NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[achimsmile]

consider mine! 

Ur 889362800 looks similar to my 800913308

At least we know all cool addresses start with an 8 and have 9 digits  

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[nxtru]

Please point me where you found "Exposing the private key" phrase, I can't see it.

his claim is that since the public key is a curve25519 hash of the private key that it is exposed.   

Yes exactly.  You guess the private key "since it was created by a human", then you crack the account.   That is why there are so many Nxt accounts that get cracked.  You don't even need to do the cracking against the network,  you just do it against the public block chain.

If the developers don't think this is fundamentally broken,  then I really question their judgement.

There are 100000NXT on account id 100000; it doesn't even have public key in the blockchain (2^64 security instead of 2^256).
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=100000

Go, get it.

[starik69]

nxt: 6666386410
(50 NXT if you can beat this vanity acct)

I bet ur account. Send 50 NXT to 800913308 plz.

http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=decodeToken&website=&token=rgoq0m7lg2g349ok1kv93g8arpqh4uo66r7rgb0std9tvmfeb7d8k8kvckd2vl0019hb5ge1l35cl82fenfqnuao911a6egpc7p1bh9dm4s09lf4g5bddn1kugca3jgh62ahfogi9iartjs5f0kn3sc5s4v36og8

OK Ill pay, but I dont think you beat me.  Not with FOUR consecutive leading 6's there.

for the record, I also have 180261721 but elected to not use it for the contest as I believe 6666386410 is superior to it as well

give me a bit to figure out my BTER account

I have 920318146, haven't "verified" it yet though. I won't forget to brag when I'll find something more cool.

Hehe you sent some NXT to your account right after me gimre http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=33

I have 878890562, and revealed my public key. I swear i found the password for #727445544 but I lost the password   such a beauty

consider mine!  

What about 222224265785 ? 

[Damelon]

Go, get it.

It's Friday and I'm lazy, so no. 

[xyzzyx]

Go, get it.

It's Friday and I'm lazy, so no.  

could you do it? if you wanted to?

if so will you tell me how? :L that 100k wud make a nice addition to my crumbs! :L

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  
2. Form a darkNXT mining pool.
3. ? ? ? ?
4. Profit!

[Come-from-Beyond]

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

[nexern]

how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable.
(compared to other alt coins clients which are between 20-50 times larger by less functionality)
the client is sdi based, means only the center hup starts folded, subcategories unfold on demand. all others windows can be arranged as desired. this saves screen space.
atm i am re-composing the gui to adding a native screenshot function to the client, means every important form (like send/balance etc.) has an screen button, dumping
the whole dialog content into a clean rendered png image. here is a send funds png created by this function.

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/send-screen.png

here is a 1:1 screenshot with offense coloring from the complete app-hub (including a small gui bug) ;-)

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/nxt-hub-screen.png

the user can change the colors later via textfile. atm i am using the dark color scheme, just prefer high contrast and good viewable fonts
when acting with funds. some screens can folded or doing this on demand. the client is not ready yet but i am working hard to finish the dev asap.
the distributed application/smart contract logic took me 5 days which was planed for AE but i am simply eager to show the first real running protoype
by nxt while others concepting. with release, a fully functional quoteboard DNA prototype will be included. 
during test, the remotly executed and sandboxed DNA sourcecode will be hosted on blockexplorer node but could be located everywhere. AM is used
for payment and access signaling. not every workflow is solved for DNA, this needs a little more brainstorming but i am confident nxt will run the first one.

[FrictionlessCoin]

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

For Java you have:  http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/

Sigh... yes you can indeed mine Nxt.

[Agent86]

the fact that its THERE though.  at the very front. accomplishes the same function

No, it doesn't. It will ruin vanity generators ("NJOHN-1234" instead of "NXT-JOHN-1234") and it will look like part of a random string in all other cases:
NFKJ4-FSE5-56SF-FSJR6V
N9G7J-G2JK-L6O9-7DR7VK

I dont particularly care for the N prefix AT ALL.  but if we absolutely MUST then please just make it part of the address, with no dash.  it removes the balance of the address.

We don't have to. The prefix is optional, thus it can be "NXT-". If you prefer short addresses you just don't add it at all. Probably will be an option in clients.

I think an optional prefix "NXT-" is a little redundant/pointless.  The point of "branding" to my mind is not so that someone sees "NXT" in an address and wonders what "NXT" is.  It's for current users, I don't think it matters that the "N" looks part of a random address string, because by the time you've sent NXT 5 times you will figure out that all NXT addresses start with "N".  What this accomplishes is that people who become familiar with NXT will tend to recognize a NXT address when they see one.

That said, it seems people are more comfortable leaving it off, which is fine, maybe for the best.

I think at some point it's best if a new address format gets integrated more than just at the client level.

[Come-from-Beyond]

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

FC never changes... *facepalm*

[TwinWinNerD]

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

For Java you have:  http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/

Sigh... yes you can indeed mine Nxt.

you can, but it isn't profitable just now... and in the future when it might be, we can use some workarnounds for new accounts without outgoing transactions (like a broadcastPublickey without outgoing transaction)

[Damelon]

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

FC never changes... *facepalm*

Would you really want him to?

[TwinWinNerD]

Funny thing. Lyaffe made a challenge with guessing a passphrase https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3718.0.html

I decided to simplify rules, created an account with simple passphrase and sent 100 Nxt to that account. The passphrase was an answer to the question: "I'm a big fun of soap operas and have no idea about security.". Guess what. Someone stole 100 Nxt before I even managed to post the question

What the hell? How is that possible?

It is already known that there is a bot running that checks the balances of very simple passwords. If you send some NXT to accounts of passphrases "1" or smthg, it will be gone within 45 seconds!

This is really scary.  There is apparently a continuous, ongoing attack against NXT looking for weak passwords.  There is no way to know how many hackers are doing this or how much computer horsepower is being directed towards this because the attack can be run offline against a copy of the blockchain.  Every day we are signing up 100 users on average and we are hoping to get many, many more.  NEW USERS ARE NOT BEING TOLD OFTEN ENOUGH OR STRONGLY ENOUGH ABOUT THE IMPORTACE OF A LOOOONG RANDOM PASSWORD.  Every day new users are coming in and using a short password and immediately lose their NXT just like dzarmush did.  

They do not put a happy smile after their experience.

They do not put a happy smile after their experience.  

They do not put a happy smile after their experience.  

I truly believe that one of the biggest threats to NXT is word of mouth about poor security.  "Yeah, I tried to buy some NXT, it was stolen in 24 hours, better steer clear of that coin..."

That kind of talk - and the poor security hygiene that precipitate it - needs to be nipped in the bud NOW.  We only get a fresh reputation once - and people are losing NXT at an alarming rate, at least it seems that way to me.

Some day when I am all caught up (ha ha ha) I want to start a Wiki page listing every known past instance of lost NXT and have new users record their experiences on what happened to them in some kind of table.  This is data we need to be accumulating.

You say that it is scary, but that is exactely what is happening with BTC and the brainwallet apllication. Someone created huge rainbowtables and runs a bot that detects incoming tx and just sweaps all accounts. Everything that is shorter than 12-14 digits ist just sweapt within <0.5 seconds.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Would you really want him to?

Sometimes I hope he will join the light side of the Force...

[pocesar]

There's one guy at one address (4747512364439223888) with 50 million NXT, creating block after block... not really fair I guess, but neither is Bitcoin mining.

check in http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=100

[nexern]

how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

Looking good! 

...change "Reciever" to Receiver and "ALiases" to Aliases...

thx smaragda, i think a native speaker has to check the language file later.
just now i am just typing the labels quickly into the language file. ;-)

[xyzzyx]

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

For Java you have:  http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/

Sigh... yes you can indeed mine Nxt.

CUDA would work too, but would be slower I think.

Good thing you can PoW mine darkNXT; it's not lost forever.

[nakaone]

how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable.
(compared to other alt coins clients which are between 20-50 times larger by less functionality)
the client is sdi based, means only the center hup starts folded, subcategories unfold on demand. all others windows can be arranged as desired. this saves screen space.
atm i am re-composing the gui to adding a native screenshot function to the client, means every important form (like send/balance etc.) has an screen button, dumping
the whole dialog content into a clean rendered png image. here is a send funds png created by this function.

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/send-screen.png

here is a 1:1 screenshot with offense coloring from the complete app-hub (including a small gui bug) ;-)

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/nxt-hub-screen.png

the user can change the colors later via textfile. atm i am using the dark color scheme, just prefer high contrast and good viewable fonts
when acting with funds. some screens can folded or doing this on demand. the client is not ready yet but i am working hard to finish the dev asap.
the distributed application/smart contract logic took me 5 days which was planed for AE but i am simply eager to show the first real running protoype
by nxt while others concepting. with release, a fully functional quoteboard DNA prototype will be included. 
during test, the remotly executed and sandboxed DNA sourcecode will be hosted on blockexplorer node but could be located everywhere. AM is used
for payment and access signaling. not every workflow is solved for DNA, this needs a little more brainstorming but i am confident nxt will run the first one.

great news, when do you expect it to be finished and released?

maybe we should also add a countdown on our main page

[Come-from-Beyond]

There's one guy at one address with 50 million NXT, creating block after block... not really fair I guess, but neither is Bitcoin mining.

4747? He is waiting for Asset Exchange. At least he said so.

[bitcoinpaul]

how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable. ...

Yes!