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September 06, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
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Bitcoin Investment Trust just put out an update regarding the potential Bitcoin Cash distribution: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitcoin-investment-trust-provides-update-on-possible-bitcoin-cash-distribution-300515060.html
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September 06, 2017, 11:21:05 PM
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Bitcoin Investment Trust just put out an update regarding the potential Bitcoin Cash distribution: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitcoin-investment-trust-provides-update-on-possible-bitcoin-cash-distribution-300515060.html

This is a crap update on their part. XBTProvider/CoinXBT came right out and said that if they did anything regarding Bitcoin Cash, it would be based on the fork date:

https://xbtprovider.com/news/post/xbt-provider-ab-update-regarding-recent-bitcoin-fork

So is GBTC going to be using the same fork day or not? Or are they just going to be picking a random Wednesday in the future and will spring it on everyone with another vague press release?
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September 15, 2017, 03:00:18 AM
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-etf-has-new-hope-of-success-bloomberg-analyst



Also, looks like we touched $778 today, new ATH. Incredible.

I keep thinking that some whale is going to take their GBTC profits any day now... Tongue

I sure hope so... I never got back on the train after I sold at $540.  Oh well, straight BTC has done well for me.  It just would have been nice to collect some more tax-sheltered gains in my Roth IRA.

Same.

The window might be opening again soon.  Down to $520 today.

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September 15, 2017, 04:42:02 AM
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In tomorrow - should be the easiest double ever...?
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September 15, 2017, 12:19:37 PM
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In tomorrow - should be the easiest double ever...?

I agree with you, now is the time to buy as BTC will likely bounce over the weekend when GBTC is not trading, so Friday is the day to get in.
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September 15, 2017, 05:20:05 PM
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Got in at 517 yesterday, looking good so far. I was worried BTC was really going to plunge today taking GBTC with it, but we may have hit the bottom
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September 15, 2017, 05:28:54 PM
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GBTC is an ureg securities only for accredited investor is that what you are talking about. If so it trades at 100% premium to cash bitcoin for 2 simple reasons convenience and insurance. it shows where bitcoin would trade if this ecosystem had something even close to that. not lost wallets, exchange difficulst,scams, no insurance of any kind.
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September 15, 2017, 07:06:12 PM
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GBTC is an ureg securities only for accredited investor is that what you are talking about. If so it trades at 100% premium to cash bitcoin for 2 simple reasons convenience and insurance. it shows where bitcoin would trade if this ecosystem had something even close to that. not lost wallets, exchange difficulst,scams, no insurance of any kind.

Yes, I am talking about GBTC, but you don't need to be an accredited investor to buy it. Right, it trades at a premium because it is the only game in town now for getting into bitcoin for your typical stock holder (and in your IRA). For me I hold it in my IRA. Outside my IRA I have Bitcoin plus about 20 alt coins.
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October 04, 2017, 12:08:48 PM
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Now that they've withdrawn the ETF application, can we get some news on when and how we will receive our BCH distributions? Tongue
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October 05, 2017, 02:43:33 PM
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Now that they've withdrawn the ETF application, can we get some news on when and how we will receive our BCH distributions? Tongue

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October 09, 2017, 06:04:33 PM
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Now that they've withdrawn the ETF application, can we get some news on when and how we will receive our BCH distributions? Tongue

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Maybe. I thought the BCH exposure in GBTC was only for those who held it *before* the fork, but right now, at least, GBTC *is* moving sideways while BTC is going up. I forget when that happened last.
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October 09, 2017, 06:11:48 PM
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I don't really get why they're mentioning BCH at all.

The people who have money in GBTC do not have money in Bitcoin therefore they have no BCH either. It's Grayscale's toy to do whatever they want with. GBTC holders are nobodies when it comes to this.
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October 09, 2017, 07:18:10 PM
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I don't really get why they're mentioning BCH at all.

The people who have money in GBTC do not have money in Bitcoin therefore they have no BCH either. It's Grayscale's toy to do whatever they want with. GBTC holders are nobodies when it comes to this.

Are you saying that the BTC that's backing up the GBTC shares is *not* actually there? That's quite a claim.
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October 09, 2017, 07:30:05 PM
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Are you saying that the BTC that's backing up the GBTC shares is *not* actually there? That's quite a claim.

Nope. I'm saying people buying GBTC shares are buying GBTC shares, not Bitcoin.

The price might be partially derived from their Bitcoin holdings, but a big chunk of it is coming from its own peculiar demands because of its nature.

As its customers are not buying BTC then they have nothing to do with BCH either.
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October 09, 2017, 08:45:32 PM
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Are you saying that the BTC that's backing up the GBTC shares is *not* actually there? That's quite a claim.

Nope. I'm saying people buying GBTC shares are buying GBTC shares, not Bitcoin.

The price might be partially derived from their Bitcoin holdings, but a big chunk of it is coming from its own peculiar demands because of its nature.

As its customers are not buying BTC then they have nothing to do with BCH either.

I am pretty sure I read that GBTC will be distributing the BCH value to GBTC holders, that were holding at the time of the split, at some point in the future.
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October 09, 2017, 08:54:51 PM
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Are you saying that the BTC that's backing up the GBTC shares is *not* actually there? That's quite a claim.

Nope. I'm saying people buying GBTC shares are buying GBTC shares, not Bitcoin.

The price might be partially derived from their Bitcoin holdings, but a big chunk of it is coming from its own peculiar demands because of its nature.

As its customers are not buying BTC then they have nothing to do with BCH either.

I am pretty sure I read that GBTC will be distributing the BCH value to GBTC holders, that were holding at the time of the split, at some point in the future.


Yep: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-investments-llc-statement-regarding-203000163.html
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October 09, 2017, 11:04:55 PM
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They're creating another entity to hold the BCC:
https://news.bitcoin.com/grayscales-trust-contemplates-creating-another-entity-for-bitcoin-cash/

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October 09, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
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October 10, 2017, 01:05:28 AM
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Right, I think I posted the link that that references last month, but nothing has been made official: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitcoin-investment-trust-provides-update-on-possible-bitcoin-cash-distribution-300515060.html
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October 12, 2017, 10:41:47 PM
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The Bitcoin Investment Trust looks like they're going to have shareholders vote in less than two weeks to amend the trust to do some relevant things: https://grayscale.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/BIT-Consent-Request-October-17-FINAL.pdf

The meeting date is October 24, 2017.
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