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May 15, 2014, 10:21:51 AM
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Who has still hope to get some coins back in here ??


 
 
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May 15, 2014, 01:16:15 PM
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Who has still hope to get some coins back in here ??

Me. All I have is hope.

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May 16, 2014, 02:57:54 AM
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Who has still hope to get some coins back in here ??

I simply can not understand why people think there is any chance that they'll get their stolen money back.  I guess ya, hope and denial is some of the few things  you are left with after being robbed.

I don't even know how long its been anymore.  When did the 6000+ btc 'disappear' and 'become unavailable' ? Was it October, November. I don't even recall.

I'm really surprised that the ole  'Oh oh sorry sorry, it's coming soon, i can't talk about it' defense actually sastifed so many people who literally had more than million bucks collectively ripped off from them, for what, 6 months now?
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May 16, 2014, 03:44:18 AM
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Hi Guys,

Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?

Thanks!

Nothing have changed as far as I know.. But Ukyo was pretty talkative on IRC this weekend. Not much new though, this is a summary: "<Ukyo> I am not elaborating at this time."

Here is a paste of the "interesting" parts of the chat: http://pastebin.com/EJ5BT49r

Regardless of the actual situation speaking to those missing money in this manner is ridiculous.
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June 18, 2014, 02:48:54 PM
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any news or update?
cheers

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June 18, 2014, 05:25:25 PM
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any news or update?
cheers

I've been trying to get in touch with Ukyo for almost a week now and I haven't had any luck.
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June 19, 2014, 12:47:05 PM
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any news or update?
cheers

I've been trying to get in touch with Ukyo for almost a week now and I haven't had any luck.

Try it on IRC... the chances are you get him though he is really watching on strange times so one cant say when he is watching.
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June 19, 2014, 07:57:56 PM
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any news or update?
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I've been trying to get in touch with Ukyo for almost a week now and I haven't had any luck.

Try it on IRC... the chances are you get him though he is really watching on strange times so one cant say when he is watching.

I've talked to him on IRC before.

But I've been messaging him there almost every day and have yet to hear from him.
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June 19, 2014, 10:18:46 PM
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any news or update?
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I've been trying to get in touch with Ukyo for almost a week now and I haven't had any luck.

Try it on IRC... the chances are you get him though he is really watching on strange times so one cant say when he is watching.

I've talked to him on IRC before.

But I've been messaging him there almost every day and have yet to hear from him.

You must try it on different times the day. At one point he always answered me then.
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June 19, 2014, 10:57:17 PM
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any news or update?
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I've been trying to get in touch with Ukyo for almost a week now and I haven't had any luck.

Try it on IRC... the chances are you get him though he is really watching on strange times so one cant say when he is watching.

I've talked to him on IRC before.

But I've been messaging him there almost every day and have yet to hear from him.

You must try it on different times the day. At one point he always answered me then.

I've never had a problem getting in touch with him before. When was the last time you talked to him on IRC?
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June 19, 2014, 11:16:19 PM
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any news or update?
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I've been trying to get in touch with Ukyo for almost a week now and I haven't had any luck.

Try it on IRC... the chances are you get him though he is really watching on strange times so one cant say when he is watching.

I've talked to him on IRC before.

But I've been messaging him there almost every day and have yet to hear from him.

You must try it on different times the day. At one point he always answered me then.

I've never had a problem getting in touch with him before. When was the last time you talked to him on IRC?

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July 22, 2014, 08:19:14 PM
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So what ended up happening here? What was the BTC Loss?
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July 22, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
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So what ended up happening here? What was the BTC Loss?

Its not yet public what the reason is. So far ukyo claims he has set everything possible in motion to get the coins back and until its not clear how the result will be he claims its important to not reveal what happened to not lower the chances.
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July 23, 2014, 04:37:31 AM
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Kind of cute the way you guys are just sitting around doing nothing, waiting for Ukyo to hand over millions.
Sad, but cute Smiley

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July 23, 2014, 08:07:25 PM
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Kind of cute the way you guys are just sitting around doing nothing, waiting for Ukyo to hand over millions.
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We really have no other choice. The state of bitcoin securities is a mess. You can't get blood from a stone. Either ukyo's new project will work out and people will get their coin back, or he will end up declaring bankruptcy.

You are basically just giving your money away if you invest in bitcoin securities.

I've just been watching, waiting for Havelock to get shut down. I'm surprised they are still around.

Where are all the lawsuits against the securities exchanges from people who have illegally lost money on them?

If you are an unregistered exchange and you are accepting money for an unlicensed, unregulated, unregistered security like NeoBee, you are complicit. I'd be very very wary of keeping your bitcoin anywhere but your own wallet. At least until there are real, regulated securities exchanges out there.

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July 23, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
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Kind of cute the way you guys are just sitting around doing nothing, waiting for Ukyo to hand over millions.
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We really have no other choice. The state of bitcoin securities is a mess. You can't get blood from a stone. Either ukyo's new project will work out and people will get their coin back, or he will end up declaring bankruptcy.

You are basically just giving your money away if you invest in bitcoin securities.

I've just been watching, waiting for Havelock to get shut down. I'm surprised they are still around.

Where are all the lawsuits against the securities exchanges from people who have illegally lost money on them?

If you are an unregistered exchange and you are accepting money for an unlicensed, unregulated, unregistered security like NeoBee, you are complicit. I'd be very very wary of keeping your bitcoin anywhere but your own wallet. At least until there are real, regulated securities exchanges out there.



Why declare bankruptcy when he can just do nothing like you guys are letting him? If this wonderful secret project fails, he'll just come up with another wonderful secret project to make up for both of those disasters.

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July 24, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
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Why declare bankruptcy when he can just do nothing like you guys are letting him? If this wonderful secret project fails, he'll just come up with another wonderful secret project to make up for both of those disasters.

I dont understand your first sentence. But see it this way. Coins are gone. As long as the company exists, those coins belong to, theres the chance to reget them. If weex is sued and cant pay then it has to go bankrupt if ukyo wont face criminal charges of failure to file for insolvency in due time. If weex as company doesnt exist anymore then the chance to reget the coins are gone too.

Of course the projects can fail. The projects anyway are only the second chance to get the coins back. The projects are for paying back ukyo loan. If thats done and in case the weex coins really cant be retrieved anymore then those projects are planned to pay back the lost weex coins too. So they are a backup plan.

Even when you arent pleased with the situation, your choices are very limited. Sueing and hoping ukyo somewhere has riches is useless when you take the amount of coins missing into account. You will get some per mille of your coins if sueing is successful. And the chance that your lawyer eats more than that are high. Thats why waiting looks like the best choice for the moment. Sueing ukyo doesnt run away.
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July 24, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
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You are of course assuming that the coins are missing, even though there has been no proof of that.

Ukyo either stole or lost the coins. In both cases you are fucked. If he stole them, the only way to get them back was probably to bring in law enforcement months ago. if he lost them, he's incompetent, so why do you think he'll be able to get them back or do a "project" to earn that many coins again?

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July 24, 2014, 03:44:10 PM
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Is this still a thing? Haven't people accepted by now that Ukyo most probably is living the life on Cyprus together with Mr. Brewster and a cocktail in his hand?

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July 24, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
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You are of course assuming that the coins are missing, even though there has been no proof of that.

Ukyo either stole or lost the coins. In both cases you are fucked. If he stole them, the only way to get them back was probably to bring in law enforcement months ago. if he lost them, he's incompetent, so why do you think he'll be able to get them back or do a "project" to earn that many coins again?

Sure there is no proof ukyo says the truth.

If ukyo stole the coins im very convinced he could have come up with some explaination of being hacked by an unknown party. It would be pretty easy to wash those coins in a couple of hours and you would never be able to proof that he was the thieve. If he stole them and it would be possible to find the traces he would have done it pretty dumb.

He had ukyo loan and i believe these loans were for projects too. You know the amount of these loans. So if those projects arent able to earn back the coins then the loan would be a failure from the start too.

There are other scenarios thinkable so that lost coins arent lost in any case and scenarios where he couldnt do anything against.

In any case. It doesnt matter what iam or you think. There is no choice. Will you sue him just for the thin believe that he might have stolen the coins and you will be able to find them? Or sue him now when he says there is still a chance to get even the original coins back but sueing could kill this chance?
Waiting is the only choice that has a slight chance of getting coins back successfully. So there is no much choice at the moment. All the anger doesnt matter. Im not happy with this situation myself but i want to go the route i see the biggest chances for the moment.

Is this still a thing? Haven't people accepted by now that Ukyo most probably is living the life on Cyprus together with Mr. Brewster and a cocktail in his hand?

You know... normal scammers vanish at some point. Ukyo is still available and speaking if you want. Check out IRC.
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