BFL Product Failures / Underperformance.

[jojo69]

2 weeks Josh, we'll come up with a list of examples in 2 weeks.

[Unacceptable]

2 weeks™ Josh, we'll come up wit a list of examples in 2 weeks™.

You forgot the ™,FTFY 

[Henchman24]

You, like several others, make this claim... but you, like all others have yet to provide a single shred of evidence that I've lied anywhere.  But go on, please post a link to where I've lied, lets see it.  

 Ooh can I play ?!!? How about you lying about every single missed shipping and production estimate ?

 Oh shit, I'm sorry dude, those aren't lies... I keep forgetting you refer to these as mistakes... That you keep consistently making... Over and over again...

*mic drop*

There simply is no comeback to this.  There is NO WAY those shipping estimates were made in good faith.  To continue to pretend they were is just insulting.

I need to apologize for being a dick to you earlier this year, Xtian01.  I simply didn't know what we were up against.  He fooled me.  I'm sorry.

[jojo69]

he fooled a lot of us henchman, don't feel bad, I was a supporter of BFL for the longest time

[lajz99]

You can bet I'll buy miners from Bicknellski before BFL 

I wouldn't buy from either at this point... 

[Syke]

You, like several others, make this claim... but you, like all others have yet to provide a single shred of evidence that I've lied anywhere.  But go on, please post a link to where I've lied, lets see it.  My prediction:

Sounds like a fun game to play. I'll start it off.

When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?

Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.

[Douchee_bag]

My little winkie twinky is also an under performer, well that is what my boyfriend always says.

My urologist says there is nothing he can do for my little jalapeno unit.

[Unacceptable]

You can bet I'll buy miners from Bicknellski before BFL 

I wouldn't buy from either at this point... 

Well,he refunded all in his GB when Avalon failed to deliver.I never would have got a refund from BFL......I paid in BTC,so I was stuck 

[Bicknellski]

I thought this thread was just a repository of data for users experiencing problems.  In the interest of making the thread of use I will report that I milled the output plate of my full single yesterday so It has a full fan shaped hole.  It is certainly running cooler.  The input fan used to run all the time and now it throttles in and out.

That is the intention...

Help and informative to those who might want to know, not only the long list of problems, but also the solutions that the customers have come up with to resolve these many design and assembly mishaps ON THEIR OWN. I hope it can be valuable in two ways. 1. warn off people from BFL in future 2. Get the most out of the units for those who have them before they become obsolete.

[minternj]

I thought this thread was just a repository of data for users experiencing problems.  In the interest of making the thread of use I will report that I milled the output plate of my full single yesterday so It has a full fan shaped hole.  It is certainly running cooler.  The input fan used to run all the time and now it throttles in and out.

So just get rid of the restriction on the output side? Are you going to mill out the input side?

[jojo69]

I thought this thread was just a repository of data for users experiencing problems.  In the interest of making the thread of use I will report that I milled the output plate of my full single yesterday so It has a full fan shaped hole.  It is certainly running cooler.  The input fan used to run all the time and now it throttles in and out.

So just get rid of the restriction on the output side? Are you going to mill out the input side?

No, but only because there is a cat here and I fear her tail getting sucked in the input side, or some loose bit of debris large enough to jam the fan.  The thermal pads used by BFL seem quite thick in the pics I have seen, I may refit with closer tolerance pads, I am also considering better 92mm fans to cut down on the howling noise.

If I find a 120mm chrome wire grill I may mill the input plate.

G code for the fan cut to anyone who wants it.

[Bicknellski]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347378.0

Why must they replace the fans? Is a mod or just because the original fans are crap?

[Bicknellski]

More evidence to support some 'wonky' heat sink pads from BFL

   
Re: Normal / Safe Operating Temperatures for BFL Gear?

I reflashed a Jalepeno. Before flashing, it ran around 43c, hashing ~5.2GHz. After flashing AND removing the outer case and applying new thermal paste, it rarely goes over 37c, hashing ~8.3Ghz.

Environment (before and after flashing) = 20c, 45% RH, with a 6" fan blowing towards the Jalepeno.

Re: Normal / Safe Operating Temperatures for BFL Gear?

It was badly pasted?

Damn slackers at butterfly!!!

[SLok]

More evidence to support some 'wonky' heat sink pads from BFL

Re: Normal / Safe Operating Temperatures for BFL Gear?

I reflashed a Jalepeno. Before flashing, it ran around 43c, hashing ~5.2GHz. After flashing AND removing the outer case and applying new thermal paste, it rarely goes over 37c, hashing ~8.3Ghz.

Environment (before and after flashing) = 20c, 45% RH, with a 6" fan blowing towards the Jalepeno.

Evidence??? Only for a next fail of the BICKFAILSKI,
Before flashing, it ran around 43c, hashing ~5.2GHz. I'll forgive him the GHz, but he actually said the unit is perfect within specs.
After flashing AND removing the outer case Hey! He removed the outer case and it ran cooler! Surprise? Only for a Bickfailski of course.
applying new thermal paste OMG! He applied thermal paste! Of course he did, to flash a jalapeno you have to remove the sink, and what do you have to do after that? Apply a thermal conductive again, duhhh!
with a 6" fan blowing towards the Jalepeno. How crappy, BFL doesn't stick an extra 6" fan in the box to cool their perfectly within range operating Jalapeno!

Re: Normal / Safe Operating Temperatures for BFL Gear?
It was badly pasted?
Damn slackers at butterfly!!!

Question. No answer. Let's conclude! Fail.

[Bicknellski]

Recipe for BFL heat sink pads...




The secret make sure you do not roll your FONDANT too thin.

[magnificat_mafia]

You, like several others, make this claim... but you, like all others have yet to provide a single shred of evidence that I've lied anywhere.  But go on, please post a link to where I've lied, lets see it. 

 Ooh can I play ?!!? How about you lying about every single missed shipping and production estimate ?

 Oh shit, I'm sorry dude, those aren't lies... I keep forgetting you refer to these as mistakes... That you keep consistently making... Over and over again...

haha, he's not a liar, just an incompetent dumbass

[Inaba]

You, like several others, make this claim... but you, like all others have yet to provide a single shred of evidence that I've lied anywhere.  But go on, please post a link to where I've lied, lets see it. 

 Ooh can I play ?!!? How about you lying about every single missed shipping and production estimate ?

 Oh shit, I'm sorry dude, those aren't lies... I keep forgetting you refer to these as mistakes... That you keep consistently making... Over and over again...

haha, he's not a liar, just an incompetent dumbass

Hey Christian,

Where's that lawsuit you promised?  Oh... that's right, you're a liar.  No lawsuit from ol' Christian "Xian" Antkow.  I wonder why? 

[Henchman24]

You, like several others, make this claim... but you, like all others have yet to provide a single shred of evidence that I've lied anywhere.  But go on, please post a link to where I've lied, lets see it. 

 Ooh can I play ?!!? How about you lying about every single missed shipping and production estimate ?

 Oh shit, I'm sorry dude, those aren't lies... I keep forgetting you refer to these as mistakes... That you keep consistently making... Over and over again...

haha, he's not a liar, just an incompetent dumbass

Hey Christian,

Where's that lawsuit you promised?  Oh... that's right, you're a liar.  No lawsuit from ol' Christian "Xian" Antkow.  I wonder why? 

Good Job!  Whatever you do, don't ever address the actual substance of a post.  Just go into personal attack mode.  It's what all reputable company spokesmen do after all.   

[Xian01]

Where's that lawsuit you promised?  Oh... that's right, you're a liar.  No lawsuit from ol' Christian "Xian" Antkow.  I wonder why?  

 Don't keep asking silly questions you know the answers to, Josh. It only makes yourself look like an even greater fool and petty bottom-dwelling troll.

 For the forum-readers that are not aware of what happened, after considering a number of variables, it wasn't worth continuing to sue you after your lawyers threatened me with a frivolous libel and defamation suit, after formally addressing you, and preparing a breach of contract suit.

 In retrospect, best decision I ever made not continuing to sue you, and throwing good money after bad.

 It wasn't a total loss. Marco Santori, the lawyer I retained, is a fucking phenomenal guy, maintain a retainer with him, and look forward to working with them for personal matters in the future.

  *hugs*

PS: Are you and Sonny going to Pennsylvania to defend yourselves in court ? I really hope the information I provided can help the case against you.
PPS: Speaking of silly questions you should know the answers to, when is your Monarch bullet run expected to ship out to preorder customers ? November has almost come to an end.

[Bicknellski]

What no technical comment about using heat pads that were WAY too thick?

Sad.