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November 23, 2013, 03:34:19 PM
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Issues with your BFL products?

Post below. Seems to be a more than a few smoking units out there.

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November 23, 2013, 07:05:44 PM
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i just RMA'd a 60gh/s so did a friend mine stopped connecting after it drop to half gh/s and it never did 60 what i paid it did 57gh/s with 30% HW errors

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November 24, 2013, 01:37:06 AM
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BFL will tell you that the under performance was disclosed in the spec (+/- 10%)

Of course if you are KNC then your spec was 20% understated.

So the 60gh I paid for got me 57gh so lost 5% of what I paid for.

7Gh Jallys were 8.5Gh and 7.3Gh so I am almost even.

Today I took all my BFL gear apart, took off covers, flipped fans (boy these things were put together like crap) and only netted 2gh.

Flashed my KNC with the lasted Firmware and it is doing about 5gh better so 30 minutes invested got 7gh more net.

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November 24, 2013, 03:23:53 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=342861.msg3672399#msg3672399

My BFL SC Single 60 went out in a puff of smoke - what next?


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November 24, 2013, 03:27:10 AM
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BitForce Single SC 60GH/s mining lower

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November 24, 2013, 03:27:54 AM
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2 Jallies only 1 Works

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November 24, 2013, 03:29:35 AM
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BFL Single blowing up? Be careful with the hacks, I'll buy the blown ones. :-)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343753.0

There was another user I pointed in your direction who was supposedly mining at stock speeds.  My original day 1 unit only mined at 53GH/s and failed after 7 days- I had a downtime of over 2 weeks costing more than 15 BTC.

Obviously people with stock units should try to RMA back to BFL and hope they can mine a little more afterwards or find a sucker to buy the little M80s in disguise.  People with hacked 30/60s have brass balls (maybe sparky ones shortly).

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November 24, 2013, 03:30:36 AM
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overheating mini rig...with hilarious video

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344616.0

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November 24, 2013, 03:31:18 AM
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Problems with 2 BFL mining devices

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November 24, 2013, 03:32:26 AM
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overheating mini rig...with hilarious video

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Had trouble opening a overheating mini rig, so my buddy Thad peeled it open...no miners were hurt in the making of this video.  Actually gained back 100ghs lost to overheating...


Is your BFL mini rig overheating? No problem, just give Thad a call. Watch as Thad peels open this mini rig as if it were a cardboard box.
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November 24, 2013, 03:43:15 AM
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My BFL SC finally arrived today.  I plugged it in and was only getting 26 GH/s.  So I unplug it, remove the power cord, and wait a few minutes.  When I hook it all back up, it now caps out at 15 GH/s.  Any ideas?

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November 24, 2013, 04:52:02 AM
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BFL 25 gh help with hashing!!!

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i fixed it guys

i opened it and removed the heatsink and reapplied thermal paste

and now it is hashing at 24gh

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November 24, 2013, 04:57:55 AM
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Two jalapenos, but only one is mining? How to fix it?

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November 24, 2013, 05:00:29 AM
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we have been getting reports for DOA jalla Bfl miners crapping out . Took BFL two weeks to answer the email then consumers shipped the jalla back and weeks later still waiting. Total time mining for consumer 2 weeks .Total wait time 7 months two weeks and yet to get a return miner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EskGPF5EN4Q

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November 24, 2013, 05:11:45 AM
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Wow, out of 45,000 units shipped, you managed to find... wait for it... 12 failures.

Now, I don't claim to be a math whiz or anything, but... I'm gonna say the failure rate is quite acceptable.

Lets be generous and say you found 1/100th of the actual failures, so that means there would be 1200 failures... a whopping... wait for it... 2.6% failure rate.

Holy hell batman!  Stop the presses!




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November 24, 2013, 05:14:01 AM
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yeah Josh, the hardware is fine, thanks

hey, about the delivery schedule...

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November 24, 2013, 05:23:45 AM
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My brand new single lasted almost a whole month before dying.  I sent it back, and they sent a replacement fairly quickly -- just 8 days of down time.  We'll see if this one lasts as long.  Can't complain about hardware that only spends 27% of its time in the shop.

BFL outright lies about delivery dates and produces total crap for product.

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PSA for EU BFL Customers: BFL single power supplies do not automatically switch to 240v power and will blow up if you plug them in before manually switching them. (fkn bfl cheapskates...) [did this] [loud pop sound] [quick trip to the computer store]

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Its a shame you're having so much trouble. It could be overheating? I've read about ppl turning the fans around to blow ONTO the chip rather than suck hot air out. If you're comfortable opening it up, check which way the fan is blowing.

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it ran at 30 for a while and then just shut all the way off. now its trying to reboot. Normal? or do I need to send this fucker back?!
is it possible Im not giving it enough power? like I should try a different outlet? now I just sound crazy...

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Can you post a picture? I kinda want to see it.

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I'll try https://i.imgur.com/cSwaTvq.jpg

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It's a little single. I run one of those too.
The PSU they include with the unit is quite bad Imho. Try with a quality ATX power supply (400W should be sufficient with a little single).You'll need to install drivers on Windows, linux supports it natively, hence I would prefer linux.
I use the my device with bfgminer with the -s ALL parameter.

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November 24, 2013, 07:49:05 AM
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yeah, that last, I'd be careful with that, there are only temperature sensors in certain places on the board, flipping the fans may lower readings on the sensors, but other areas of the board may not get sufficient cooling. lots of threads.  The long term effect is unknown.

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