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November 29, 2013, 06:33:38 PM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.

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November 29, 2013, 06:43:28 PM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.
I've been using the coins I mined with my GPUs since May as play money on the exchanges.  With the recent spike in pricing on the alt coins as well as the rise in BTC price, I think I'm sitting a bit better than that.  I'd say that's not bad considering my first investment was made using .28BTC I had mined to buy ASICMiner shares.

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November 29, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.

At some point I would put that leverage to action, and the only place to put them where they are not competing with the debt bubble is bitcoin hardware.

You have 2 types of supporters of bitcoin; the miner and the investor. We both do our fair share to make this revolution a reality, keep hording them coins! Let's give those FIAT mongers a real run for their printed paper.

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November 29, 2013, 09:34:11 PM
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Got my Jalapeno!  Since I already had the Little from before, I needed no driver installation so I just plugged it in and watched it go.  This is after it had been running with Bitminter's app for about an hour:



Knowing Bick, that is probably a fail somehow...

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November 29, 2013, 11:14:54 PM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.
I've been using the coins I mined with my GPUs since May as play money on the exchanges.  With the recent spike in pricing on the alt coins as well as the rise in BTC price, I think I'm sitting a bit better than that.  I'd say that's not bad considering my first investment was made using .28BTC I had mined to buy ASICMiner shares.

I doubt you have mined 50 BTC with your Single.

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November 30, 2013, 12:26:21 AM
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Question: Which Bitcoin-related company Chief Operating Officer violated their company privacy policies, by revealing privileged information about one of their previous, disenfranchised customers, and is trying to now smear their good name ?

I don't know, who?  Because it sure isn't me.  

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Question: Which Bitcoin-related company Chief Operating Officer lies about it, claiming it's publicly available information ?

I dunno, who?  Because it sure isn't me.

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Question: Which Bitcoin-related company Chief Operating Officer consistently "mistakes" about their production and shipping schedules ?

I dunno, who?  I'm not consistent in that regard.

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Question: Who is the bad guy again ?

Undeniably, it is you Christian 'Xian' Antkow.

Let's revisit your lies in relation to this:

Here is you, associated with your account as you discuss your desire for pedophillia (No, I'm not kidding, Christian Antkow is seriously talking about pedophiles.):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg2967154#msg2967154

Here, you post your own name:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207331.msg2171173#msg2171173

Which you've since deleted, but luckily some happy people quoted you before you went back and edited out your raving nutbaggery:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.msg2181148#msg2181148

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On May 16, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Butterfly Labs Inc wrote:

Dear Christian,

It has been relayed to me that you are unhappy with our company and I was asked to cancel your orders. If you would send me a PayPal address I will send your money back to you ASAP.

Jody
BF Labs, Inc.

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I am sorry, but that is erroneous.

I have never asked for, nor do I wish to receive a refund.

I have been patiently waiting for over 11 months now, and still have faith Butterfly Labs will deliver product.

Regards,



So you see, you complete nutcase, you posted your own name on Bitcointalk.  I revealed nothing that you haven't revealed publicly before.  Don't blame me for your inability to comprehend how the internet works.

http://www.caligirl.net/album/t-z/xian.html
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1026311291
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=10&time=20001216200132
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/2590/doom_iii_alpha_leak_id_s_statement/index.html
http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=qscopes.detail&id=215
http://www.spiritofradio.ca/bbs/index.asp?URL=%2Fviewtopic.php&Redirect=f%3D9%26t%3D234
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Christian+Antkow?anv=Christian+'Xian'+Antkow

Should I go on?  There's a veritable cornucopia of links associated with Xian and Christian Antkow.

As usual, you are the one that is mistaken.  That seems to be a habit with you.

I'm curious as to why you try to blame me for your failure of a life?  Everything you do turns to a pile of shit, but somehow it's BFL's fault. If you'd only learn to control your temper and mouth, you'd probably get along a lot better professionally and personally.  I mean, seriously, just look at your "hobbies" at the Caligirl Photo album.  "My hobby is driving my car really fast and women" hurr durr!  What are you, 12?


If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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November 30, 2013, 12:45:38 AM
Last edit: November 30, 2013, 03:24:47 AM by Xian01
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Everything you do turns to a pile of shit.

 Hit a nerve, did I ?

 Keep on lying mistaking, buddy. That's what they pay you for.

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November 30, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.
I've been using the coins I mined with my GPUs since May as play money on the exchanges.  With the recent spike in pricing on the alt coins as well as the rise in BTC price, I think I'm sitting a bit better than that.  I'd say that's not bad considering my first investment was made using .28BTC I had mined to buy ASICMiner shares.

I doubt you have mined 50 BTC with your Single.
I never said I MINED 50 BTC, I said I used the coins I mined on exchanges as my play money.  I'm pretty sure I do have more than 50BTC now, but the amount I actually mined is probably about 1/10 or less of that amount.

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November 30, 2013, 01:39:00 AM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.

I wish I had done the same, sadly I made the wrong choice that time.

Hopefully I'll still make enough profit in bitcoin in the next years so that I don't have to work 90 hour work weeks just to feed my family. At the rate the economy is going this may become reality for almost everyone.
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November 30, 2013, 02:07:10 AM
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Did you have any issues with the product itself?

Like to keep the trolls off the thread and get back on topic.

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November 30, 2013, 02:41:49 AM
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It runs without crashing so far, speed varies a lot and sometimes does 25gh/s like promised, sometimes even 26gh/s but on average it's closer to 23gh/s so I'd say they're not really true to their word.

First of all they deliver way too late and second they deliver a product that barely even meets 25gh/s like promised. For such a delay you'd expect them to compensate somewhat (free extra gh/s, partial money back, the option to freaking cancel the order with full money back, or something like that)

BFL is a big no for me. I'll leave the miner running at least until I get a Terrahash miner from a decent company but I'll never even think about buying from BFL ever again. Worst company ever.
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November 30, 2013, 02:45:29 AM
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BFL will tell you that the under performance was disclosed in the spec (+/- 10%)



I suspect them from purposefully sell miners that run at -10% more often than +10% poor business strategy, it'd be better to sell miners that are stronger than promised, because a happy customer is a returning customer. BFL doesn't give a shit about that philosophy.
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November 30, 2013, 04:23:32 AM
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Worst company ever.

+1

If they had delivered a reliable product anytime close to the promised delivery date, it would have been a wise investment.  As it was, their lies cost me money.

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December 01, 2013, 04:40:34 AM
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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5840-bf0005g-blows-circuit-breakers-my-house-why-2.html

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December 01, 2013, 05:34:52 AM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.

+1

Watch those posts disappear soon Xian01... or potentially the users get banned.

Doesn't it seem like there are performance and failure problems with their products based on the volume of reports?

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December 01, 2013, 10:13:47 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354001.msg3788759#msg3788759

BFL has "killer" hardware.


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I AM NOT KIDDING, BLF YOU JUST KILLED ALL MY ASIC MINING RIG!


i just read a post from BLF forum

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5840-bf0005g-blows-circuit-breakers-my-house-why-2.html

okay, i am not the only one.

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December 01, 2013, 10:21:38 AM
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The last post looks to be caused by a failed coupling capacitor in the power supply or internal windings of the switching transformer are making contact.

About 19/20 of the reported BFL failures I've seen are related to the low quality power supplies provided with the units. KnCminer/ASICminer/Bitfury/etc were smart to not include power supplies with their units. I disassemble and discuss the BFL little single and Jalapeno PSU quality in my video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PItCbRUFsQo
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December 01, 2013, 10:26:59 AM
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The last post looks to be caused by a failed coupling capacitor in the power supply or internal windings of the switching transformer are making contact.

About 19/20 of the reported BFL failures I've seen are related to the low quality power supplies provided with the units. KnCminer/ASICminer/Bitfury/etc were smart to not include power supplies with their units. I disassemble and discuss the BFL little single and Jalapeno PSU quality in my video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PItCbRUFsQo

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December 03, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354825.msg3795948#msg3795948


100 degrees... can you feel the heat?

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December 03, 2013, 02:25:26 PM
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Instead of buying a BFL Single for $1200, I bought 50 BTC. I still have them. They don't hash well, but they have made me very happy.

+1

Watch those posts disappear soon Xian01... or potentially the users get banned.

Doesn't it seem like there are performance and failure problems with their products based on the volume of reports?
Fail again, at home many failing attempts to kill your butthurt fire are you now? All those posting on failed hardware are still there.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354001.msg3788759#msg3788759

BFL has "killer" hardware.


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I AM NOT KIDDING, BLF YOU JUST KILLED ALL MY ASIC MINING RIG!


i just read a post from BLF forum

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5840-bf0005g-blows-circuit-breakers-my-house-why-2.html

okay, i am not the only one.

Fail again. What the poster did not realize, when posting a second post as his first one still had to go through the anti-spam approval, that it was still there. His first one mentioned a BITBURNER being destroyed. When that post took some time to show up, he tried to put an Avalon on scene because his bitburner couldn't generate that much money out of his attempt for compensation.

Fail again. 100C the second you power it on, only a real temp in Bickfailsky's butthurtdreamland. Just a failing temp sensor.

"Let's keep the trolls of the thread", it would be empty here because troll number one seems to be Bickfailsky himself....

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