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December 16, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
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The difficulty has reached really high. Coin might be added soon to a exchange site.

Showing about 1600... Not too bad for being mined for 8 days.

Why would the difficulty dictate making it to an exchange?
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December 16, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
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I am selling 1920 frozens, the whole pack for 4 LTC
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December 16, 2013, 09:34:54 PM
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Another pool has been added to the main topic.

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December 16, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
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Another pool has been added to the main topic.

Whats the ETA on the site being back up?
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December 16, 2013, 10:19:22 PM
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The difficulty has reached really high. Coin might be added soon to a exchange site.

Showing about 1600... Not too bad for being mined for 8 days.

Why would the difficulty dictate making it to an exchange?

We might meet kind of a "flawed" logic here that a high difficulty ^= scarcity. A coin that is hard to produce and has limited supply reaches a higher price than one that doesn't. If your coin isn't made popular by a group of 14-year-old teenage kids (not looking at any coin specifically, of course), then you should at least have the point in theoretical value implied by scarcity, which means that your coin has a potential value and should thus be traded. This isn't necessary for jumping onto an exchange but might turn out as an important factor.
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December 16, 2013, 10:38:55 PM
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Currently have 5K FZ for sale, asking 25 LTC or BTC equivalent.

Why so much? Several reasons.

1) Difficulty is now high enough that my mining rates are plummeting. In another week I will probably be putting all of my machines back to directly mining LTC.
2) Potential to be listed on an exchange soon means price may suddenly jump 5X or more.
3) Drop in value of LTC/BTC.
4) About 1/3 as many FZ ever as there are current QRK, and QRK is valued at $0.12; I expect FZ to hit $0.50 before the end of 2014.
5) Desire to keep mined FZ vs. sell for current profits.

So, if you're interested, PM me. I will transfer 1/2 of coins first, receive LTC/BTC for that half, then transfer second half.

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December 16, 2013, 11:11:26 PM
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Currently have 5K FZ for sale, asking 25 LTC or BTC equivalent.

Why so much? Several reasons.

1) Difficulty is now high enough that my mining rates are plummeting. In another week I will probably be putting all of my machines back to directly mining LTC.
2) Potential to be listed on an exchange soon means price may suddenly jump 5X or more.
3) Drop in value of LTC/BTC.
4) About 1/3 as many FZ ever as there are current QRK, and QRK is valued at $0.12; I expect FZ to hit $0.50 before the end of 2014.
5) Desire to keep mined FZ vs. sell for current profits.

So, if you're interested, PM me. I will transfer 1/2 of coins first, receive LTC/BTC for that half, then transfer second half.

There are 247Million QRK. There will be 7M Fz. Thats 1/32 as many, not 1/3, making it much more rare. Also QRK will continue to generate every year and Fz will be done after the last block is mined.
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December 16, 2013, 11:31:55 PM
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Another pool has been added to the main topic.

Whats the ETA on the site being back up?

probably be 2-3 hours. Maybe more maybe less

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December 16, 2013, 11:44:52 PM
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Currently have 5K FZ for sale, asking 25 LTC or BTC equivalent.

Why so much? Several reasons.

1) Difficulty is now high enough that my mining rates are plummeting. In another week I will probably be putting all of my machines back to directly mining LTC.
2) Potential to be listed on an exchange soon means price may suddenly jump 5X or more.
3) Drop in value of LTC/BTC.
4) About 1/3 as many FZ ever as there are current QRK, and QRK is valued at $0.12; I expect FZ to hit $0.50 before the end of 2014.
5) Desire to keep mined FZ vs. sell for current profits.

So, if you're interested, PM me. I will transfer 1/2 of coins first, receive LTC/BTC for that half, then transfer second half.

There are 247Million QRK. There will be 7M Fz. Thats 1/32 as many, not 1/3, making it much more rare. Also QRK will continue to generate every year and Fz will be done after the last block is mined.
Oh, in that case, yeah -- much higher prices. I had 77 million in my head. :-)

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December 17, 2013, 02:35:16 AM
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Another pool has been added to the main topic.

Whats the ETA on the site being back up?

probably be 2-3 hours. Maybe more maybe less
FTFY. Seriously, it's killing the value of FZ, especially in light of the general market downturn of the day.

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December 17, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
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Just a general comment/question since the Frozencoin.org site remains down:

Is anyone else having issues with GPU mining of FZ at the increased difficulty level? I had a system doing 5MHash/sec that at difficulty 500 seemed to be getting around 15 blocks per day. Today, I think it has found two. Best guess is that somehow smelter.exe is not working well at higher difficulty, and is somehow wasting effort. A tripling of difficulty should have resulted in 1/3 the block rate, but I'm more like 1/10 (or less on other systems). CPU mining on the other hand continues to go okay -- my systems (about 20 of them) are still generating close to 1.5K FZ per day, which is scaling pretty well with difficulty.

So basically, what I'm saying is that smelter and FZ don't look to be working properly now that we're at 1500+ difficulty. Also, AFAICT smelter doesn't work with stratum mining pools? So it's doubly useless. I think the smelter version that's being used for Frozen is different from the Quark version, which might explain the problem. And finally, despite claims to the contrary, I'm pretty sure smelter is using a fair amount of GPL licensed code. Maybe I missed something, but is it okay to have a program that has half of it's libraries GPL and then charge 10% of all mined FZ (or QRK) for it? It really needs to go open source, and more importantly it needs some better devs to handle things because right now it's very flaky.

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December 17, 2013, 03:41:06 AM
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Just a general comment/question since the Frozencoin.org site remains down:

Is anyone else having issues with GPU mining of FZ at the increased difficulty level? I had a system doing 5MHash/sec that at difficulty 500 seemed to be getting around 15 blocks per day. Today, I think it has found two. Best guess is that somehow smelter.exe is not working well at higher difficulty, and is somehow wasting effort. A tripling of difficulty should have resulted in 1/3 the block rate, but I'm more like 1/10 (or less on other systems). CPU mining on the other hand continues to go okay -- my systems (about 20 of them) are still generating close to 1.5K FZ per day, which is scaling pretty well with difficulty.

So basically, what I'm saying is that smelter and FZ don't look to be working properly now that we're at 1500+ difficulty. Also, AFAICT smelter doesn't work with stratum mining pools? So it's doubly useless. I think the smelter version that's being used for Frozen is different from the Quark version, which might explain the problem. And finally, despite claims to the contrary, I'm pretty sure smelter is using a fair amount of GPL licensed code. Maybe I missed something, but is it okay to have a program that has half of it's libraries GPL and then charge 10% of all mined FZ (or QRK) for it? It really needs to go open source, and more importantly it needs some better devs to handle things because right now it's very flaky.
Wait WHAT!?
you were GPU mining this coin?!?!?!
I thought this was CPU only.
The FUCK!
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December 17, 2013, 03:50:04 AM
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Just a general comment/question since the Frozencoin.org site remains down:

Is anyone else having issues with GPU mining of FZ at the increased difficulty level? I had a system doing 5MHash/sec that at difficulty 500 seemed to be getting around 15 blocks per day. Today, I think it has found two. Best guess is that somehow smelter.exe is not working well at higher difficulty, and is somehow wasting effort. A tripling of difficulty should have resulted in 1/3 the block rate, but I'm more like 1/10 (or less on other systems). CPU mining on the other hand continues to go okay -- my systems (about 20 of them) are still generating close to 1.5K FZ per day, which is scaling pretty well with difficulty.

So basically, what I'm saying is that smelter and FZ don't look to be working properly now that we're at 1500+ difficulty. Also, AFAICT smelter doesn't work with stratum mining pools? So it's doubly useless. I think the smelter version that's being used for Frozen is different from the Quark version, which might explain the problem. And finally, despite claims to the contrary, I'm pretty sure smelter is using a fair amount of GPL licensed code. Maybe I missed something, but is it okay to have a program that has half of it's libraries GPL and then charge 10% of all mined FZ (or QRK) for it? It really needs to go open source, and more importantly it needs some better devs to handle things because right now it's very flaky.
Wait WHAT!?
you were GPU mining this coin?!?!?!
I thought this was CPU only.
The FUCK!

No wonder you had so many coins to sell me ><
Jesus christ ><
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December 17, 2013, 03:57:30 AM
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Just a general comment/question since the Frozencoin.org site remains down:

Is anyone else having issues with GPU mining of FZ at the increased difficulty level? I had a system doing 5MHash/sec that at difficulty 500 seemed to be getting around 15 blocks per day. Today, I think it has found two. Best guess is that somehow smelter.exe is not working well at higher difficulty, and is somehow wasting effort. A tripling of difficulty should have resulted in 1/3 the block rate, but I'm more like 1/10 (or less on other systems). CPU mining on the other hand continues to go okay -- my systems (about 20 of them) are still generating close to 1.5K FZ per day, which is scaling pretty well with difficulty.

So basically, what I'm saying is that smelter and FZ don't look to be working properly now that we're at 1500+ difficulty. Also, AFAICT smelter doesn't work with stratum mining pools? So it's doubly useless. I think the smelter version that's being used for Frozen is different from the Quark version, which might explain the problem. And finally, despite claims to the contrary, I'm pretty sure smelter is using a fair amount of GPL licensed code. Maybe I missed something, but is it okay to have a program that has half of it's libraries GPL and then charge 10% of all mined FZ (or QRK) for it? It really needs to go open source, and more importantly it needs some better devs to handle things because right now it's very flaky.
Wait WHAT!?
you were GPU mining this coin?!?!?!
I thought this was CPU only.
The FUCK!

No wonder you had so many coins to sell me ><
Jesus christ ><

How many did he have.

GPU is solo mine only so only useful for so long.

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December 17, 2013, 03:59:53 AM
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Just a general comment/question since the Frozencoin.org site remains down:

Is anyone else having issues with GPU mining of FZ at the increased difficulty level? I had a system doing 5MHash/sec that at difficulty 500 seemed to be getting around 15 blocks per day. Today, I think it has found two. Best guess is that somehow smelter.exe is not working well at higher difficulty, and is somehow wasting effort. A tripling of difficulty should have resulted in 1/3 the block rate, but I'm more like 1/10 (or less on other systems). CPU mining on the other hand continues to go okay -- my systems (about 20 of them) are still generating close to 1.5K FZ per day, which is scaling pretty well with difficulty.

So basically, what I'm saying is that smelter and FZ don't look to be working properly now that we're at 1500+ difficulty. Also, AFAICT smelter doesn't work with stratum mining pools? So it's doubly useless. I think the smelter version that's being used for Frozen is different from the Quark version, which might explain the problem. And finally, despite claims to the contrary, I'm pretty sure smelter is using a fair amount of GPL licensed code. Maybe I missed something, but is it okay to have a program that has half of it's libraries GPL and then charge 10% of all mined FZ (or QRK) for it? It really needs to go open source, and more importantly it needs some better devs to handle things because right now it's very flaky.
Wait WHAT!?
you were GPU mining this coin?!?!?!
I thought this was CPU only.
The FUCK!

No wonder you had so many coins to sell me ><
Jesus christ ><

How many did he have.

GPU is solo mine only so only useful for so long.
over 10,000 Fz
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December 17, 2013, 04:01:27 AM
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Just a general comment/question since the Frozencoin.org site remains down:

Is anyone else having issues with GPU mining of FZ at the increased difficulty level? I had a system doing 5MHash/sec that at difficulty 500 seemed to be getting around 15 blocks per day. Today, I think it has found two. Best guess is that somehow smelter.exe is not working well at higher difficulty, and is somehow wasting effort. A tripling of difficulty should have resulted in 1/3 the block rate, but I'm more like 1/10 (or less on other systems). CPU mining on the other hand continues to go okay -- my systems (about 20 of them) are still generating close to 1.5K FZ per day, which is scaling pretty well with difficulty.

So basically, what I'm saying is that smelter and FZ don't look to be working properly now that we're at 1500+ difficulty. Also, AFAICT smelter doesn't work with stratum mining pools? So it's doubly useless. I think the smelter version that's being used for Frozen is different from the Quark version, which might explain the problem. And finally, despite claims to the contrary, I'm pretty sure smelter is using a fair amount of GPL licensed code. Maybe I missed something, but is it okay to have a program that has half of it's libraries GPL and then charge 10% of all mined FZ (or QRK) for it? It really needs to go open source, and more importantly it needs some better devs to handle things because right now it's very flaky.
Wait WHAT!?
you were GPU mining this coin?!?!?!
I thought this was CPU only.
The FUCK!

No wonder you had so many coins to sell me ><
Jesus christ ><

How many did he have.

GPU is solo mine only so only useful for so long.
over 10,000 Fz

I have a little over 5,000 from a shitty quadcore CPU. I just mined day of launch.

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December 17, 2013, 04:04:24 AM
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I thought with a "How to mine FZ with a GPU" thread would have made this clear? (Not that we can access the forums for Frozen yet....)

Depending on the GPU, it's anywhere from 3X (7970) to 5X (6970). It's not like it's super easy to mine with GPUs, and as stated smelter.exe doesn't seem to like the higher difficulty. Where on Bitcoin GPU was about 50X as efficient as CPU and Litecoin it's maybe 15X as efficient (20X with R9 290X), Quark and Frozen it's only 3-5X as efficient. Actually, "efficient" isn't accurate, as a GPU using 150W is about 3X as fast as a CPU that uses half that.

Using 20 systems, I mined ~30K Frozen in five days. But TheMightyX only bought I think 4K -- others bought lots more, and I still have over 5K that I'm holding for the time being. I've actually switched most of my GPUs back to LTC as FZ mining with them can be very flaky. YMMV.

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December 17, 2013, 04:32:04 AM
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I thought with a "How to mine FZ with a GPU" thread would have made this clear? (Not that we can access the forums for Frozen yet....)

Depending on the GPU, it's anywhere from 3X (7970) to 5X (6970). It's not like it's super easy to mine with GPUs, and as stated smelter.exe doesn't seem to like the higher difficulty. Where on Bitcoin GPU was about 50X as efficient as CPU and Litecoin it's maybe 15X as efficient (20X with R9 290X), Quark and Frozen it's only 3-5X as efficient. Actually, "efficient" isn't accurate, as a GPU using 150W is about 3X as fast as a CPU that uses half that.

Using 20 systems, I mined ~30K Frozen in five days. But TheMightyX only bought I think 4K -- others bought lots more, and I still have over 5K that I'm holding for the time being. I've actually switched most of my GPUs back to LTC as FZ mining with them can be very flaky. YMMV.
ahh ok it seems your advantage was 20+ computers, not GPU mining.
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December 17, 2013, 04:41:41 AM
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I thought with a "How to mine FZ with a GPU" thread would have made this clear? (Not that we can access the forums for Frozen yet....)

Depending on the GPU, it's anywhere from 3X (7970) to 5X (6970). It's not like it's super easy to mine with GPUs, and as stated smelter.exe doesn't seem to like the higher difficulty. Where on Bitcoin GPU was about 50X as efficient as CPU and Litecoin it's maybe 15X as efficient (20X with R9 290X), Quark and Frozen it's only 3-5X as efficient. Actually, "efficient" isn't accurate, as a GPU using 150W is about 3X as fast as a CPU that uses half that.

Using 20 systems, I mined ~30K Frozen in five days. But TheMightyX only bought I think 4K -- others bought lots more, and I still have over 5K that I'm holding for the time being. I've actually switched most of my GPUs back to LTC as FZ mining with them can be very flaky. YMMV.

I think the host just wiped the whole database. i have a backup from yesterday but having trouble uploading it. if you can help me fix it i'll throw some Fz your way. pm me if u can

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December 17, 2013, 06:59:51 AM
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The site is back up but completely wiped. TheMightyX has found the issue and may be able to fix it.

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