NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[ImmortAlex]

You are the only one who is replying when I write about the conference. I really don´t know why people are so ignorant regarding this. Anyway, I won´t give up

Btw, I send 200 NXT more tx 17981240313792557739, block 31584 (10987345886947096244).
Please, don't give up!

[mcjavar]

Just a friendly reminder...

There will be a Bitcoin Conference in February held in Berlin.

http://www.mediabistro.com/insidebitcoins/

I am not from Berlin, but would love to represent Nxt on this venue. I decided to take 3 days off and fly over to Germany and use the opportunity to spread the word, let others know about Nxt and it´s features.
I am sure that we all will benefit from having someone around at a venue like this. I am asking the community to support these efforts by donating to help fund the journey and the purchase of marketing materials like T-Shirts & pendrives with Nxt logo/slogan on them, printing some cool Nxt bills, and so on.

I will document all the expenses and will make the spending of the fund transparent. I will also broadcast from the venue and post some pictures

I received donations from 3 persons so far... I am asking community members, escpeially with big stakes to support this and help with funds AND ideas how to make Germany aware of Nxt. Even a couple of hundred Nxts will help.

11433600460445633305

Thank you!

I strongly consider that support your presentation is much better then spend coins to all this "please-give-me" 's I see in this thread.
And I wonder why your request has almost no reaction among Nxt holders...

Thank you very much for your 200 Nxt again. You already sent 600 to the fund. I don´t know if the account you´ve sent it from is your main account, if yes, please stop sending donations as I don´t think it´s fair to accept donations from someone only having 2000 Nxt in his wallet. You are great and you really make this community a better place! Thank you!

[Jean-Luc]

So, after i clicked "send", the GUI waited too long. Finally it said "sent". Then i checked blocks tab and found wrong recent blocks number, unconfirmed transactions and other signs of freezed java process. I instantly logged into the server and found several exceptions (not related to timeout) in the log. Few minutes later daemon died by not enough memory exception.

Instead of that useless CRC checks, it's better first to implement an additional check that the process itself is heathly and can be used to transfer money. Right, just few integrity checks before NXT transfer execution. It's Java. It's cross-platform. It's terrible and not really your friend.

Do you keep the log with those exceptions? Please post it here or send it to me.

What version were you running?

Were you logged in at one account only at the time, or had several browser windows open? Were any other account mining in the background (if you closed their tabs without clicking the unlock icon first)? Any other relevant detail?

Checksums will not help with this type of bug. Very likely the account to which the transaction was wrongly sent will also have passed the checksum.

[intel]

I bet i know the real reason for this.  I had this issue also (transaction was sent to another account).

So, after i clicked "send", the GUI waited too long. Finally it said "sent". Then i checked blocks tab and found wrong recent blocks number, unconfirmed transactions and other signs of freezed java process. I instantly logged into the server and found several exceptions (not related to timeout) in the log. Few minutes later daemon died by not enough memory exception.

Instead of that useless CRC checks, it's better first to implement an additional check that the process itself is heathly and can be used to transfer money. Right, just few integrity checks before NXT transfer execution. It's Java. It's cross-platform. It's terrible and not really your friend.

GUI waits until all peers receive the transaction, the time heavily depends on pushThreshold value. Before sending a transaction NRS checks that its signature matches signed data, if recipient value was changed after signing the transaction wouldn't be confirmed.

Due to crash of java process, the number entered and transferred to the daemon by Javascript UI was corrupted (or mixed during interpretation) inside the very first stage of transfer process itself.

[EmoneyRu]

I cannot understand why someone would use java for such a critical system. Stick with C/C++ (well, c# would be ok, too)

And rely on mono @ linux? And what about raspberry Pi?
We don't calculate much, we need a lot of features. C/C++ s*cks

[ImmortAlex]

Can we figure something out to support these things, so people who are actually promoting Nxt in the real world have the materials, a good website (marketing website, not a technical one, so a presentation site), and factsheets and goodies to hand out?

We definitely need some prefessional-look presentations in PDF. Not only for this conference, but for general promotion.
Yes, online videos is good, but it's good only for online.

[delulo]

where will the source code be released? And is there a thread to discuss it?

[pinarello]

Dgex login not possible.

this is NOT the time to have problems, please resolve asap.

Pin

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2138.0.html

[intel]

** Do you keep the log with those exceptions? Please post it here or send it to me.

Unfortunately no.

What version were you running?

0.4.8 most likely

** Were you logged in at one account only at the time, or had several browser windows open?
** Were any other account mining in the background (if you closed their tabs without clicking the unlock icon first)? Any other relevant detail?

Several tabs with several accounts, one of them was forging.

** if you closed their tabs without clicking the unlock icon first

I do this often. It's possible.

** Checksums will not help with this type of bug.
** Very likely the account to which the transaction was wrongly sent will also have passed the checksum.

I agree

[Come-from-Beyond]

Due to crash of java process, the number entered and transferred to the daemon by Javascript UI was corrupted (or mixed during interpretation) inside the very first stage of transfer process itself.

Even if Java process crashes due to not enough memory error, JVM continues to work properly.

[mcjavar]

Just a friendly reminder...

There will be a Bitcoin Conference in February held in Berlin.

http://www.mediabistro.com/insidebitcoins/

I am not from Berlin, but would love to represent Nxt on this venue. I decided to take 3 days off and fly over to Germany and use the opportunity to spread the word, let others know about Nxt and it´s features.
I am sure that we all will benefit from having someone around at a venue like this. I am asking the community to support these efforts by donating to help fund the journey and the purchase of marketing materials like T-Shirts & pendrives with Nxt logo/slogan on them, printing some cool Nxt bills, and so on.

I will document all the expenses and will make the spending of the fund transparent. I will also broadcast from the venue and post some pictures

I received donations from 3 persons so far... I am asking community members, escpeially with big stakes to support this and help with funds AND ideas how to make Germany aware of Nxt. Even a couple of hundred Nxts will help.

11433600460445633305

Thank you!

I strongly consider that support your presentation is much better then spend coins to all this "please-give-me" 's I see in this thread.
And I wonder why your request has almost no reaction among Nxt holders...

You are the only one who is replying when I write about the conference. I really don´t know why people are so ignorant regarding this. Anyway, I won´t give up

I just heard I am going to represent my company on the Ambiente fair in the Frankfurter Messe in February. My main work will of course be for my own company, but in the five days I am there I will meet loads of business people (wholesalers and big retailers) from all over the world. I am certainly willing, if it doesn't conflict with my business, to introduce these people to Nxt.
I would need some nice marketing tools though, to at least get them hooked/interested.

We're in te beginning of development, so it's natural that we can't give them totally finished tools to show, but anything helps at this moment to at least BE there.

Can we figure something out to support these things, so people who are actually promoting Nxt in the real world have the materials, a good website (marketing website, not a technical one, so a presentation site), and factsheets and goodies to hand out?

Maybe we can pool resources as marketeers.

I think Hash could help with the marketing materials:

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2083.0.html

[ImmortAlex]

I don´t know if the account you´ve sent it from is your main account, if yes, please stop sending donations as I don´t think it´s fair to accept donations from someone only having 2000 Nxt in his wallet. You are great and you really make this community a better place! Thank you!

Do not afraid This is my special account for sending and receiving donations. Yes, it is mosly contains coins I bought on dgex, but... I created it for donations anyway.

[NxtChg]

Checksums will not help with this type of bug. Very likely the account to which the transaction was wrongly sent will also have passed the checksum.

If the address got corrupted on its way from GUI to server, then to network, checksum will prevent other nodes from accepting it.

Checksums are precisely the mechanism invented for unreliable transport.

It's unlikely that the address would have corrupted in such a way as to match the checksum, and this probability goes down exponentially with every added bit of checksum.

[delulo]

where will the source code be released? And is there a thread to discuss it?

does anyone know?

[salsacz]

Can we figure something out to support these things, so people who are actually promoting Nxt in the real world have the materials, a good website (marketing website, not a technical one, so a presentation site), and factsheets and goodies to hand out?
Maybe we can pool resources as marketeers.

I'll have prepared a short Nxt introduce video, it could be also presented on Nexus7 tablet during the handshaking

Business cards are in progress:
- https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1201.msg13532.html#msg13532

They will be used in Miami conference:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,853.30.html

And then in Berlin:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1518.0.html

We might print and use some already prepared (but not completed) infographics:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1565.msg20180.html#msg20180

Marketing googlesheet isn't updated yet, but there are also some names..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=9

[intel]

Checksums will not help with this type of bug. Very likely the account to which the transaction was wrongly sent will also have passed the checksum.

If the address got corrupted on its way from GUI to server, then to network, checksum will prevent other nodes from accepting it.

Not from the GUI to server, but during the interpretation in a corrupted Java process. The Java process simply can do any crazy thing when crashing. It's why many of You get their blockchain corrupted time to time - exactly for the same reason - Java process got corrupted during blockchain update. But in our case Java process got corrupted (for any reason) during transaction.

[PaulyC]

Not yet.  

But Darla Sue and Bonnie may be talking to him tomorrow night and over the weekend about that.  

Is that like a modern day Thelma and Louise? he should only be so lucky.  like it.

[ImmortAlex]

Can we figure something out to support these things, so people who are actually promoting Nxt in the real world have the materials, a good website (marketing website, not a technical one, so a presentation site), and factsheets and goodies to hand out?
Maybe we can pool resources as marketeers.

I'll have prepared a short Nxt introduce video, it could be also presented on Nexus7 tablet during the handshaking

Business cards are in progress:
- https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1201.msg13532.html#msg13532

They will be used in Miami conference:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,853.30.html

And then in Berlin:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1518.0.html

We might print and use some already prepared (but not completed) infographics:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1565.msg20180.html#msg20180

Marketing googlesheet isn't updated yet, but there are also some names..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=9

Not bad at all!

[Pixelhouse]

If someone is willing to give some for free that's nice, but if not i'm willing to spend some cash on it.
So if someone is selling NXT let me know.

[N[e]wBie]

I just saw the warning and updated to .4.8, my balance is showing as zero but im behind on the blocks. I am super worried, my face is flush and I am scared! How can I catch up or see if anything happened? This would be really devastating to me if I got exploited with the fake client