What does the bible say about Bitcoin?

[AnonyMint]

Believing a report from a credible source, on a fact that does not violate reproducible laws of nature is not the same as believing a report from an anonymous source, that does violate reproducible laws of nature.

Laws that are aliasing error based on an inability to sample below Planck's constant. That can't explain what matter is, nor what the edge of the universe isn't.

What is outside the universe know-it-all?

[MoonShadow]

Nuclear Winter

Jesus stars in Fallout 4.

Fallout 4: The Second Coming...

"I come not with peace, but with the sword..."

[QuestionAuthority]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

You analytical fuckers are picking apart a joke. *facepalm*

It's as amusing to myself to dissect your jokes as it is for you to ridicule my belief system.

I just saw this and first let me say sorry for the Jesus joke. I had no idea you were one of those or I would have enjoyed the joke much more than I did.

I have to ask you a question since I now know your bias. How do you rationalize supporting what could be considered the one world financial system that will come about at the end of days?

"He (the false prophet) was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast (antichrist), so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand (private key?) or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number.

[hilariousandco]

Bibles are in the Myths & Folklore section of my local libraries , but one time I saw one had been (incorrectly) put in the autobiography section  .

[MoonShadow]

I have to ask you a question since I now know your bias. How do you rationalize supporting what could be considered the one world financial system that will come about at the end of days?

"He (the false prophet) was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast (antichrist), so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand (private key?) or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number.

The mark is an involuntary system.  Bitcoin is, by it's nature, entirely voluntary and without coercion.  Bitcoin isn't the mark.

That's assuming that I beleive that Revelations should be taken literally.  I do not.  I'm a gnostic christian, not a literalist.  Revelations is better understood if it's read as an allegory for personal death in the context of the early church experiencing a very real persecution from government, written in a kind of jargon 'code' that wouldn't imply to those same government agents that the author was actually discussing current or near term events.  The 'mark' or 'number of the beast' (666) happens to match the written character consents of the full name of the Roman emperor of the time, and that was a trick of identification that would have been somewhat familiar to Christian Jews at the time.  In short, I don't agree that Revelations was actually prophetic, but was a mass communications tool that was deliberately disguised to appear prophetic.  I would consider the (Expanded) Book of Daniel and the Book of Enoch to be the most prophetic of the books of the Bible, and I don't consider the Bible to be complete without the Apocrypha taken into consideration, dispite their dubious authorship and difficult read.  Nor do I consider all the books of the canon to be of equal value, as I think that each should be considered individually.  This is what makes me 'gnostic' (in search of the knowledge), and means that I don't believe in the Doctrine of Divine Preservation.  To me, each book, it's authorship, history and translatoins stand alone.

[QuestionAuthority]

Well that is fascinating. You are attempting to create your own version of Christianity through study. I suppose that's the way all offshoots of it started. Last I read there were over 40,000 different sects of Christianity in the world. With each person interpreting it the way they see fit then I can understand why. I don't dismiss religion without at least attempting to understand it. That's a foolhardy exercise performed by young people because religion gets in the way of getting laid while high on something illegal which seems to be the preferred lifestyle choice today. Basic theology should be a requirement in primary education worldwide. If your going to dismiss anything you should at least understand it first.

I do agree with you that even Christians shouldn't take the bible literally. If you want to use it as a group of parables to help you make sound moral decisions that is less damaging than what people actually use it for in most circumstances. Religions that are used to pass judgment on the lifestyle of others are as dangerous to me as a dictator poised for war. Just as many lives have been destroyed or ended with religion.

Christianity uses the fear of overpowering reprisal to curb behavior. When I was young I listened to older Christians talk about the United Nations as being the beast with seven heads and ten horns. They actually believed that a 2k year old ragtag collection of parables could predict the end of the world today. That's as foolish as believing in Nostradamus. In order to have Bitcoin fit into the role of the one world financial system it does not have to currently be an involuntary system. All it needs to be is a system that unifies the world under one monetary system. It can be perverted into an involuntary system once it's in place and the beast rises to power. Or perhaps it can be the training exercise necessary to teach the world how to use a one world financial system and be replaced with something similar in the near future.  

[MoonShadow]

I do agree with you that even Christians shouldn't take the bible literally. If you want to use it as a group of parables to help you make sound moral decisions that is less damaging than what people actually use it for in most circumstances. Religions that are used to pass judgment on the lifestyle of others are as dangerous to me as a dictator poised for war. Just as many lives have been destroyed or ended with religion.

I didn't say that I don't take any part of it literally. 

In order to have Bitcoin fit into the role of the one world financial system it does not have to currently be an involuntary system. All it needs to be is a system that unifies the world under one monetary system. It can be perverted into an involuntary system once it's in place and the beast rises to power. Or perhaps it can be the training exercise necessary to teach the world how to use a one world financial system and be replaced with something similar in the near future.  

Since that is an impossibility without coercion, the rest is irrelevent.  Bitcoin cannot be the mark; and as I already mentioned, I don't even condsider "the mark" to be an actual prophesy, so the interpretation regarding control of commerce (which was very relevent to the Roman Empire during the first century A.D.) is not relevent to Bitcoin, the United Nations, or the United States Federal Reserve.  It's Daniel that predicts the (repeated) rise of Israel as a nation with actual borders, and Enoch perhaps as well (in the prophesy of the ages of humanity).  I don't consider actual prophesy to be at all common, and it should be suspect (even th ebible itself says this) but I don't consider prophesy to be impossible either.  Of course, those same prophesies (both in Daniel and Enoch) arent' very useful except in hindsight, as the only thing that they are really good for is establishing the (divine?) creditials of the author to a distant generation.

[pand70]

What is the main religion in china? Budism? I think we should check what budism says about bitcoin because things don't look over there lately 

[QuestionAuthority]

I do agree with you that even Christians shouldn't take the bible literally. If you want to use it as a group of parables to help you make sound moral decisions that is less damaging than what people actually use it for in most circumstances. Religions that are used to pass judgment on the lifestyle of others are as dangerous to me as a dictator poised for war. Just as many lives have been destroyed or ended with religion.

I didn't say that I don't take any part of it literally. 

In order to have Bitcoin fit into the role of the one world financial system it does not have to currently be an involuntary system. All it needs to be is a system that unifies the world under one monetary system. It can be perverted into an involuntary system once it's in place and the beast rises to power. Or perhaps it can be the training exercise necessary to teach the world how to use a one world financial system and be replaced with something similar in the near future.  

Since that is an impossibility without coercion, the rest is irrelevent.  Bitcoin cannot be the mark; and as I already mentioned, I don't even condsider "the mark" to be an actual prophesy, so the interpretation regarding control of commerce (which was very relevent to the Roman Empire during the first century A.D.) is not relevent to Bitcoin, the United Nations, or the United States Federal Reserve.  It's Daniel that predicts the (repeated) rise of Israel as a nation with actual borders, and Enoch perhaps as well (in the prophesy of the ages of humanity).  I don't consider actual prophesy to be at all common, and it should be suspect (even th ebible itself says this) but I don't consider prophesy to be impossible either.  Of course, those same prophesies (both in Daniel and Enoch) arent' very useful except in hindsight, as the only thing that they are really good for is establishing the (divine?) creditials of the author to a distant generation.

No, Bitcoin doesn't have to be the mark in it's current form. The successor to Bitcoin could be. Come on Moonshadow, you know coercion will be a part of it just as coercion through groupthink is used on this forum to steer non believers into the gospel/doctrine of Bitcoin. Control of commerce has been relevant to every government since the dawn of man it's not specific to the ancient Roman Empire. I don't believe any of this bullshit either but I bet there are tens of thousands of Christians that I could convince. You are a unique believer in that you are not swayed by every wind of doctrine and don't take the sermon from the pulpit literally. Many do.

[MarKusRomanus]

Yes The Bible does say Bitcon is a sin.. you just have to read it the right way.  For anyone who wishes to find redemption and wash away their bitcoin sin, I am willing to take the bullet and go to hell for you.  Simply dump that devil spawn bitcoin you own into the wallet in my signature.

[MoonShadow]

No, Bitcoin doesn't have to be the mark in it's current form. The successor to Bitcoin could be. Come on Moonshadow, you know coercion will be a part of it just as coercion through groupthink is used on this forum to steer non believers into the gospel/doctrine of Bitcoin.

Peer pressure, whatever you call it, is not coercion.  Coercion is the use of force, as in enforcement of monetary laws.  The general opinion of a (largely) anonymous forum, whether or not you agree with that "groupthink" (it's called Bitcointalk, after all.  There's obviously a bias.), is not force.  All they can do is ignore your commentary.  Which happens to be what most of us do to you, Question.

 Control of commerce has been relevant to every government since the dawn of man it's not specific to the ancient Roman Empire.

That's the great innovation of bitcoin, as mass adoption of bitcoin would make government control of commerce much more difficult than it already is.  That is no small thing.

 I don't believe any of this bullshit either but I bet there are tens of thousands of Christians that I could convince. You are a unique believer in that you are not swayed by every wind of doctrine and don't take the sermon from the pulpit literally. Many do.

Oh, I know that.  A great many of those same people consider me a heretic as well.

[QuestionAuthority]

No, Bitcoin doesn't have to be the mark in it's current form. The successor to Bitcoin could be. Come on Moonshadow, you know coercion will be a part of it just as coercion through groupthink is used on this forum to steer non believers into the gospel/doctrine of Bitcoin.

Peer pressure, whatever you call it, is not coercion.  Coercion is the use of force, as in enforcement of monetary laws.  The general opinion of a (largely) anonymous forum, whether or not you agree with that "groupthink" (it's called Bitcointalk, after all.  There's obviously a bias.), is not force.  All they can do is ignore your commentary.  Which happens to be what most of us do to you, Question.

 Control of commerce has been relevant to every government since the dawn of man it's not specific to the ancient Roman Empire.

That's the great innovation of bitcoin, as mass adoption of bitcoin would make government control of commerce much more difficult than it already is.  That is no small thing.

 I don't believe any of this bullshit either but I bet there are tens of thousands of Christians that I could convince. You are a unique believer in that you are not swayed by every wind of doctrine and don't take the sermon from the pulpit literally. Many do.

Oh, I know that.  A great many of those same people consider me a heretic as well.

Force is a state of mind. It comes in many forms. Patriotism seems to be the strongest and will actually make young people commit suicide for their government. You're still missing my point. Bitcoin could be the precursor to the final iteration that will be sanctioned by government. The way the masses here scream for the government to step in after every new scam they are obviously in favor of more government control. If that weren't true they would just shut up and take their beating. Yes, I can see you being considered a heretic by the mainstream Christians.

Oh, and thank you and the rest of the mods for ignoring me. Without that complacency I would have been gone long ago.

[VforVictory]

Yes The Bible does say Bitcon is a sin.. you just have to read it the right way.  For anyone who wishes to find redemption and wash away their bitcoin sin, I am willing to take the bullet and go to hell for you.  Simply dump that devil spawn bitcoin you own into the wallet in my signature.

Do you also give out indulgences?

[MoonShadow]

Oh, and thank you and the rest of the mods for ignoring me. Without that complacency I would have been gone long ago.

That wasn't complacency, that was willful restraint. 

[Desensitizer]

If this did not have religious implications no-one would be humoring this guy with responses. Of course not.

[QuestionAuthority]

Oh, and thank you and the rest of the mods for ignoring me. Without that complacency I would have been gone long ago.

That wasn't complacency, that was willful restraint. 

I hope you're not just saying that to make me happy!  180,000 members or so, at least 30% of them are different people, half of those are scammers and I'm the problem. I feel honored. lol

[redwraith]

Hahaha, I am sorry, I don't usually hate on threads, but this has to be one of the pointless threads I've ever seen.  What was going through your mind OP when you started it.  Were you just bored?  Was it divine inspiration?  Did a banker convince you that bicoins are, in the literal sense, the devil?

I'm pretty sure Gabriella is a paid shill.  Just look at his/her past posts.

[BitDreams]

The bible and Bitcoin both have a genesis block, are semi-anonymous, and are hard to understand.

The central characters in both have disappeared.

Quoting this so I remember it!

[speedtrader]

If Judas were alive today he would gladly exchange those thirty shekels for bitcoins.

[hilariousandco]

If Judas were alive today he would gladly exchange those thirty shekels for bitcoins.

There's already been a Bitcoin Judas bag to put them in:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298793.0