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October 20, 2011, 02:31:13 AM
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And don't trust HiddenWiki for links! Full of phishing sites.  Lips sealed
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October 20, 2011, 03:13:08 AM
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I believe you still have to trust some one, but the amount can depend on how much you trust them. If you just trust them a little, then trust them ONE bitcoin.
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October 20, 2011, 11:15:34 AM
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You must always trust someone to some level.  Its all about risk.  Only trust them with as much risk as you are willing to take.
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October 20, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
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You must always trust someone to some level.  Its all about risk.  Only trust them with as much risk as you are willing to take.

Yes, but don't be too angstly, otherwise you'll accomplish nothing.

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October 20, 2011, 09:37:06 PM
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And don't trust HiddenWiki for links! Full of phishing sites.  Lips sealed

Monitor the links for changes, its sad sometimes how quickly a sites link can change within a day.
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October 21, 2011, 12:29:05 AM
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Maybe trust but verify!?
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October 21, 2011, 03:38:44 PM
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As a newbie, the fact that I am taking the time to read this article and respond to it is definitely proof-of-work.
So proof-of-work is the mechanism used to filter out noise on the forum I guess.
I wish the proof-of-work could be derivative of BTC or another proof-of-work network, however, and not need to be repeated every time you wish to join a forum? (see my other post today)

Luckily the trust-no-one argument is an interesting, so at least the work is pleasurable..

Consider the list...

""Do you know their full name?
Do you know where they are located?
Have they demonstrated trustworthiness in the past?
Are they asking you to trust them? (red flag)
Do they have insurance?""

is this not a list of symptoms of an anonymous culture (akin to being a the airport in the RW?)

Perhaps a fully fledged peer-to-peer trust network with persistent identity could be used to establish trust between two nodes without them having access to all the above information about someone?

If we as a digital culture adopt the above check-list will we not have the opposite of a a free society, but instead a peer-to-peer surveillance society?

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October 22, 2011, 03:43:31 AM
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we need a better way to source check, like a bitcoinlist...
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October 22, 2011, 06:43:44 PM
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we need a better way to source check, like a bitcoinlist...

a so-called "independent rating agency"? ^^

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October 22, 2011, 07:00:09 PM
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I only read the posts on the first page.  I don't agree with the "Trust no one" approach.  But perhaps treating your bitcoin like money is enough said.  Don't go dump all your bitcoin in a site just because they say they're honest and legit.  Check them out, do some research.  Find out what other people are saying about that site.  Etc. 

Like it was said earlier, for this market to grow and be successful you have to trust someone.  But that's not to say there aren't bad people out their trying to steal your bitcoins, so just be aware of what you're doing. 
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October 25, 2011, 01:23:55 AM
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You can trust me.  Cool
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October 25, 2011, 02:36:05 AM
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If you say you can be you most certainly can not  Roll Eyes
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October 25, 2011, 06:57:58 AM
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Who would thrust a talking sock?  Grin

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October 25, 2011, 10:42:53 PM
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Who would thrust a talking sock?  Grin


Depends. Is it an alpaca sock?

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October 26, 2011, 04:03:26 PM
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If you say you can be you most certainly can not  Roll Eyes
We need a </sarcasm> tag. :p

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October 26, 2011, 05:07:22 PM
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If you say you can be you most certainly can not  Roll Eyes
We need a </sarcasm> tag. :p
Agreed. It's also possible I'm not actually a sock puppet. So perhaps I'm not really as trustworthy as I claim...
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October 27, 2011, 07:05:43 PM
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This was a really great thread for a newbie like myself.  Thanks for posting.  I obviously need to do some more investigating regarding bitcoin security.  Embarrassed
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October 28, 2011, 06:56:22 PM
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Yeepp  correct, don`t trust for self ;_)))
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October 29, 2011, 02:15:49 PM
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I'M WEARING A WIRE!!!!
Speak up so they can hear you Smiley

AREN'T YOU COLD!!!!

Ha ha ha... fifth post.  Tongue
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October 30, 2011, 08:03:24 PM
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Well i shall just throw in a few more ideas to the paranoia pot:

encryption is not foolproof, there are a number of attacks that can beat encryption (i would like to see if its possible to steal the (un)encrypted data right out of the memory while the computer is on and client running..)

also please consider that most of the methods used to break encryption keys utilize the exact same hardware we tend to mine on (powerful GPUs) to significantly reduce the time taken to crack a key...
attacking a 10 character alphanumeric password with the average 1gh/s mining rig is more than feasible especially considering most miners tend to already leave the machine on 24/7...

Dont trust anyone, even yourself!
Expect to be ripped off and scammed at every turn, that way you at least saw it coming  Wink
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