NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[delulo]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
0      0 + 0      0 B   
2      1672536274046803702      3154 %

if block is 34106 and not updating, should I wait... nothing in console window that indicate errors, though?

Wait a while, sometimes it takes couple of minutes to catch up. If it doesn't in more than an hour - then you have to do some other things.

Generely speaking it catches up by itself.

6.1.2014 15:20:59 Mine is due since  03.01.2014 20:32:38
Should I post the transaction # here?

[S3MKi]

Question for mister BCnext.
How do you spend your free time?

[BitcoinForumator]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
0      0 + 0      0 B   
2      1672536274046803702      3154 %

if block is 34106 and not updating, should I wait... nothing in console window that indicate errors, though?

Wait a while, sometimes it takes couple of minutes to catch up. If it doesn't in more than an hour - then you have to do some other things.

Generely speaking it catches up by itself.

6.1.2014 15:20:59 Mine is due since  03.01.2014 20:32:38
Should I post the transaction # here?

Which client are you using? 0.5.0?

[punkrock]

PLEASE DISCUSS THIS POST HERE AT NEXTCOIN.ORG. THANKS!

Dear NXT-community!

Let me announce our first NXT related project called NXTpool.




Who we are?
We are two people from Germany who believe in NXT and we think, we need a trusted pool for all the NXT'rs out there, who haven't enough NXT to forge alone. Since December 2013 we are involved in NXT on different sites, like NeXTcoin.org and BitCoinTalk.org. The admin of NXTpool.net is known as punkrock in the community of crypto currencies. He's also a moderator on NeXTcoin.org and on NXTalk.org.

Why choose Us?
We are running our pools on Linux. The machine will never be used for anything else. All passwords are >100 characters long. Of course, we are using our pools too. Believe us: We will do everything to protect your NXT! At least we are in best contact with the lead developer of the NXT-client, Jean-Luc and we are using only his legit releases.

Developers and coders wanted!
We try to build up NXTpool.net as fast as possible. It's still in beta phase but working 100%. Anyway, there are many things to do. For now we are running NXTPOOL.NET 100% manually and that's a lot of work, but our goal is to run things like "automatic payout after every block" and "automatic easy pool-joining and -leaving". That's our priority. We hope to get enough NXT the next month to pay some developers. If anyone wants to help us for free, you're welcome!

Frequently Asked Questions

When does a pool round starts and ends?
Every round starts on the first of each month, 8pm (CET) and ends 48 hours before the next round starts. Within this 48 hours new NXT'rs will have the chance to join the upcoming round. NXT'rs who don't leave their pool(s), will automatically join the next round. Be sure you do not join a round while it's running - join in within our "48-hours-time-window". Visit our website to check for available pool slots.

How much NXT will I get out of this (profit distribution)?
For example, the third round starts at 2014-04-01, 8pm (CET) and ends at 2014-04-28, 8pm (CET). Every time a pool earned fee in this round, it will be added to the pool and at the end of the round, every pool member who joined the round before it started, will get % of all earned fees.

Examples of profit distribution

• If a pool round has 5 members at starting time, you'll get 20% of all earned fees at  the end of the round.
• If a pool round has 10 members at starting time, you'll get 10% of all earned fees at  the end of the round.
• If a pool round has 50 members at starting time, you'll get 2% of all earned fees at  the end of the round.
• If a pool round has 100 members at starting time, you'll get 1% of all earned fees at  the end of the round.

What if I join a pool while a round is running?
Don't do that. That's a problem we are working on. In the future we hope to make this all automatically (developers and coders contact us!). For now, we are running the pools 100% manually. To make it fair for all NXT'rs, who joined a pool round within the "48-hour-time-window", we can not consider your deposit for a running round if you join a round while it's already running. So make sure, you send your NXT within the "48-hour-time-window". To make it easy for all of you, every round starts on the first of each month at 8pm (CET). Of course you can get your money back, if you want... minus a fee of 100 NXT (1 NXT regular fee and 99 NXT allowance).

Is it possible to leave a pool round whenever I want to?
Yes, it's possible, but you will get no earned fees. You'll only get your send money back... minus a fee of 100 NXT (1 NXT regular fee and 99 NXT allowance).


Contact and discussion
Facebook | Twitter | YouTube | Reddit | E-Mail

NOTICE: We are in beta phase. If you have any questions, suggestions or want to join our team (developers and coders), feel free to send a PM or mail us.

PLEASE DISCUSS THIS POST HERE AT NEXTCOIN.ORG. THANKS!

[TwinWinNerD]

NEWS FLASH : EPIC THOMAS PAYS RESTITUTION

This thread is insane, I am drowning trying to drink from this firehose...

I have news to share and I also need to discuss / understand some of the comments about EpicThomas made since I posted my "interm report".  I have skimmed (and not fully read / digested) these just now trying to catch up.  Let me try to organize this chaotic situation by posting links to the background that I want to talk about:

My first reply to Epic Thomas when he (not me) brought up the subject of restitution (pg 697):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4291567#msg4291567

My "interim report" that summarizes the "four possible scenarios" that we are trying to choose among as being "the truth" (pg 728):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4321533#msg4321533

Discussion of scenario 4 (Stolen NXT is in accounts that NOBODY has passcode for, put there by software bug / unintentional consequences of hacked code):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4328711#msg4328711

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329153#msg4329153

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329460#msg4329460

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329542#msg4329542

So... are we officially now saying Scenario 4 (darkNXT created accidentally during heist) is the lead theory at this point?  THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT because there is a big difference between (1) a hacker that trashed 300K of NXT by accident but only actually accessed accounts of 1000K or less (as claimed by EpicThomas here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4271857#msg4271857 ) and  (2) a hacker that has actually does have control of 300K NXT and is denying it while facing the threat of being turned over to the FBI.

I still haven't had time to do a detailed timeline (soon, I promise) but there is still the Framewood loss that occurred before any of EpicThomas's links that comes from either (1) an attack we haven't either identified yet or (2) a darkNXT accident.  EITHER ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS IS UNACCEPTABLY SCARY AND MUST NOT GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

Plus, EpicThomas now says he only posted poisoned links on Dec 31 and not in his earlier "Raspberry Pi" post on Dec 28.  If true, this leaves the smaller 4  transfers to also unexplained.

I know this is all picky details, but THESE DETAILS MATTER.  Not everything that is going on here is attributable to what EpicThomas did on Dec 31.  Something SCARY is going on that we STILL do not understand.  We must not lose sight of this fact.

OK, changing gears here.  My original "interim report" listed all correspondence that has been exchanged between EpicThomas and myself.  Yesterday I got another personal message from him in response to the last message I had sent him.  Here it is:

*********** BEGIN MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ********************


Editing the client is no difficult thing. Everyone with some experience in java could do it, which I was trying to proof.
The developers didn't even try to protect their code.

The client was only posted here in the nxt topic on 31/12.

I don't have a version of the posted client anymore.
The code I changed is still available here on the forum if that is what you need.

I have received the nxt from dgex and I have transferred it to the address you gave me a few days ago.
I hope you will divide this in a fair way amongst the victims.

At this point I am searching for different mirrors of nxt clients to find out who could have done it.
Most mirrors do not exist anymore and the person who took your nxt has probably taken his links down if that is the way he did it.
Still it is the only thing I can do.

Because of the current exchange rate the total will be a bit more then 50k.
I still haven't gotten all of my btc together.


*********** END MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ********************

I can indeed verify (as can anyone using the block explorer at http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34 ) that EpicThomas has sent 47,960 NXT to my account 16092180239932658439 as discussed in the very first link posted above.  For the record, he transferred it out of account 10430154458458844041 which is now at zero.  This apparently came from Dgex, so Graviton could start investigating his cash flow there starting with this account number.  That might turn up something interesting, always follow the money.....

Anyway, now I'm sitting on a bunch of NXT that ain't mine.  Somebody send me a link to the right ratios that were applied to the charity split between the four remaining people who lost NXT (I think PaulyC is whole already, right) and as soon as I get account numbers for them I'll transfer this NXT from EpicThomas to them.

This is a victory, folks.  Celebrate!

This is WAY more in the way of loss recovery than I thought we would ever get out of this situation.

However, it is not enough to fully compensate those besides PaulyC who have suffered losses.  So I am going to repeat what I said in my "interim report" :  I am reading about unclaimed coins about to be distributed here by NXT leaders.  I vote that plasticAiredale, Framewood,  sparta_cuss, and newcn receive sufficient unclaimed coins on top of charity already received to bring their account balances back up to their original starting totals (PaulyC is already there) - particularly if there is a possibility of a bug sending NXT where it is not supposed to go .

Which brings us to the final thing I want to discuss - what is the group feeling on what we should do about EpicThomas in light of the fact that the 300K NXT in the bandit accounts is increasingly looking like darkNXT that he never really had his hands on.   EpicThomas commited a crime, period.  Is paying almost 48K NXT in restitution enough to where we just pillory him verbally in the forum and send him on his way in shame?  Or do you want to go for blood and have me file something officially with the FBI?

epic !!!

good job sir

[delulo]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
0      0 + 0      0 B   
2      1672536274046803702      3154 %

if block is 34106 and not updating, should I wait... nothing in console window that indicate errors, though?

Wait a while, sometimes it takes couple of minutes to catch up. If it doesn't in more than an hour - then you have to do some other things.

Generely speaking it catches up by itself.

6.1.2014 15:20:59 Mine is due since  03.01.2014 20:32:38
Should I post the transaction # here?

Which client are you using? 0.5.0?

It is 0.4.7e

[BitcoinForumator]

34185      4747512364439223888      6.1.2014 15:20:59   
0      0 + 0      0 B   
2      1672536274046803702      3154 %

if block is 34106 and not updating, should I wait... nothing in console window that indicate errors, though?

Wait a while, sometimes it takes couple of minutes to catch up. If it doesn't in more than an hour - then you have to do some other things.

Generely speaking it catches up by itself.

6.1.2014 15:20:59 Mine is due since  03.01.2014 20:32:38
Should I post the transaction # here?

Which client are you using? 0.5.0?

It is 0.4.7e

Download the 0.5.0 from the first page of this thread (you might also check the SHA), unzip it into a new folder, make a start.bat and run it. Then let it refresh the chain.

[S3MKi]

Please VOTE for Adding NxT @Cryptsy here
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44434

[BitcoinForumator]

Please VOTE for Adding NxT @Cryptsy here
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44434

This voting has no effect. Cryptsy needs something else to make it happen.

[bitcoinrocks]

Nice work rickyjames!

EpicThomas commited a crime, period.  Is paying almost 48K NXT in restitution enough to where we just pillory him verbally in the forum and send him on his way in shame?  Or do you want to go for blood and have me file something officially with the FBI?

If he paid up, I say let him go.

[S3MKi]

Please VOTE for Adding NxT @Cryptsy here
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44434

This voting has no effect. Cryptsy needs something else to make it happen.

doge added. why not nxt?

[yan83]

OK

[BitcoinForumator]

Please VOTE for Adding NxT @Cryptsy here
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44434

This voting has no effect. Cryptsy needs something else to make it happen.

doge added. why not nxt?

Good question. I don't know why, but there was mention that the owner doesn't add it because of the lack of source code. (well now it's out - but partially)

But anyways - the votes obviously aren't the lacking thing. It's being upvoted a lot.

Who knows what the real reason is, it's up to a whim of BigVern.

[fmiboy]

is it ever gonna catch up?



note: no error message from cmd

[ImmortAlex]

34194      10707482695518048392      6 Янвapь 2014 г. 19:33:53   
2      2 + 2      265 B   
2      10162284549313093170      6845 %

We are forking again...

[BitcoinForumator]

34194      10707482695518048392      6 Янвapь 2014 г. 19:33:53   
2      2 + 2      265 B   
2      10162284549313093170      6845 %

We are forking again...

      
34216      10105875265190846103      6/1/2014 14:01:45   
2      5'003 + 6      256 B   
2      4081154459444164372      5730 %

[starik69]

Why base target is 10x higher today?

[NxtChg]

@BCNext: When will address checksums be implemented? Do you prefer to do it with 8,000 or 80,000 users? (Last one doesn't count, it's rhetorical).

[jl777]

NEWS FLASH : EPIC THOMAS PAYS RESTITUTION

This thread is insane, I am drowning trying to drink from this firehose...

I have news to share and I also need to discuss / understand some of the comments about EpicThomas made since I posted my "interm report".  I have skimmed (and not fully read / digested) these just now trying to catch up.  Let me try to organize this chaotic situation by posting links to the background that I want to talk about:

My first reply to Epic Thomas when he (not me) brought up the subject of restitution (pg 697):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4291567#msg4291567

My "interim report" that summarizes the "four possible scenarios" that we are trying to choose among as being "the truth" (pg 728):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4321533#msg4321533

Discussion of scenario 4 (Stolen NXT is in accounts that NOBODY has passcode for, put there by software bug / unintentional consequences of hacked code):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4328711#msg4328711

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329153#msg4329153

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329460#msg4329460

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329542#msg4329542

So... are we officially now saying Scenario 4 (darkNXT created accidentally during heist) is the lead theory at this point?  THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT because there is a big difference between (1) a hacker that trashed 300K of NXT by accident but only actually accessed accounts of 1000K or less (as claimed by EpicThomas here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4271857#msg4271857 ) and  (2) a hacker that has actually does have control of 300K NXT and is denying it while facing the threat of being turned over to the FBI.

I still haven't had time to do a detailed timeline (soon, I promise) but there is still the Framewood loss that occurred before any of EpicThomas's links that comes from either (1) an attack we haven't either identified yet or (2) a darkNXT accident.  EITHER ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS IS UNACCEPTABLY SCARY AND MUST NOT GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

Plus, EpicThomas now says he only posted poisoned links on Dec 31 and not in his earlier "Raspberry Pi" post on Dec 28.  If true, this leaves the smaller 4  transfers to 16204974692852323982 also unexplained.

I know this is all picky details, but THESE DETAILS MATTER.  Not everything that is going on here is attributable to what EpicThomas did on Dec 31.  Something SCARY is going on that we STILL do not understand.  We must not lose sight of this fact.

OK, changing gears here.  My original "interim report" listed all correspondence that has been exchanged between EpicThomas and myself.  Yesterday I got another personal message from him in response to the last message I had sent him.  Here it is:

*********** BEGIN MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ********************


Editing the client is no difficult thing. Everyone with some experience in java could do it, which I was trying to proof.
The developers didn't even try to protect their code.

The client was only posted here in the nxt topic on 31/12.

I don't have a version of the posted client anymore.
The code I changed is still available here on the forum if that is what you need.

I have received the nxt from dgex and I have transferred it to the address you gave me a few days ago.
I hope you will divide this in a fair way amongst the victims.

At this point I am searching for different mirrors of nxt clients to find out who could have done it.
Most mirrors do not exist anymore and the person who took your nxt has probably taken his links down if that is the way he did it.
Still it is the only thing I can do.

Because of the current exchange rate the total will be a bit more then 50k.
I still haven't gotten all of my btc together.


*********** END MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ********************

I can indeed verify (as can anyone using the block explorer at http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34 ) that EpicThomas has sent 47,960 NXT to my account 16092180239932658439 as discussed in the very first link posted above.  For the record, he transferred it out of account 10430154458458844041 which is now at zero.  This apparently came from Dgex, so Graviton could start investigating his cash flow there starting with this account number.  That might turn up something interesting, always follow the money.....

Anyway, now I'm sitting on a bunch of NXT that ain't mine.  Somebody send me a link to the right ratios that were applied to the charity split between the four remaining people who lost NXT (I think PaulyC is whole already, right) and as soon as I get account numbers for them I'll transfer this NXT from EpicThomas to them.

This is a victory, folks.  Celebrate!

This is WAY more in the way of loss recovery than I thought we would ever get out of this situation.

However, it is not enough to fully compensate those besides PaulyC who have suffered losses.  So I am going to repeat what I said in my "interim report" :  I am reading about unclaimed coins about to be distributed here by NXT leaders.  I vote that plasticAiredale, Framewood,  sparta_cuss, and newcn receive sufficient unclaimed coins on top of charity already received to bring their account balances back up to their original starting totals (PaulyC is already there) - particularly if there is a possibility of a bug sending NXT where it is not supposed to go .

Which brings us to the final thing I want to discuss - what is the group feeling on what we should do about EpicThomas in light of the fact that the 300K NXT in the bandit accounts is increasingly looking like darkNXT that he never really had his hands on.   EpicThomas commited a crime, period.  Is paying almost 48K NXT in restitution enough to where we just pillory him verbally in the forum and send him on his way in shame?  Or do you want to go for blood and have me file something officially with the FBI?

It is quite possible that the thief(s) have the passwords to the darkNXT accts and are waiting for the heat (you) to cool down and then activate the accts with the keys they have used to generate the acct numbers. Until that happens, it is not possible to know whether it is truly darkNXT, so these are unconfirmed darkNXT.

This is why I suggested to freeze these accts for a while until we get to the bottom of the true mystery. However, from what I have seen, there is reluctance to set a precedent of freezing an acct for whatever reasons, even this.

James

[S3MKi]

is it ever gonna catch up?



note: no error message from cmd

f5?