Network Attack on XVG / VERGE

[CHIEF56]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

[Patelkaran.8798]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Its an explorer bug .most probably the iquidus one.
Try using other explorer.

Its normal

Also if you want answer from verge dev then check his previous post.

[Patelkaran.8798]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

It takes a while for a NOOB or schizophrenic to comprehend the information which has been provided twice. With loved one's support Schizophrenia can be handled. I wonder if your loved ones knows abt your condition. I wonder if OCminer is paying the medical bills for you. 🤔

[CHIEF56]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Its an explorer bug .most probably the iquidus one.
Try using other explorer.

Its normal

Also if you want answer from verge dev then check his previous post.

No, it's not an explorer bug.

Why should anyone accept the answer from the known liar, fraud and/or totally incompetent (not sure yet which) Verge Dev?

[Patelkaran.8798]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Its an explorer bug .most probably the iquidus one.
Try using other explorer.

Its normal

Also if you want answer from verge dev then check his previous post.

No, it's not an explorer bug.

Why should anyone accept the answer from the known liar, fraud and/or totally incompetent (not sure yet which) Verge Dev?

Like i said use prohashing explorer. Everything looks normal.

Schizophrenia in action. Dont forget to take pills lololol

[TheNewAnon135246]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Its an explorer bug .most probably the iquidus one.
Try using other explorer.

Its normal

Also if you want answer from verge dev then check his previous post.

No, it's not an explorer bug.

Why should anyone accept the answer from the known liar, fraud and/or totally incompetent (not sure yet which) Verge Dev?

It appears to be a bug: https://prohashing.com/explorer/Verge/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp/

I'd still like to hear an explanation about the most recent attack. Giving a 'moving along, nothing to see here' isn't good enough.





There was a significant drop (90-98% difference) in difficulty for both Scrypt and Lyra2RE. Justin, can you give a detailed explanation of what happened there?

[siege3967]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Its an explorer bug .most probably the iquidus one.
Try using other explorer.

Its normal

Also if you want answer from verge dev then check his previous post.

No, it's not an explorer bug.

Why should anyone accept the answer from the known liar, fraud and/or totally incompetent (not sure yet which) Verge Dev?

It appears to be a bug: https://prohashing.com/explorer/Verge/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp/

I'd still like to hear an explanation about the most recent attack. Giving a 'moving along, nothing to see here' isn't good enough.





There was a significant drop (90-98% difference) in difficulty for both Scrypt and Lyra2RE. Justin, can you give a detailed explanation of what happened there?

See, I'm not sure if it's a bug simply because prohashing might handle negative values as 0.

[siege3967]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

It takes a while for a NOOB or schizophrenic to comprehend the information which has been provided twice. With loved one's support Schizophrenia can be handled. I wonder if your loved ones knows abt your condition. I wonder if OCminer is paying the medical bills for you. 🤔

Aren't you the idiot who posted saying that antpool admin said all the transactions were theirs even though he said that before OCMiner said anything? And did you not use that as "proof" for no attack happening? 😂😂😂 Stupid Karan Patel.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Its an explorer bug .most probably the iquidus one.
Try using other explorer.

Its normal

Also if you want answer from verge dev then check his previous post.

No, it's not an explorer bug.

Why should anyone accept the answer from the known liar, fraud and/or totally incompetent (not sure yet which) Verge Dev?

It appears to be a bug: https://prohashing.com/explorer/Verge/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp/

I'd still like to hear an explanation about the most recent attack. Giving a 'moving along, nothing to see here' isn't good enough.





There was a significant drop (90-98% difference) in difficulty for both Scrypt and Lyra2RE. Justin, can you give a detailed explanation of what happened there?

See, I'm not sure if it's a big simply because prohashing might handle negative values as 0.

That's a possibility. Sent them a message to clarify.

[BitPotus]

https://www.coindesk.com/sec-charges-ico-founder-with-fraud-in-latest-lawsuit/

https://cryptoincome.me/2017/10/03/interview-with-the-verges-michael-stollaire/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg4ZiCD6WcM

"Michael Stollery, also known as Michael Stollaire, has been accused alongside his firm Titanium Blockchain Infrastructure Services with violating the SEC's antifraud and registration provisions in connection with a multi-million dollar token sale."

Anyone wanna bet SEC will be looking into XVG's affairs?

[CHIEF56]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

With regards to the negative balance.. To me, it looks like so-called "double spend", or basically printing counterfeit xvg. However, we can't really rely so much on this (OFFICIAL) block explorer since it it buggy and confirmed unreliable by Verge Dev himself a few pages back. And why bother downloading my own copy of the blockchain anyways? Not going to waste my time knowing that the chain is completely compromised and can no longer be trusted. So, we just have to dig a bit deeper and go with the information available to us.

Anyhow, if we take a sampling of transactions in address - D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp - and look up the corresponding block info, we see some odd stuff.

Beginning with block height 2205923 and moving backwards ~> 2205900 - with the initial sampling composed of all debits (spend), and then filling in the missing blocks from 2205900 - 2205923 (I don't care about transactions which are deposits/credits [only debits/spend]).
 
23 blocks all with lyra2re and scrypt algo mined in what, 5 seconds? Hmm. I thought the first fix was supposed to prevent the same algo from being used that many times in consecutive blocks.

All blocks confirmed as VALID using data from poolovich - http://poolovich.pro/explorer/XVG

( Thanks for the TIP on that explorer Justin, it works well! [And by the way, is it really so hard to get a working Iquidus Explorer up? Hundreds of coins I've looked at and xvg seems to be the only one with an issue i've found. Just wondering] ) . . .

Code:

Height  - Block hash							Time stamp				Algo used
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2205923 - 62b24a19f15716f1679bad531ef4b7c14b3d58d980c5490a0a135c2b1857a139	22nd May 2018 06:55:17  lyra2re
2205922 - f11c4423c21bbe77907937ea40d45ad69572498f2ee3d160b90c0afed2b941cf	22nd May 2018 06:55:17  lyra2re
2205921 - 65ecfa324c69ff64fcbb6657eb70e981289f0b6c922435c89db3451ab0f960e4  22nd May 2018 06:55:17  lyra2re
2205920 - 03fd6163763bd2d686d39ae6e1c3b4663cdaed206e7ea0284e847d13e6d6198c  22nd May 2018 06:55:17  lyra2re
2205919 - 7e458fc3c5706ec9ddf95cedc254d616dda49764d0c34f788d5bd92519cff0ca  22nd May 2018 06:55:16  lyra2re
2205918 - 078ddfdc760995dbb96ccce33fc37dec853f1465b95eeb87bd499048f7e6333b  22nd May 2018 06:55:16  lyra2re
2205917 - 00000000083bb16892848cc890317370315f52ed3566e364c4264be4e20f77de  22nd May 2018 06:55:16  scrypt
2205916 - 000000001a16b654d11d879efc7bb9fef711f946c69df324a1cc5a2fb240a4a6  22nd May 2018 06:55:16  scrypt
2205915 - 0000000004b4258574fefe34f3a0690ff3d8d7050fc67773ff5e349767306086  22nd May 2018 06:55:16  scrypt
2205914 - 000000000d2edddbc12448148b710c4c49794e6e74fb820069377da1633dd447  22nd May 2018 06:55:16  scrypt
2205913 - 000000001f507a7a23a1a55860c19c1226d5edba0453043db4b884cb6de5c028  22nd May 2018 06:55:15  scrypt
2205912 - 0000000049fb9df391abbd8ab42cdb77cffb7b4941bb65ed3aa5589a100e8594	22nd May 2018 06:55:15  scrypt
2205911 - 81e8d7899d20b0e1ea00a458e92bffc4716389e55cf3e4947d44eed220e873b8	22nd May 2018 06:55:15  lyra2re
2205910 - 70d35dbf84cbf4a1b3cd1ed2e12d65c4e0776c2186aa1cec956b7c7382b7b6a3	22nd May 2018 06:55:15  lyra2re
2205909 - d8017bd566bcc7359c6b995357756fccb325e1a8ef0e6153c7587c1434dc982b	22nd May 2018 06:55:15  lyra2re
2205908 - 2079b84323d04234895f4ee6da8c28518b52e97b59da4501a1195349f9f94467  22nd May 2018 06:55:15	lyra2re
2205907 - 0d14bc8be431ae5734c8cd791cf5e285338a5cec1a8bb4c9849209da5921b77b	22nd May 2018 06:55:14  lyra2re
2205906 - f6a63a5c746b91d4ab6f79aaa799c80e899d2026032c515a2cf482bd0e97b85f	22nd May 2018 06:55:14  lyra2re
2205905 - 000000001a8645b501a5ca405883c34aa0c5edebfe4343ed967d978e66a45d95  22nd May 2018 06:55:14  scrypt
2205904 - 00000000233ee973c1ee798b3ae073953bc43b0280e5eef9bfeaea15c8c44c60	22nd May 2018 06:55:14  scrypt
2205903 - 000000000326ed66ebda4c4b0c391757648ecf6668d2da9b1ab03d19ecc46bcf  22nd May 2018 06:55:14  scrypt
2205902 - 000000007f4bf76e0bc1f0ecabeac939f924dde177d01364a725778902a5565b	22nd May 2018 06:55:14  scrypt
2205901 - 0000000050dd9cea6865263e4f64f8121560476ce400803dedf2c34e68b1c97122nd May 2018 06:55:13  scrypt
2205900 - 00000000a8c64d3176a056c35722f9255e5231191d4b5dfc2f039256586d3ad8  22nd May 2018 06:55:13	scrypt

**Note** timestamp data manually set back 1 hour to match that of Verge Explorer. For whatever reason, poolovich 1 hour ahead.


Maybe I'm missing something (hey, it happens), but this does not look OK to me.

p.s. Sorry for the crappy formatting.

-C

[Slemicek]

https://www.coindesk.com/sec-charges-ico-founder-with-fraud-in-latest-lawsuit/

https://cryptoincome.me/2017/10/03/interview-with-the-verges-michael-stollaire/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg4ZiCD6WcM

"Michael Stollery, also known as Michael Stollaire, has been accused alongside his firm Titanium Blockchain Infrastructure Services with violating the SEC's antifraud and registration provisions in connection with a multi-million dollar token sale."

Anyone wanna bet SEC will be looking into XVG's affairs?

As I said earlier, if Michael starts talking about his work in xvg team, things can get intesresting. On the other hand, eventhough they surely have his whole communication (telegram etc..), SEC will investigate just TBIS in this case.

[trgnn]

it's amusing to me that you people act like this matters in the long run 'at all'..... way to go short term vision... lol cause every other coin on earth hasn't had an issue from time to time lololololol

No other coin son earth were hacked several times through the exact same exploit that was supposingly fixed. As an investors, I wouldn't put a cent into a system which isn't proven secure.

[Patelkaran.8798]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

It takes a while for a NOOB or schizophrenic to comprehend the information which has been provided twice. With loved one's support Schizophrenia can be handled. I wonder if your loved ones knows abt your condition. I wonder if OCminer is paying the medical bills for you. 🤔

Aren't you the idiot who posted saying that antpool admin said all the transactions were theirs even though he said that before OCMiner said anything? And did you not use that as "proof" for no attack happening? 😂😂😂 Stupid Karan Patel.

Schizophrenic Stroke in Action again ? 😂

Anyways it seems spoonfeeding you info wont help.
Your Master OCMiner's tone wasnt like "Attack in progress", he was like attack was suceesfull when it wasnt.
I and many other have reason to believe that this recent attacks have something to do with OCMiner due to multiple reasons
1. as his ego was hurt after getting banned in our telegram chat.
2. Due to personal differences with Verge dev or sponsored FUD
And so on..

But dont wry, What Goes around always Comes Around.
Just like it did with Monero, after their dev fudded abt Verge,  their blockchain got hacked as well.
If you know what i mean.

Karma will find its way to Shady OCMINER as well

[siege3967]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

It takes a while for a NOOB or schizophrenic to comprehend the information which has been provided twice. With loved one's support Schizophrenia can be handled. I wonder if your loved ones knows abt your condition. I wonder if OCminer is paying the medical bills for you. 🤔

Aren't you the idiot who posted saying that antpool admin said all the transactions were theirs even though he said that before OCMiner said anything? And did you not use that as "proof" for no attack happening? 😂😂😂 Stupid Karan Patel.

Schizophrenic Stroke in Action again ? 😂

Anyways it seems spoonfeeding you info wont help.
Your Master OCMiner's tone wasnt like "Attack in progress", he was like attack was suceesfull when it wasnt.
I and many other have reason to believe that this recent attacks have something to do with OCMiner due to multiple reasons
1. as his ego was hurt after getting banned in our telegram chat.
2. Due to personal differences with Verge dev or sponsored FUD
And so on..

But dont wry, What Goes around always Comes Around.
Just like it did with Monero, after their dev fudded abt Verge,  their blockchain got hacked as well.
If you know what i mean.

Karma will find its way to Shady OCMINER as well

OCMiner posted after Antpool miner posted his post. Your comprehension skills are shit, that's why you're into Verge.

[Patelkaran.8798]

it's amusing to me that you people act like this matters in the long run 'at all'..... way to go short term vision... lol cause every other coin on earth hasn't had an issue from time to time lololololol

No other coin son earth were hacked several times through the exact same exploit that was supposingly fixed. As an investors, I wouldn't put a cent into a system which isn't proven secure.

Several times doesnt means twice btw. Its more than twice. Verge's blockchain has been exploted twice. And yes i mean exploit ! I wonder where were ya'all when bitcoin had many bugs in its early days and when it was hacked, exploited or whatever you wanna call. Verge is basing codebase to bitcoin 0.16
Anyways its your opinion, your money. I wish you good luck with your future choices

[Patelkaran.8798]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

It takes a while for a NOOB or schizophrenic to comprehend the information which has been provided twice. With loved one's support Schizophrenia can be handled. I wonder if your loved ones knows abt your condition. I wonder if OCminer is paying the medical bills for you. 🤔

Aren't you the idiot who posted saying that antpool admin said all the transactions were theirs even though he said that before OCMiner said anything? And did you not use that as "proof" for no attack happening? 😂😂😂 Stupid Karan Patel.

Schizophrenic Stroke in Action again ? 😂

Anyways it seems spoonfeeding you info wont help.
Your Master OCMiner's tone wasnt like "Attack in progress", he was like attack was suceesfull when it wasnt.
I and many other have reason to believe that this recent attacks have something to do with OCMiner due to multiple reasons
1. as his ego was hurt after getting banned in our telegram chat.
2. Due to personal differences with Verge dev or sponsored FUD
And so on..

But dont wry, What Goes around always Comes Around.
Just like it did with Monero, after their dev fudded abt Verge,  their blockchain got hacked as well.
If you know what i mean.

Karma will find its way to Shady OCMINER as well

OCMiner posted after Antpool miner posted his post. Your comprehension and skills are shit, that's why you're into Verge.

Again. Keep talking shit. This entire shit started by OCMiner. Like i said its hard for you to accept that your Master's Alleged Attack was unsuccesfull. Keep brabbing shit and look stupid.

[siege3967]

it's amusing to me that you people act like this matters in the long run 'at all'..... way to go short term vision... lol cause every other coin on earth hasn't had an issue from time to time lololololol

No other coin son earth were hacked several times through the exact same exploit that was supposingly fixed. As an investors, I wouldn't put a cent into a system which isn't proven secure.

Several times doesnt means twice btw. Its more than twice. Verge's blockchain has been exploted twice. And yes i mean exploit ! I wonder where were ya'all when bitcoin had many bugs in its early days and when it was hacked, exploited or whatever you wanna call. Verge is basing codebase to bitcoin 0.16
Anyways its your opinion, your money. I wish you good luck with your future choices

Bitcoin was never hacked twice in 2 months with the same exploit and their devs never ignored people when people pointed out that a fix wasn't enough. Anyway, Verge is going to copy the rebasing from Shield GitHub and we'll all have proof of this because of the magic that is timestamps. And then we'll show you how the verge dev copied the rebasing effort from Shield GitHub. And you'll call it FUD cause your comprehension skills are 0.

[siege3967]

Would any verge supporter like to explain this? Negative balance: https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

has explaination on this been told?

No they simply can't explain it because they don't understand what's happening.

Crickets.

That's OK tho. While I shouldn't need to, I'll break it down a little bit for them.

Notice anything suspicious about the transactions associated with that address?

No one? Little drummer dick drummerjdb666, you don't want to take a guess?

Will check back after dinner time, but it's ugly

It takes a while for a NOOB or schizophrenic to comprehend the information which has been provided twice. With loved one's support Schizophrenia can be handled. I wonder if your loved ones knows abt your condition. I wonder if OCminer is paying the medical bills for you. 🤔

Aren't you the idiot who posted saying that antpool admin said all the transactions were theirs even though he said that before OCMiner said anything? And did you not use that as "proof" for no attack happening? 😂😂😂 Stupid Karan Patel.

Schizophrenic Stroke in Action again ? 😂

Anyways it seems spoonfeeding you info wont help.
Your Master OCMiner's tone wasnt like "Attack in progress", he was like attack was suceesfull when it wasnt.
I and many other have reason to believe that this recent attacks have something to do with OCMiner due to multiple reasons
1. as his ego was hurt after getting banned in our telegram chat.
2. Due to personal differences with Verge dev or sponsored FUD
And so on..

But dont wry, What Goes around always Comes Around.
Just like it did with Monero, after their dev fudded abt Verge,  their blockchain got hacked as well.
If you know what i mean.

Karma will find its way to Shady OCMINER as well

OCMiner posted after Antpool miner posted his post. Your comprehension and skills are shit, that's why you're into Verge.

Again. Keep talking shit. This entire shit started by OCMiner. Like i said its hard for you to accept that your Master's Alleged Attack was unsuccesfull. Keep brabbing shit and look stupid.

Why did you think the Antpool's post is proof? You clearly have no understandimg of blockchain. You're probably one of the Verge marketing admins. You idiots have 0 knowledge of the tech.

[mr.Belyavski]

Good afternoon! How can I get more information as an investor, are the project developers reliable and trustworthy?