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August 25, 2012, 02:57:35 PM
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Sound like wise words there dude, tinfoil-hat level paranoia is a term i like lol.... yes I agree - the current state of bitcoin, and hell the human race in relation to bitcoin as well - both require such a level of paranoia at the moment, hopefully this will change in time.

It just makes me sad to see how many people trust some website with all their bitcoins. Even if a website is trustworthy, we have seen plenty of them get hacked.

Security is the number-one concern of the dev team, so I am confident that someday people will be able to keep them on their PC safely, but there is still a lot of work to be done before we get there.

In the meantime, be paranoid.

Thanks for the advice, I think with what has happened over the past year especially I keep my coins in my own local wallet.  If I need to do a transaction I'll do so with the idea of not leaving any extra coins on a site longer than needed, and only to sites that have a decent reputation.   I figure any site potentially can be attacked, last thing I'd want is my coins going with it because I was lazy and left them there unnecessarily.
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August 26, 2012, 12:36:59 AM
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Thank you for the advice. I used blockchain.info to hold my bitcoins, but when I read this thread, I am starting to think that I should instead stick with the client wallet that weusecoins provides
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August 26, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
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Hey common, you can trust me guys I'm here to help. PM me if you need anything  Smiley
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August 27, 2012, 03:07:19 AM
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Good advice, paranoia is good, keeps you on your toes, TRUST IN BITCOIN and no one else, well... Maybe someone else but just be careful people, obviously.

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August 27, 2012, 01:33:29 PM
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I posted this question in a different thread but it seems that he is a better place for it.

Can you get a wallet on an iPhone or iPad? These are the devices I use for daily business and it would make life so much easier if you could.

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August 27, 2012, 01:42:43 PM
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I posted this question in a different thread but it seems that he is a better place for it.

Can you get a wallet on an iPhone or iPad? These are the devices I use for daily business and it would make life so much easier if you could.

The only one I know of is blockchain.info. You can find some info about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100787.0
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August 27, 2012, 01:53:50 PM
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Looked it up and downloaded it.  Many thanks. Now I need to work out how it works.  Oh, and get some coins!

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August 27, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
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The wise words of Winston Churchill,
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."

Even the best of us get scammed when word hasn't got out yet. That's so much more true with Bitcoin. With no established authority to maintain a safe environment, it's only word of mouth that holds the power. So come to think of it... This forum is the closest thing to an authority figure.

  • It's this forum (amongst others) that puts scammers in their place.
  • It's this forum that has the respected members of the Bitcoin industry who have the power (and usually the will) to make sure that these scam "artists" get as little attention and respect as possible.
  • It's also this forum that breeds scammers, which is an unfortunate truth.

So trust can be taken with as many grains of salt you wish. If there was an authority with the power to get these scammer sites and services shut down then the Bitcoin-world would be a better place but until then we just have to hold out until somebody gets done over by a scammer and speaks out (preferably on this forum because then I'll find out,  Tongue).

Just putting my case across so hopefully it holds some merit. Like hearing about all your views so thought I might as well join in, hehe.
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August 27, 2012, 02:52:11 PM
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thanks
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August 28, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
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It's always better to not trust anybody in principle. It's easy, you must just behave like in real live and not trust the first one you see.

Cheers and liberty!

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August 29, 2012, 01:06:34 AM
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well the story with bitcoin saving and trust, the uncountable hacks of servicesites & exchanges,... it is quite sure that there are many people around crypto coins, who cannot be trusted...


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August 29, 2012, 07:40:41 PM
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Can I trust myself?


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August 29, 2012, 07:41:09 PM
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Sometimes I hit myself. Wait, or is that spank?


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August 29, 2012, 11:14:40 PM
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Hey I just heard about a guy named Pirate.  Can I trust him with all my bitcoins?  Cheesy  Cheesy
(BTW - Why would anyone trust a guy named "Pirate"?  I think I'll start a new account named "Thief" and create a great new investment opportunity...)

Actually most of my coins are stored in a paper wallet - that is stored in a bank safety deposit box. That wallet was generated on a fresh-install computer that has never been connected to the 'net.   Not only am I concerned about someone stealing my coins, but what if I'm killed by a falling meteor?  I want my family to be able to find and spend the coins.

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August 30, 2012, 09:24:56 AM
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He probably used the "hiding in plain sight" principle when determining his name.  Clearly someone named Pirate can't be a scammer, it would be too obvious. Wink
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August 30, 2012, 12:09:24 PM
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I think that basic level for trust should be 0, and only go up from there by positive references that you can trust.
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August 30, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
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I think it's better not to trust anybody on internet unless you know he/she personally.
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August 30, 2012, 07:53:04 PM
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Trust people you only know offline, but don't trust strangers. We are no longer monkeys.

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August 31, 2012, 02:59:03 AM
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Trust must be earned.
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September 01, 2012, 02:44:58 AM
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Here is how I see it. Bitcoins = Cash in a land with 'no government' or regulations. Only trust someone to the same degree you would give them the equivilent amount of money in your local currency.

Most people wouldn't  hand over $500 to a stranger, so why trust them with 50BTC?

If you enjoyed the advice I gave, feel free to toss over some loose change Smiley
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