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June 02, 2018, 05:25:26 AM
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what happened to the project?! its now two days that the 307000 block explored and there is any news about how to get this coin with private keys.... what should we do?? another scam coin?!....


you can buy now here about 1 sat https://altex.exchange/markets&pair=BTC_ETNX

and electronero now trade on tradeogre!!!!! SOON PUMP!!!

https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-ETNX
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June 02, 2018, 11:23:52 AM
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what happened to the project?! its now two days that the 307000 block explored and there is any news about how to get this coin with private keys.... what should we do?? another scam coin?!....


you can buy now here about 1 sat https://altex.exchange/markets&pair=BTC_ETNX

and electronero now trade on tradeogre!!!!! SOON PUMP!!!

https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-ETNX

.....100% increasing coming soon!!!.....from 1 satoshi to 2 satoshi any day now!

Glad to see people saw through the BS with this pump and dump. I tip my hat to you all.
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June 02, 2018, 02:43:16 PM
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How is it possible to see over 300 million coins for sale on Altex and 120 million on Tradeorge, while there are only like 80 million mined? Just after launch Altex was live with trading and got 150 million for sale in matter of two hours. Is somebody selling premined coins? Or did people figured out how to claim ETNX from ETN wallet?
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June 02, 2018, 03:16:24 PM
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🔥 🔥 🔥  We offer you the opportunity to make AirDrop 7000 our customer and also add a token to our trading system  🔥 🔥 🔥

🔥 🔥http://Ecex.Exchange 🚀🔥

info@ecex.exchange

Electronero is a crypto coin, which uses Cryptonight fork algorithm, not a token.
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June 02, 2018, 04:53:36 PM
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I am waiting for Windows GUI wallet, because I am not familiar with CLI (command lines required).
Hope that the GUI version will be released shortly.
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June 02, 2018, 05:36:57 PM
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I am waiting for Windows GUI wallet, because I am not familiar with CLI (command lines required).
Hope that the GUI version will be released shortly.

Just use the paper wallet.
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June 02, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
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This week Electronero core will announce supporting exchanges and trading pairs!

how will you prevent Electroneum from depressing prices of ETNX for years to come when they will control close to 7 billion coins outright with a 1:1 swap? they could sell 1 million coins a day for 20 years, how will you create enough demand to sustain that, I just don't see how this coin doesn't get destroyed quickly with that looming over its head...

(quoting one of the "selling points" of this coin in the first posting of this thread)

"""another  7  billion  is  apparently  being  held  up  to  feed  the  mobile  miner.  These  extreme  figures  represent  a  big  risk  for  users  due  to  a  large  amount  of  capital  being  controlled  by  the  ETN  team"""

P.S. side note, you doubled this very problem setting some aside YOU control for the mobile miner, plus and almost equal amount set aside for you, so you tripled the problem you use as a selling point why we should use this coin.

Different token supply so we don't agree the numbers are simply not the same at ETN they conquer 56% of the token supply at ETNX we have 6% of the total token supply. Which do you choose ?

you once again are dodging the question...

with Electroneum having 7 billion ETNX under its control, how will you stop Electroneum from selling 1 million coins a day and depressing prices of ETNX for the next 20 years? thats how long it could take to sell through 7 billion...

they have no reason to keep your copy coin, so why wouldn't they sell a constant stream of them in order to use that money to fund their own coin, you keep dodging how you plan to deal with this very big reality for investors...


In the grand scale you are still not taking into consideration the new ETNX token supply of 210,000,000,000

once again you dodged the point I made... your attempt to diminish my statement as "its such a small amount of the total supply"

 

Somehow you think repeating yourself is going to turn over a different answer.
Thanks for the bump on the thread.
Another one of you who signed up just to post FUD here. Can everyone please be realistic and remain calm. Everything is going great. So far so good. This is a Bitcoin Talk announcement. Not an interrogation. Join Electronero on telegram https://t.me/electronero

 If you have doubts you can sit this one out from here on forward. No one is stopping you. Otherwise public announcements are made on Electronero website quite often here https://electronero.com/blog

Now I'm not going to repeat myself for you. Have a nice day! Take care! Good bye



you're not going to repeat yourself not answering the question? lets make it super basic...

there are what roughly 15 billion etnx in circulation, etn owns roughly 7 billion, you roughly 7 billion, and everyone else has whatever is left, thats a fair enough estimate... so the entire problem you said about someone having to much control and quantity, is now two-fold, you and etn now have too much and everyone else has too little...

so how could you now with a straight face tell investors this is no big deal, when the problem has not gone away, it was just amplified and a new secondary winner was picked, you, to hold so many coins... but you can't stop etn from selling their 7 billion now, and they can keep doing that for DECADES at 1 million coins a day sold...

but then again, at the current value of 0.00000001 I don't see a lot of people in a rush to buy, so how is this not a gigantic issue when electroneum hasn't even begun selling off their coins which they have no reason to hold... a 7 billion coin mistake looming over this coin isn't going to disappear overnight, how is that not a huge problem?
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June 02, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
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EXCHANGE FOR ETNX

(with my referral link)

https://altex.exchange/register&ref=7753





use a secondary email if you register on this exchange.  they appear to sell info to advertisers.
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June 03, 2018, 09:07:08 AM
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I am waiting for Windows GUI wallet, because I am not familiar with CLI (command lines required).
Hope that the GUI version will be released shortly.

wheres the cli?
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https://image.ibb.co/jEZCZS/etnx_launch_testnet.png
A state of the art platform with strong community support.
Reinventing anonymous cryptocurrency by combining the best features of leading CryptoNote coins into a new blockchain.

PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE RUMORS !!! OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE IS ELECTRONERO.ORG
ELECTRONERO (ETNX) IS NOT AN ETHER TOKEN. BEWARE OF ETHERDELTA!
The ETNX community operates ELECTRONERO.ORG ELECTRONERO.NET ELECTRONERO.COM ELECTRONERO.INFO

Remember to be safe and come ask us anything you like on Telegram. ETNX is a Hard Fork of Electroneum and ETNX is a CryptoNote based on XMR Lithium Luna v0.12 with many improvements from inspiration from Sumokoin and the ideas and concerns raised about by the community.



Contact lead technical advisor and ETNX blockchain developer Mark Evans to become a part of the team.

Interchained on Discord and Telegram.
Mark is a certified full stack web developer and niche marketer. Mark has launched many brands in the past and will use his experience to act as a catalyst for this project.
" We are bringing in official pool operators and miners now in preparation for the upcoming hard fork. "

Find Mark on Telegram or Discord: @Interchained

INTRODUCTION
Electronero  (ETNX)



Electronero is  a  fork  from  Electroneum  (ETN)  made  by  the  community,  for  the  community beginning building from Monero source v0.12.0 Lithium Luna, one of the most respectable cryptocurrency well-known for security, privacy, untraceability and active development. Starting as an educational project, we found that it would be great to create a new coin with high level of privacy by (1) moving forward right away to Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT), (2) setting minimum transaction mixins to 12 that would make it high resistance to blockchain analysis attacks..  We found that some of the features of Sumokoin were also interesting to us such as the "bitcoin-like" Camel emission, rather than a traditional Elliptical emission curve. So we implemented that. We also adapted the LWMA as we were advised by mathematician and blockchain theorist Zawy has researched this new difficulty algorithm extensively. Public Testnet launch is debuted at block height 280,000. The hard fork  will occur at block height  307,000  and  all  owners  of  Electroneum  will  be  de  facto  owners  of  Electronero.  The  codebase  for  this  project  is  the  Monero Lithium Luna v0.12 release  core  code  to  which  a  lot  of  modifications  are  being  made  in  order  to  provide  a  better,  more  reliable  platform  to  current, past Electroneum and future Electronero  users. Cryptocurrencies  have  attracted  substantial  attention  over  the  past  few  years  bringing  millions  of  new  users  into  the  market  dramatically  increasing  demand,  market  value,  and  daily  activity.  With  such  an  increased  demand  comes  a  big  responsibility  on  cryptocurrency  developers  to  ensure  they  are  delivering  the  most  stable  platform  to  their  users  allowing  them  complete  freedom  of  access  to  their  funds.  Read the whitepaper  where some community members have  detailed  the  basis  for  our  fork,  the  ethical  standards  that  are  to  be  upheld  in  the  fork’s  environment  as  well  as  technical  details,  our  roadmap  and  plans  for  the  future  of  Electronero.

https://image.ibb.co/cROT8n/etnx_launch_info.png

BASIS  FOR THE HARD  FORK  :

The  idea  of  creating  a  fork  from  Electroneum  emerged  from  the  ETN  community  as  there  have  been  growing  concerns  of  the  lack  of  support  from  the  developers,  issues  regarding  deposits  and  transfers,  the  flooding  of  new  CryptoNight  ASIC  miners  on  the  market.  The  growing  cryptocurrency  market  and  the  millions  of  users  therefore  requires  a  lot  more  technical  support  than  currently  provided  which  explains  the  basis  for  this  project;  providing  a  state  of  the  art  platform  for  ETN  users  by  creating  a  fork  that  would  truly  answer  the  needs  of  the  community.

Read the White Paper

•Untraceability:  for  each  incoming  transaction  all  possible  senders  are  equiprobable.
•Unlinkability:  for  any  two  outgoing  transactions  it  is  impossible  to  prove  they  were  sent  to  the  same  person. 
https://image.ibb.co/nMJvon/etnx_comparison.png

ABOUT  ELECTRONERO 
ELECTRONEUM  PREMINE  AND  CONFLICT 

The  main  ETN  chain  has  started  with  a  12,6  Billion  ETN  -  84%  of  circulating  supply  (14  Billions)  and  56%  of  total  supply  (21  Billion),  of  which  4  billion  were  sold  in  an  ICO  and  an  another  7  (33%)  billion  is  apparently  being  held  up  to  feed  the  mobile  miner.  These  extreme  figures  represent  a  big  risk  for  users  due  to  a  large  amount  of  capital  being  controlled  by  the  ETN  team  and  as  all  CryptoNote  coins  being  completely  anonymous,  there  is  no  way  to  verify  that  this  capital  is  being  used  in  the  way  that  it  is  presented.  Cryptocurrencies  in  general  being  unregulated,  ETN  thereby  has  no  fiduciary  responsibility  to  its  users  and  in  no  circumstances  are  compelled  to  use  these  funds  in  the  way  the  are  advertising  it. SOLUTION  FOR  A  FAIR  ENVIRONMENT:To  resolve  this  obvious  conflict,  we  have  decided  to  increase  the  total  supply  for  ETNX  to  210  billion  units.  Therefore  providing  a  fair  platform  and  increasing  mining  rewards  in  order  to  give  back  to  the  community.  Alongside,  we  have  also  determined  necessary  to  create  an  “instamine”  of  5%  that  is  detailed  below  : 
•3%  for  the  mobile  miner
•2%  for  developers  to  leverage  a  potential  “dump”  from  centralized  capital  from  ETN.

https://image.ibb.co/gVJ7Tn/mobile_miner.png

Supply & Emission


Total supply: 210,000,000,000 token supply after the hard fork.



Coin symbol:
ETNX

Coin units:


1 eCent = 0.01 ETNX (10-2 - the smallest coin unit)
1 Electronero= 1 ETNX


Hash algorithm: CryptoNight_xmr (v7, cn_variant 1)


Block time: 120 seconds


Emission scheme:
Electronero's block reward changes every 6-months following a "Camel" distribution (inspired by real-world mining production like of crude oil, coal etc. that is often slow at first, accelerated in the next few years before declined and depleted). However, the emission path of Electronero is generally not far apart from that of Sumokoin.


Features


Secure and private
Designed for mass adoption
User-friendly
Professional Network
No more expensive fees


MOBILE WALLET & MOBILE MINER EXPERIENCE
With Electronero you can manage your ETNX anywhere.
Anyone with a smartphone and an internet connection can receive ETNX and mine using ETNX mobile miner experience.

The ETNX mobile wallet & mobile miner experience will come first for Android and iOS in the near future.

CAMEL EMISSIONS
With ETNX miners can count on the block reward.

TRUE FUNGIBILITY

Electronero is one of a few rare cryptocurrencies with true fungibility - the feature makes digital currency act like physical cash i.e. no other people can find where the money comes from and how many have been transferred.

GREAT PRIVACY

Electronero is created with high level of privacy in mind, setting Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize of 12(+1) to conceal sources/amounts transferred and make it high resistance to blockchain-analysis attacks

STRONG SECURITY
Electronero utilizes the power of a distributed peer-to-peer consensus network, every transaction is cryptographically secured. Individual accounts have a 26 word mnemonic seed displayed when created, which can be written down to back up the account and account files are encrypted with a passphrase to ensure they are worthless if stolen.


https://image.ibb.co/etpeES/etnx_roadmap.png
https://image.ibb.co/infDgx/etnx_split.png

https://image.ibb.co/eiZxTn/etnx_hard_fork.png

Additional Specifications

[1] CPU + GPU mining (about 1:1 performance for now). Memory-bound by design using AES encryption and several SHA-3 candidates.
[2] Initial number of atomic units is M = 264 - 1. However, once the block reward reaches 0.3 ETNX per minute (sometime in 2030) that is treated as the minimum subsidy, which means that Electronero's total emission will forever increase by ~157680 ETNX annually.
[3] Uses a recurrence relation. Block reward = (M - A) * 2-20 * 10-12, where A = current circulation.


FAQ
For a longer FAQ, check Community FAQ

Electronero is Based on CryptoNote Technology
What is CryptoNote?
CryptoNote is the technology that allows creation of privacy-centric cryptocurrencies. You can visit their website at cryptonote.org. The level of anonymity provided by CryptoNote isn't possible with Bitcoin code base by design. Bytecoin (BCN) was the CryptoNote reference implementation, and Monero (XMR) based their sources on BCN. Electronero (ETNX) is based on XMR's code.

Two of the main features of CryptoNote are ring signatures that mask sender identities by mixing and one-time keys that make transactions unlinkable. Their combined effect gives a high degree of anonymity without any extra effort on the part of the user.

Unlike Bitcoin, your funds are not held in the address you give out to others. Instead, every time you receive a payment it goes to an unlinkable address generated with random numbers. When you decide to spend the funds in that one-time address, the amount will be broken down and the components will be indistinguishable from identical outputs in the blockchain.

For example if 556.44 ETNX are sent, the protocol will break it down into 500 + 50 + 6 + 0.4 + 0.04 and a ring signature will be performed with other 500's, 50's, 6's, 0.4's, and 0.04's in the blockchain. Unlike the "CoinJoin" mixing method, CryptoNote mixes outputs not transactions. This means no other senders need to be participating with you at the same time or with the same amounts. Any arbitrary amount sent at any time can always be rendered fundamentally indistinguishable (a mathematical proof is given in the white paper).

The degree of anonymity is also a choice rather than decided by the protocol: do you want to be hidden as one among five or one among fifty? The size of the signature grows linearly as O(n+1) with the ambiguity so greater anonymity is paid for with higher fees to miners.

Ring signatures are explained below. Reproduced from CryptoNote:

A normal signature looks like this. There's only one participant, which allows one-to-one mapping.

http://image.ibb.co/hdZrGn/cn01.png

A ring signature obscures identities because it only proves that a signer belongs to a group.

http://image.ibb.co/bWmGhS/cn02.png

This allows a high level of anonymity in cryptocurrency transactions. You can think of it as decentralized and trustless mixing.

http://image.ibb.co/g9KDU7/cn03.png

How does this compare to other anonymous solutions?
Ring signatures originate from the work of Rivest et al. in 2001 and the implementation in CryptoNote relies in particular on Fujisaki and Suzuki's work on traceable ring signatures. There are two other anonymity implementations currently available or in development. One is ZeroCoin/ZeroCash's use of zero-knowledge proofs. The others are based on gmaxwell's CoinJoin idea (such as mixing services for Bitcoin or the altcoin Darkcoin).

1. Comparison with ZeroCoin and ZKP-based approaches:
You can read about ZeroCoin and zero-knowledge proofs (ZKP) here. The ZK environment allows an anonymity set that includes everyone in the network because the validity of an output can be proven without knowing the corresponding public key until it is spent. The largest risk is that this is recent research-level cryptography that hasn't been subjected to years of cryptanalysis, so exploits may emerge down the road. Ring signatures are much simpler and more mature, with many peer-reviewed papers published over more than a decade.

Other issues with ZKP include the RSA private key used to initiate the accumulator, which must be trusted to be destroyed by the generating party. It also obscures the entire economy, not just sender/receiver identities. If the ZK system is compromised, then an attacker can continuously spend coins that don't exist using false proofs. This damage is hidden from everybody due to total blinding and consequently at any given time it's not possible to know if the network has already been compromised. There is a tradeoff between these inherent risks and the maximal anonymity set provided by ZKP. CryptoNote aims for a different balance through the dual layers of privacy provided by one-time keys and ring signatures.

2. Comparison with CoinJoin-based approaches:
XMR is more qualitatively similar to mixing implementations like CoinJoin. The differences arise in the departure from the Bitcoin protocol, which allows ETNX to use new cryptography to provide decentralized and trustless mixing of superior quality. The critical problem with mixing services is the need to trust the operators. As an example, blockchain.info's mixer gives the following disclaimer: "However if the server was compromised or under subpoena it could be force to keep logs. If this were to happen although you haven't gained any privacy you haven't lost any either."

The CoinJoin-inspired Darkcoin performs mixing with selected "masternodes" since it still uses ordinary signatures that can be mapped one-to-one. The motivation is that a randomly selected node is less likely than a single service to exhibit bad faith (such as keeping logs) . In practice, a few VPS companies host the vast majority of nodes and this approach relies on the integrity and good behavior of these nodes. ETNX's more fundamental cryptographic approach doesn't have these vulnerabilities and the quality of anonymity is much higher.

ETNX's ring signatures are also far more secure and convenient than CoinJoin because they mix outputs not transactions. This means a transaction doesn't involve waiting around for other senders to mix with. Nor is a user restricted to mixing only if others are sending the same amount. Arbitrary amounts can be sent at any time without anyone else's participation. This feature makes a timing analysis of the blockchain useless.

Overview of a transaction
Bob decides to spend an output, which was sent to the one-time public key. He needs Extra (1), TxOutNumber (2), and his Account private key (3) to recover his one-time private key (4).

When sending a transaction to Carol, Bob generates its Extra value by random (5). He uses Extra (6), TxOutNumber (7) and Carol's Account public key (Cool to get her Output public key (9).

In the input Bob hides the link to his output among the foreign keys (10). To prevent double-spending he also packs the Key image, derived from his One-time private key (11).

Finally, Bob signs the transaction, using his One-time private key (12), all the public keys (13) and Key Image (14). He appends the resulting Ring Signature to the end of the transaction (15).

http://image.ibb.co/krhdwn/cryptonote_transaction.png


Unsecured electronero staff, I'm really angry.
I asked for help on an error that I found with my wallet but what did the staff ?? banned me from the più reported channel.
Now I am banned by telegram until 11 June

My nick telegram: @NicolasHD 
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June 04, 2018, 12:35:07 PM
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when will be the release of the official win gui wallet?
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Official github is https://github.com/electronero/electronero/releases right?
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June 04, 2018, 02:23:02 PM
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I understand that the exchange Cryptopia not officially supported fork and is not accrued coin holders? There is no sense in waiting,this fact can not be changed? If so, very far away. Did any of the founders of the coin contact cryptopia?
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June 04, 2018, 03:11:49 PM
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and electronero now trade on tradeogre!!!!! SOON PUMP!!!

https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-ETNX

Electronero is in maintenance mode all day today on Tradeogre.
What happens? Coin abandoned? So soon?Smiley
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So are you going to mention the 51% attack on your network today?

What confuses me...is why anyone would want to bother when the coins stuck at 1 satoshi...physically cant get any lower...and no-one is buying anyway.
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suffering from wallet scarcity......
Need paper wallet or WIN GUI ASAP.
Please help.
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June 05, 2018, 08:18:19 AM
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and electronero now trade on tradeogre!!!!! SOON PUMP!!!

https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-ETNX

Electronero is in maintenance mode all day today on Tradeogre.
What happens? Coin abandoned? So soon?Smiley
Stop kidding and spreading FUDs, dude.
If you want to get updated news on Electronero project, please join telegram channel (link in the OP) to get them.

So do you know something about windows gui wallet? I don`t really use telegram, updates in this thread would be nice.
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So are you going to mention the 51% attack on your network today?

What confuses me...is why anyone would want to bother when the coins stuck at 1 satoshi...physically cant get any lower...and no-one is buying anyway.

Actually it is a lot lower than that. You can buy it with LTC on altex and it is currently at .00000002 LTC.
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So are you going to mention the 51% attack on your network today?

What confuses me...is why anyone would want to bother when the coins stuck at 1 satoshi...physically cant get any lower...and no-one is buying anyway.

Actually it is a lot lower than that. You can buy it with LTC on altex and it is currently at .00000002 LTC.

lol. I stand corrected.
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New ETNX Pool
Fee 0.1
+Russian Based location
https://etnx.crypto-pool.pro/#
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