Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[Mike Christ]

There have been calls to make climate change denial a crime too, some people even suggested that climate change skeptics should be executed.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/professor_calls_for_death_penalty_for_climate_change_deniers.html

Not surprised this behavior stems from a man in the bubble of academia.  I'd like to think, in a normal world, this man's reputation would be completely tarnished and nobody would want to interact with him anymore, but I know this isn't true.

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[RodeoX]

I have never met a scientist who is not deeply concerned about global warming, or an internet nut who is. My favorite is that this is a "hoax". lol
So, 99% of all climate scientists met secretly and decided it would be hilarious if they threw away their carers and Ph.Ds as a joke? "I went to college for 12 years, but this too cool to not do!!!"" Or maybe, just maybe, the guy with a 7th. grade education typing from his mom's trailer could be wrong. 

[Lethn]

The whole fucking thing has become so ridiculous it's a lot like trying to talk to Americans about politics without automatically being grouped into one side or the other, the lobbying groups on either side have made it extremely hard for any actual science to be done and for any proper truthful conclusion to be made.

[MaxwellsDemon]

I have never met a scientist who is not deeply concerned about global warming, or an internet nut who is. My favorite is that this is a "hoax". lol
So, 99% of all climate scientists met secretly and decided it would be hilarious if they threw away their carers and Ph.Ds as a joke? "I went to college for 12 years, but this too cool to not do!!!"" Or maybe, just maybe, the guy with a 7th. grade education typing from his mom's trailer could be wrong. 

No no you're not getting it. It's not a joke, it's a conspiracy. We scientists made a deal with the major world governments that we'll fabricate an excuse to create a carbon tax, and they'll share half the money with us.  I've personally made over a million dollars by peddling these lies about so-called "global warming"!


And while we're on the subject, I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't heard from creationists on this thread yet. Who will volunteer to debunk evolution in under three sentences?

[Mike Christ]

And while we're on the subject, I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't heard from creationists on this thread yet. Who will volunteer to debunk evolution in under three sentences?

Heck, I can do it in three words: God did it.

[RodeoX]

I have never met a scientist who is not deeply concerned about global warming, or an internet nut who is. My favorite is that this is a "hoax". lol
So, 99% of all climate scientists met secretly and decided it would be hilarious if they threw away their carers and Ph.Ds as a joke? "I went to college for 12 years, but this too cool to not do!!!"" Or maybe, just maybe, the guy with a 7th. grade education typing from his mom's trailer could be wrong. 

No no you're not getting it. It's not a joke, it's a conspiracy. We scientists made a deal with the major world governments that we'll fabricate an excuse to create a carbon tax, and they'll share half the money with us.  I've personally made over a million dollars by peddling these lies about so-called "global warming"!


And while we're on the subject, I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't heard from creationists on this thread yet. Who will volunteer to debunk evolution in under three sentences?

WTF, I'm a greedy scientist! Where is my invite!! 

[tinus42]

No no you're not getting it. It's not a joke, it's a conspiracy. We scientists made a deal with the major world governments that we'll fabricate an excuse to create a carbon tax, and they'll share half the money with us.  I've personally made over a million dollars by peddling these lies about so-called "global warming"!

Governments really don't need any excuses to tax the hell out of everything.

[Wilikon]

I have never met a scientist who is not deeply concerned about global warming, or an internet nut who is. My favorite is that this is a "hoax". lol
So, 99% of all climate scientists met secretly and decided it would be hilarious if they threw away their carers and Ph.Ds as a joke? "I went to college for 12 years, but this too cool to not do!!!"" Or maybe, just maybe, the guy with a 7th. grade education typing from his mom's trailer could be wrong. 

key word: Funding. Money does not need people to meet secretly. Right now if you want to have a chance to have your research funded, does not matter what, make sure to add the words "climate", "green energy", "human impact on nature", etc.

Follow the money. We are all humans. We love money. Even tree hugging scientists like Al Gore.

[Spendulus]

There have been calls to make climate change denial a crime too, some people even suggested that climate change skeptics should be executed.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/professor_calls_for_death_penalty_for_climate_change_deniers.html

Not surprised this behavior stems from a man in the bubble of academia.  I'd like to think, in a normal world, this man's reputation would be completely tarnished and nobody would want to interact with him anymore, but I know this isn't true.

I guess the way that would work would be that the accused would be presented with some kind of a oath or creed, and if he swore by it, he would be pardoned provisionally, likely deferred adjudication.  However if there had been evidence of the accused doing bad things, then yeah, he'd have to go before a jury.

Now that jury, they'd all have to be checked out to insure that none of them were overt or closet deniers - as well as the judge, court reporters, and the bailiff.  You just can't be too careful these days.  The exact meaning of "Denier" would have to be codified and reduced to the proper belief set, and this agreed upon by the relevant committees.

I think when we were done setting all this up, it would be quite interesting.  You know, a lot of those SWAT teams are worried they won't have any work as more and more states legalize marihuana.  I can see where they could swoop in, when an informer ratted on a Denier.  There could be a cell phone app for Denier Reporting.  The NSA would be glad to help out.  Something to help them get a good public image.  Doing good work, you know.  Or maybe not.  Maybe we couldn't trust the people in the US - it'd be better to bring in international cops, observers and enforcers.

I have to admit to being a bit worried about this plan.  Not because some innocent people could die, after all it's all for the planet.  But what if we missed some of the Deniers?  You know, sort of like the Racists that don't even know they are racists, and don't say or do anything racist, but actually are racist? 

Hey saving the Planet's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it.

[MaxwellsDemon]

Heck, I can do it in three words: God did it.

Obviously. He's also responsible for global warming:

http://www.defectiveyeti.com/archives/001867.html

WTF, I'm a greedy scientist! Where is my invite!! 

I guess you haven't been lying as much as the rest of us 

key word: Funding. Money does not need people to meet secretly. Right now if you want to have a chance to have your research funded, does not matter what, make sure to add the words "climate", "green energy", "human impact on nature", etc.

Follow the money. We are all humans. We love money. Even tree hugging scientists like Al Gore.

As a world-renowned expert in failing to get research grants, let me give you a pro tip: Never say what everyone else is saying. The best way to get funding is by claiming you can break the consensus, not by reinforcing it. Going against common wisdom adds sex-appeal to your grant application.

Oh and Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. Also an egomaniac 

[compro01]

Even tree hugging scientists like Al Gore.

Gore isn't a bloody scientist.  He has a BA with a major in government and worked as a journalist before he went into politics.

[Wilikon]

There have been calls to make climate change denial a crime too, some people even suggested that climate change skeptics should be executed.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/professor_calls_for_death_penalty_for_climate_change_deniers.html

Not surprised this behavior stems from a man in the bubble of academia.  I'd like to think, in a normal world, this man's reputation would be completely tarnished and nobody would want to interact with him anymore, but I know this isn't true.

Wow! What a sad creature.

[Wilikon]

Heck, I can do it in three words: God did it.

Obviously. He's also responsible for global warming:

http://www.defectiveyeti.com/archives/001867.html

WTF, I'm a greedy scientist! Where is my invite!! 

I guess you haven't been lying as much as the rest of us 

key word: Funding. Money does not need people to meet secretly. Right now if you want to have a chance to have your research funded, does not matter what, make sure to add the words "climate", "green energy", "human impact on nature", etc.

Follow the money. We are all humans. We love money. Even tree hugging scientists like Al Gore.

As a world-renowned expert in failing to get research grants, let me give you a pro tip: Never say what everyone else is saying. The best way to get funding is by claiming you can break the consensus, not by reinforcing it. Going against common wisdom adds sex-appeal to your grant application.

Oh and Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. Also an egomaniac 

Al Gore is a scientist: he has an Oscar that proves it. And don't forget: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco

[globe-biz]

There is no climate change due to global warming period. The earth receives its energy from the sun and its a real scientific fact that the sun is shrinking-no tankers come to top it off. The earth is slowly cooling.
The fact that reddit has to suppress comments show that they arent interested in science...they are interested in perpetuating more propaganda-real science is objective and not close minded

[u9y42]

As a world-renowned expert in failing to get research grants, let me give you a pro tip: Never say what everyone else is saying. The best way to get funding is by claiming you can break the consensus, not by reinforcing it. Going against common wisdom adds sex-appeal to your grant application.

So, shouldn't he be doing the exact opposite of what you're advising?  

[Spendulus]

Heck, I can do it in three words: God did it.

Obviously. He's also responsible for global warming:

http://www.defectiveyeti.com/archives/001867.html

WTF, I'm a greedy scientist! Where is my invite!! 

I guess you haven't been lying as much as the rest of us 

key word: Funding. Money does not need people to meet secretly. Right now if you want to have a chance to have your research funded, does not matter what, make sure to add the words "climate", "green energy", "human impact on nature", etc.

Follow the money. We are all humans. We love money. Even tree hugging scientists like Al Gore.

As a world-renowned expert in failing to get research grants, let me give you a pro tip: Never say what everyone else is saying. The best way to get funding is by claiming you can break the consensus, not by reinforcing it. Going against common wisdom adds sex-appeal to your grant application.

Oh and Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. Also an egomaniac 

Al Gore is a scientist: he has an Oscar that proves it. And don't forget: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E42mIvjzRw

And yes he is a fucking scientist.  Well, at least an honorary fucking scientist.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/feb/26/al-gore-in-line-for-honorary-doctorate-from-ut/

[Spendulus]

There is no climate change due to global warming period. The earth receives its energy from the sun and its a real scientific fact that the sun is shrinking-no tankers come to top it off.

You know when I put bad gas in my truck and ain't got the carb adjusted right, it has this problem, it detonates.

That sun do that too?

[MaxwellsDemon]

Al Gore is a scientist: he has an Oscar that proves it.

Yes, and Tom Hanks got two Oscars for coming up with the theory of relativity and quantum mechanics!

As a world-renowned expert in failing to get research grants, let me give you a pro tip: Never say what everyone else is saying. The best way to get funding is by claiming you can break the consensus, not by reinforcing it. Going against common wisdom adds sex-appeal to your grant application.

So, shouldn't he be doing the exact opposite of what you're advising? 

Well, they say bad experience is the best experience 

[AnonyMint]

Neither you or Anonymint has an arguable point.  He would argue that the Religious Warmer's co2/lag argument is "this time it's different", which is not impossible but a recognized logical problem.

No I argued the irrefutable point that they have presented no falsifiable science, because they are just picking models out of their ass assuming some variables matter but not others, finding one of many possible statistical correlations, and declaring that to be cause & effect.

That is not science.

Maybe one day you will learn what science is.

Perhaps you might even learn what aliasing error and long-tail distributions are.

It is not my burden to prove them wrong, it is their burden to prove something using real science.

There have been calls to make climate change denial a crime too, some people even suggested that climate change skeptics should be executed.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/professor_calls_for_death_penalty_for_climate_change_deniers.html

Not surprised this behavior stems from a man in the bubble of academia.  I'd like to think, in a normal world, this man's reputation would be completely tarnished and nobody would want to interact with him anymore, but I know this isn't true.

$150 trillion global debt bubble with $quadrillion of derivatives and another $quadrillion of unfunded social commitments can do this to society.

Razing that to stumps isn't going to be pleasant.

I have never met a scientist who is not deeply concerned about global warming, or an internet nut who is. My favorite is that this is a "hoax". lol
So, 99% of all climate scientists met secretly and decided it would be hilarious if they threw away their carers and Ph.Ds as a joke? "I went to college for 12 years, but this too cool to not do!!!"" Or maybe, just maybe, the guy with a 7th. grade education typing from his mom's trailer could be wrong.  

No no you're not getting it. It's not a joke, it's a conspiracy. We scientists made a deal with the major world governments that we'll fabricate an excuse to create a carbon tax, and they'll share half the money with us.  I've personally made over a million dollars by peddling these lies about so-called "global warming"!


And while we're on the subject, I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't heard from creationists on this thread yet. Who will volunteer to debunk evolution in under three sentences?

No you just like getting funded for building models all day. You could careless how those models are used to make nonsense conclusions on a larger scale.

Analogous to Medicare recipients aren't intent on bankrupting the USA, they just like getting their healthcare.

This is how socialism ends. Nasty, very nasty.

Heck, I can do it in three words: God did it.

Obviously. He's also responsible for global warming:

http://www.defectiveyeti.com/archives/001867.html

WTF, I'm a greedy scientist! Where is my invite!!  

I guess you haven't been lying as much as the rest of us  

key word: Funding. Money does not need people to meet secretly. Right now if you want to have a chance to have your research funded, does not matter what, make sure to add the words "climate", "green energy", "human impact on nature", etc.

Follow the money. We are all humans. We love money. Even tree hugging scientists like Al Gore.

As a world-renowned expert in failing to get research grants, let me give you a pro tip: Never say what everyone else is saying. The best way to get funding is by claiming you can break the consensus, not by reinforcing it. Going against common wisdom adds sex-appeal to your grant application.

Oh and Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. Also an egomaniac  

Al Gore is a scientist: he has an Oscar that proves it. And don't forget:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E42mIvjzRw

And yes he is a fucking scientist.  Well, at least an honorary fucking scientist.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/feb/26/al-gore-in-line-for-honorary-doctorate-from-ut/

And he created the internet.

[Spendulus]

Neither you or Anonymint has an arguable point.  He would argue that the Religious Warmer's co2/lag argument is "this time it's different", which is not impossible but a recognized logical problem.

No I argued the irrefutable point that they have presented no falsifiable science, because they are just picking models out of their ass assuming some variables matter but not others, finding one of many possible statistical correlations, and declaring that to be cause & effect.

That is not science.
Maybe one day you will learn what science is.
Perhaps you might even learn what aliasing error and long-tail distributions are.
It is not my burden to prove them wrong, it is their burden to prove something using real science.

Agreed.  But your "temperature lags co2 rise" argument is not terribly better is it?

And if it is an argument, then it is an argument against what, if there is no falsifiable science presented?