NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[starik69]

Oh, again "Recent blocks [-2442]"
And all weights are zeros.

[greyw00lf]

this account steals nxt from faucet accounts that received 2-4 coins
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=10240127441587503741

unexperianced guys create accounts via a link a gave them, then they submit their addresses to the faucet and 1h later their money got stolen into this account.

PUT STRONG PASSPHRASES!!

...OR...
someone creates a lot of new accounts, feeds them with the faucet and then transfers it to one "collecting-account"

[Come-from-Beyond]

wow at the number of nxt clones appearing in  the last couple of days.

anyone seen NEUTRON? lol

They have "1 coffee girl". Shouldn't we hire 2 such girls?

[delulo]

I withdrew nxt from dgex on 2014-01-03 01:29:25. Up to now it has only 3 confirmations and it didnt show up in my balance. Why is that sooo slow? Confirmations within minutes were advertised...

The block is 1311870044842328791

[wesleyh]

this account steals nxt from faucet accounts that received 2-4 coins
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=10240127441587503741

unexperianced guys create accounts via a link a gave them, then they submit their addresses to the faucet and 1h later their money got stolen into this account.

PUT STRONG PASSPHRASES!!

How do they steal it exactly??

This was probably done before the captcha was added.

[marcus03]

What is the id of the first block number so I can get started?

You might want to call getState, start with the highest block and walk down the chain.

BTW, there is an API thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313082.msg3358057#msg3358057

[abuelau]

Announcing the MyNxt.info block explorer

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer

I thought it would be good to have another option for a block explorer. This one is simpler than the existing block explorer and I intend to keep it this way, but I think it is useful for most tasks.

Features:

- block details
- account details
- transaction details
- latest blocks
- latest transactions

I will be adding block/account/transaction search functionality later today.

It is still pretty much alpha software, I am playing with some of the parameters and changing things but I would appreciate if people could take a look and give me feedback. Let me know if you find any problems/bugs/etc.

Quite nice. Alert system is a neat feature!

Thanks!

[EmoneyRu]

wow at the number of nxt clones appearing in  the last couple of days.

anyone seen NEUTRON? lol

They have "1 coffee girl". Shouldn't we hire 2 such girls?

2 girls one NXT?

[pinarello]

poll is up go vote !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401123.0


BCNext offers a fun game to the community.

Rules:

1. Community decides what 3 questions they want to ask
2. Community posts these questions in this thread (in ~24 hours starting from now)
3. BCNext answers this questions (will be signed by the genesis account)
4. BCNext has the right to refuse to answer any (or all) of the questions (so don't ask his real name)

This is a win-win game. Community will get answers to some questions (like why the fund raising was cancelled so suddenly). BCNext will see how the community comes to a consensus without strict rules (like "the longest chain wins").

If u accept this offer u could start choosing the most important questions...

[Zahlen]

wow at the number of nxt clones appearing in  the last couple of days.

anyone seen NEUTRON? lol

They have "1 coffee girl". Shouldn't we hire 2 such girls?

2 girls one NXT?

NXT isn't divisible yet, this could get ugly!

[ferment]

As an example, I have put this into the 'notsoshifty' alias:

Code:

{"web":"http://www.notsoshifty.de/","fb":"notsoshifty","twitter":"notsoshifty","nxtacct":"11111125831111116332","smtp":"notsoshifty111@example.com","skype":"notsoshifty1971"}

Or, easier to read:

Code:

{
   "web" : "http://www.notsoshifty.de/",
   "nxtacct" : "11111125831111116332",
   "smtp" : "notsoshifty111@example.com",
   "skype" : "notsoshifty1971",
   "twitter" : "notsoshifty",
   "fb" : "notsoshifty"
}

So the idea would be that if "nxt:notsoshifty" was entered into a browser, the browser extension would fetch the alias, look for the 'web' entry, and go to that URL (http://www.notsoshifty.de/). A nxt client would look for the 'nxtacct' entry if it was in reference to making a payment; an email client would look for 'smtp', etc.

Ferment: if you think this is a good idea, perhaps you could modify the 22k.io site (and browser extensions?) to check for json and act accordingly? (It should also support the existing method of course). Also anybody who might be developing nxt clients using aliases as account numbers.

I think it would be easier for parsers if that structure declared it's type:

Code:

{"contact:{"web":"http://www.notsoshifty.de/","fb":"notsoshifty","twitter":"notsoshifty","nxtacct":"11111125831111116332","smtp":"notsoshifty111@example.com","skype":"notsoshifty1971"}}

Then a parser could decide quickly how to handle a nxtdata alias instead of having to guess by the existence of a combination of key names.

[marcus03]

Running NXT on Windows and Linux and I'm getting the impression that saving of the *.nxt files is a often a problem. They are often corrupted when starting up, likely because the process didn't finish in time when the OS goes down/reboots.

Could saving/loading of the files be implemented like this:

Shutdown:
-Save files as "*.nxt.new".
-Delete "*.nxt" files"
-Rename "*.nxt.new" to "*.nxt"

Startup:
-If there are *.nxt files, use them.
-If not, check for "*.nxt.new" files, rename them to "*.nxt" and load.

[BitcoinForumator]

Up to how many decimals is NXT divisible?

[delulo]

I withdrew nxt from dgex on 2014-01-03 01:29:25. Up to now it has only 3 confirmations and it didnt show up in my balance. Why is that sooo slow? Confirmations within minutes were advertised...

The block is 1311870044842328791

Is that normal?  

[BloodyRookie]

Stuck again? My last block is 34158.

[mcjavar]

Stuck again? My last block is 34158.

   34172      9433259657262176905      6.1.2014 12:57:18   
0      0 + 0      0 B   
2      16426090641736448978      2784 %

EDIT:

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 13:20:59   
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2      1672536274046803702      3154 %

[Come-from-Beyond]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
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[fmiboy]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
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if block is 34106 and not updating, should I wait... nothing in console window that indicate errors, though?

[rickyjames]

NEWS FLASH : EPIC THOMAS PAYS RESTITUTION

This thread is insane, I am drowning trying to drink from this firehose...

I have news to share and I also need to discuss / understand some of the comments about EpicThomas made since I posted my "interm report".  I have skimmed (and not fully read / digested) these just now trying to catch up.  Let me try to organize this chaotic situation by posting links to the background that I want to talk about:

My first reply to Epic Thomas when he (not me) brought up the subject of restitution (pg 697):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4291567#msg4291567

My "interim report" that summarizes the "four possible scenarios" that we are trying to choose among as being "the truth" (pg 728):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4321533#msg4321533

Discussion of scenario 4 (Stolen NXT is in accounts that NOBODY has passcode for, put there by software bug / unintentional consequences of hacked code):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4328711#msg4328711

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329153#msg4329153

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329460#msg4329460

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329542#msg4329542

So... are we officially now saying Scenario 4 (darkNXT created accidentally during heist) is the lead theory at this point?  THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT because there is a big difference between (1) a hacker that trashed 300K of NXT by accident but only actually accessed accounts of 1K or less NXT (as claimed by EpicThomas here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4271857#msg4271857 ) and  (2) a hacker that has actually does have control of 300K NXT and is denying it while facing the threat of being turned over to the FBI.

I still haven't had time to do a detailed timeline (soon, I promise) but there is still the Framewood loss that occurred before any of EpicThomas's links that comes from either (1) an attack we haven't even identified yet or (2) a darkNXT accident.  EITHER ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS IS UNACCEPTABLY SCARY AND MUST NOT GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

Plus, EpicThomas now says he only posted poisoned links on Dec 31 and not in his earlier "Raspberry Pi" post on Dec 28.  If true, this leaves the smaller 4  transfers to 16204974692852323982 also unexplained.

I know this is all picky details, but THESE DETAILS MATTER.  Not everything that is going on here is attributable to what EpicThomas did on Dec 31.  Something SCARY is going on that we STILL do not understand.  We must not lose sight of this fact.

OK, changing gears here.  My original "interim report" listed all correspondence that has been exchanged between EpicThomas and myself.  Yesterday I got another personal message from him in response to the last message I had sent him.  Here it is:

*********** BEGIN MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ********************


Editing the client is no difficult thing. Everyone with some experience in java could do it, which I was trying to proof.
The developers didn't even try to protect their code.

The client was only posted here in the nxt topic on 31/12.

I don't have a version of the posted client anymore.
The code I changed is still available here on the forum if that is what you need.

I have received the nxt from dgex and I have transferred it to the address you gave me a few days ago.
I hope you will divide this in a fair way amongst the victims.

At this point I am searching for different mirrors of nxt clients to find out who could have done it.
Most mirrors do not exist anymore and the person who took your nxt has probably taken his links down if that is the way he did it.
Still it is the only thing I can do.

Because of the current exchange rate the total will be a bit more then 50k.
I still haven't gotten all of my btc together.


*********** END MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ********************

I can indeed verify (as can anyone using the block explorer at http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34 ) that EpicThomas has sent 47,960 NXT to my account 16092180239932658439 as discussed in the very first link posted above.  For the record, he transferred it out of account 10430154458458844041 which is now at zero.  This apparently came from Dgex, so Graviton could start investigating his cash flow there starting with this account number.  That might turn up something interesting, always follow the money.....

Anyway, now I'm sitting on a bunch of NXT that ain't mine.  Somebody send me a link to the right ratios that were applied to the charity split between the four remaining people who lost NXT (I think PaulyC is whole already, right) and as soon as I get account numbers for them I'll transfer this NXT from EpicThomas to them.

This is a victory, folks.  Celebrate!

This is WAY more in the way of loss recovery than I thought we would ever get out of this situation.

However, it is not enough to fully compensate those besides PaulyC who have suffered losses.  So I am going to repeat what I said in my "interim report" :  I am reading about unclaimed coins about to be distributed here by NXT leaders.  I vote that plasticAiredale, Framewood,  sparta_cuss, and newcn receive sufficient unclaimed coins on top of charity already received to bring their account balances back up to their original starting totals (PaulyC is already there) - particularly if there is a possibility of a bug sending NXT where it is not supposed to go .

Which brings us to the final thing I want to discuss - what is the group feeling on what we should do about EpicThomas in light of the fact that the 300K NXT in the bandit accounts is increasingly looking like darkNXT that he never really had his hands on.   EpicThomas commited a crime, period.  Is paying almost 48K NXT in restitution enough to where we just pillory him verbally in the forum and send him on his way in shame?  Or do you want to go for blood and have me file something officially with the FBI?

[BitcoinForumator]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
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if block is 34106 and not updating, should I wait... nothing in console window that indicate errors, though?

Wait a while, sometimes it takes couple of minutes (maybe a bit longer) to catch up. If it doesn't in more than an hour - then you have to do some other things.

Generely speaking it catches up by itself.