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January 05, 2014, 06:59:43 PM
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is there a way to remove "The Matrix has you" from Jetty when accessed outside of localhost?

Wanted to show to a group of people what it looks like. And how does account get created etc, plus if I add a SSL ppl can use it to create accounts without bothering with downloading client. Talking about people that trust me and would like to have own accounts.
I am tired of creating accounts for others haha plus hard to send them the password in a secure way
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January 05, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
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is there a way to remove "The Matrix has you" from Jetty when accessed outside of localhost?

Wanted to show to a group of people what it looks like. And how does account get created etc, plus if I add a SSL ppl can use it to create accounts without bothering with downloading client. Talking about people that trust me and would like to have own accounts.
I am tired of creating accounts for others haha plus hard to send them the password in a secure way

Put * into allowedUserHosts in web.xml.
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January 05, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
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my password that worked fine in december now opens different account(i didn't log in since 26 december or something like that)
i have tried too many times to add some spaces(who knows) before and after my password - still didn't catch right number.
bye bye 5000 nxt.
fuck this, i know probably its my fault, but honestly - i don't know where i commit the error.
i hope nxt will die, so i never regret for this lost account.  Sad
If it will be successful - so nice to be such a lucky idiot.
don't wanna buy anymore:
1.don't have money for it.
2.and  even if it was my fault, i don't trust anymore.

sad.

Caps lock or any upper case letters?
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January 05, 2014, 07:04:21 PM
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Can't connect.

http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3afreenxt.com&run=toolpage

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January 05, 2014, 07:06:51 PM
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HTTP ConnectUnable to connect to the remote server (http://freenxt.com/)

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January 05, 2014, 07:12:34 PM
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my vote:

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January 05, 2014, 07:12:52 PM
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exactly, which is why id prefer it kept out of circulation market cap figures until then.  And I used to be against your proposal to deny funding of darkNXT accounts but I dont think I am now.

Not everyone sends at least 1 NXT to himself to get a public key. Many don't know they should do it if they hadn't any outgoing transactions.
These are saving accounts. Saving-account-NXTs can always get into circulation again, any time. Like the ones with this special outgoing transaction. I think this would be misleading.

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and I guess I do agree with you on that the 0.5.1 release should prohibit those accounts with stolen funds from generating public keys.  We should do it now to try to flush out the thief because he knows if he doesnt xfer it now he'll never get it.  so lets all keep an eye on those accounts

Weird centralized action, wouldn't it be? Who decides this?


Yes this is dangerous centralization. We can keep an eye on those accounts, sure but who are we to try and lock certain accounts at a whim. Chalk this on up to a learning lesson, fool us once.......

We are NXT community. If anybody wants to prevent these accts from being frozen, all they have to do is post here and we won't freeze it in the next release. If it is really darkNXT, then freezing it won't harm anybody except future NXT miners (not forgers, 64bit darkNXT miners). I can't imagine anybody being hurt by these accts being frozen, other than the thief(s).

If we can't just do it because it makes sense, then it is perfect for voting. I imagine freezing these accts wins by landslide.

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January 05, 2014, 07:13:35 PM
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Not for any bounty, but there is a Dutch info-site now, too.

http://nxtcoins.nl/

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January 05, 2014, 07:13:50 PM
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The http://nxtra.org faucet has just received a 100,000 coin donation meaning it'll be active for quite some time :-) Go get yourself some coins!

Great stuff!
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January 05, 2014, 07:14:41 PM
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Ok, let's wait for a while. BCNext wants to see it before deciding what place it wins.
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January 05, 2014, 07:15:32 PM
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my password that worked fine in december now opens different account(i didn't log in since 26 december or something like that)
i have tried too many times to add some spaces(who knows) before and after my password - still didn't catch right number.
bye bye 5000 nxt.
fuck this, i know probably its my fault, but honestly - i don't know where i commit the error.
i hope nxt will die, so i never regret for this lost account.  Sad
If it will be successful - so nice to be such a lucky idiot.
don't wanna buy anymore:
1.don't have money for it.
2.and  even if it was my fault, i don't trust anymore.

sad.

share me your guess of a password, I can try and win the prize. 50% finders fee. also send the block chain so we can see theres NXT there

haha, No.

maybe will be a lucky day for me when i can enter in my account.
real problem is that my password...too fucking complicated.
thx to my paranoia.
I probably need some software(brute force), maybe if i already know the "password" with some error - it will be less complicated for software to find it.
If it really was my fault..
my password that worked fine in december now opens different account(i didn't log in since 26 december or something like that)
i have tried too many times to add some spaces(who knows) before and after my password - still didn't catch right number.
bye bye 5000 nxt.
fuck this, i know probably its my fault, but honestly - i don't know where i commit the error.
i hope nxt will die, so i never regret for this lost account.  Sad
If it will be successful - so nice to be such a lucky idiot.
don't wanna buy anymore:
1.don't have money for it.
2.and  even if it was my fault, i don't trust anymore.

sad.



Caps lock or any upper case letters?

i have tried everything in 2 days.
capslock, spaces
even changed to unicode, utf..
It is very strange.
My password is a little long - this become a real hell to find the error.
If it exist. this error.

However i have saved my password in .txt, when i created an account.
So it really strange.
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January 05, 2014, 07:17:24 PM
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The http://nxtra.org faucet has just received a 100,000 coin donation meaning it'll be active for quite some time :-) Go get yourself some coins!

Great stuff!

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January 05, 2014, 07:19:07 PM
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@James

I would only accept Gold for my NXT.

I would love this solution if they offered us 10 billion in GOLD....then BCNext could make a crypto-coin into a true RESERVE CURRENCY....NXT backed by gold...not even the US dollar is backed by gold anymore.


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January 05, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
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More likes needed .

137 people like this idea ..      https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44434


Can we use ''Nxt Bounty Thread''  to encourage people to vote.

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January 05, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
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We are NXT community. If anybody wants to prevent these accts from being frozen, all they have to do is post here and we won't freeze it in the next release. If it is really darkNXT, then freezing it won't harm anybody except future NXT miners (not forgers, 64bit darkNXT miners). I can't imagine anybody being hurt by these accts being frozen, other than the thief(s).

If we can't just do it because it makes sense, then it is perfect for voting. I imagine freezing these accts wins by landslide.

James

Much as I hate the thought of someone getting away with stealing nxt, I strongly disagree with any idea about hardcoding into the client something that freezes these (or any) accounts. It is the start of a slippery slope that leads to bad places.
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January 05, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
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I have "discovered" a serious flaw in NXT. The IMF exists to stop the opposite attack on fiats, eg. massive short selling. CfB says this attack is well known, but I didn't know about it and so maybe you don't know about it either. I was told to post it publicly, so here it is:

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I have come up with non-standard attack, call it financial attack.

Short term, this "attack" would be considered as fantastic by most NXT'ers and it consists of simply buying up all the NXT. Crazy, expensive?

Consider you are large govt with fiat of trillions of dollars, billion dollars is lunch money. They can easily win the "war on NXT". What happens if large scale accumulation of NXT occurs with $10 billion budget. How much of NXT will be left?

All accumulated NXT can be destroyed by sending to genesis acct permanently crippling NXT market. Or it can be converted to many darkNXT accts so nobody would even realize it is happening. I am assuming if we started seeing a lot of NXT being sent to genesis acct, we would notice, but so far no darkNXT detection is implemented. Without realizing, 90%+ of NXT could be destroyed with $10 billion.

Actually at $10 NXT, who wouldn't sell their NXT, so how much NXT will survive a financial attackers $10/NXT bid, especially if it was done cleverly to avoid detection? 1% left? Maybe even less. With .01 precision, smallest increment will be 10 cents even without any more price increase. NXT would be useless for microtransactions, until support is added for microNXT.

James

P.S. Solution is to not destroy NXT when sent to genesis acct, just have it automatically put into community fund. Also, PREVENT darkNXT at the protocol level. I guess evil financial attacker could simply destroy their key though so even with darkNXT fixed, there is no solution to this attack.


I agree with taking precautions on preventing darkNXT, however, I disagree on solution to sending to genesis account.  A community fund is still too centralized.  I think that any nxt sent to genesis account should be put in the next block fee.  And the account that sent the nxt to genesis account would be prohibited from forging that particular block.  This would discourage anyone from sending to genesis account, if that is our goal.  

On darkNXT, there is no real solutions.  Any government or corporation could buy the majority of Nxt and just sit on it, and that would essentially limit commerce.  The only solution would be to increase divisibles, so that even with 100 Nxt, the currency would survive..
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January 05, 2014, 07:27:27 PM
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jl777, still good to see your input here. We need a variety of voices to be heard, and yours is an important one.
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January 05, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
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exactly, which is why id prefer it kept out of circulation market cap figures until then.  And I used to be against your proposal to deny funding of darkNXT accounts but I dont think I am now.

Not everyone sends at least 1 NXT to himself to get a public key. Many don't know they should do it if they hadn't any outgoing transactions.
These are saving accounts. Saving-account-NXTs can always get into circulation again, any time. Like the ones with this special outgoing transaction. I think this would be misleading.

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and I guess I do agree with you on that the 0.5.1 release should prohibit those accounts with stolen funds from generating public keys.  We should do it now to try to flush out the thief because he knows if he doesnt xfer it now he'll never get it.  so lets all keep an eye on those accounts

Weird centralized action, wouldn't it be? Who decides this?


Agreed, this is dangerous to freeze any account for any reason.  Regardless of how the user acquired Nxt, their account should never be controlled.
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January 05, 2014, 07:30:11 PM
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I agree with taking precautions on preventing darkNXT, however, I disagree on solution to sending to genesis account.  A community fund is still too centralized.  I think that any nxt sent to genesis account should be put in the next block fee.  And the account that sent the nxt to genesis account would be prohibited from forging that particular block.  This would discourage anyone from sending to genesis account, if that is our goal.  

On darkNXT, there is no real solutions.  Any government or corporation could buy the majority of Nxt and just sit on it, and that would essentially limit commerce.  The only solution would be to increase divisibles, so that even with 100 Nxt, the currency would survive..

even if an entity has 90% of the coins....he still can;t kill NXT because of TRANSPARENT MINING....this is the true strength of NXT....TRULY OUR BCNext is a GENIUS.

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January 05, 2014, 07:30:14 PM
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We are NXT community. If anybody wants to prevent these accts from being frozen, all they have to do is post here and we won't freeze it in the next release. If it is really darkNXT, then freezing it won't harm anybody except future NXT miners (not forgers, 64bit darkNXT miners). I can't imagine anybody being hurt by these accts being frozen, other than the thief(s).

If we can't just do it because it makes sense, then it is perfect for voting. I imagine freezing these accts wins by landslide.

James

Much as I hate the thought of someone getting away with stealing nxt, I strongly disagree with any idea about hardcoding into the client something that freezes these (or any) accounts. It is the start of a slippery slope that leads to bad places.


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