Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[Anon136]

rofl and how long do you think their grants would continue if they didn't claim that the sky was falling? they would all be out on their asses out of work in about 5 minutes if they came to the opposite conclusion of what that diagram shows.

I've got an idea, lets create a group of people who's job it is to figure out methods of increasing the population of arctic foxes and then lets ask them for an unbiased opinion on whether or not the population of arctic foxes ought to be higher than it is now.

no wait i have a better one, lets ask an asprin manufacturer whether he feels that the the supposed health risks surrounding aspirin use are or are not founded.

"Yea well sorry boss it turns out that there is absolutely no risk associated with climate change, now can i please have an increase in funding for my climate research"

 

[Spendulus]

rofl and how long do you think their grants would continue if they didn't claim that the sky was falling? they would all be out on their asses out of work in about 5 minutes if they came to the opposite conclusion of what that diagram shows.

I've got an idea, lets create a group of people who's job it is to figure out solutions to help preserve the population of the arctic fox and then lets ask them for an unbiased opinion on whether or not steps ought to be taken to help to preserve the population of arcitic foxes.

no wait i have a better one, lets ask an asprin manufacturer whether he feels that the the supposed health risks surrounding aspirin use are or are not founded.

"Yea well sorry boss it turns out that there is absolutely no risk associated with climate change, now can i please have an increase in funding for my climate research"

 

Climate researchers could be put to useful purposes. 

They could be put to studying the effect on the environment of trash in national parks.  This would involve picking up all the trash.

They could be put to work studying the dietary habits of polar bears close up.  I think to really understand the dietary habits, it would be about right to get 6-36" inches away from them immediately before they start feeding.

Now for the fat dumb and lazy climate researchers who want to sit in front of their computers and not go out in the big vast Gaia, there is the vast polluted Internet, which is globally warming up.  It's actually getting positively hot.  And this has brought massive virtual pollution in the form of spam. 
That is a big job, clearing the spam off the internet.  But if you just connect the dots for these guys .... CO2::SPAM .... they'll get it....

Plus, climate researchers should be cheap and easy to hire.  No gas allowance, no airflight to conferences, no health care for children (they shouldn't HAVE children of course), one light bulb for every dozen or so of them in their hot, sweaty unairconditioned cubicles...

[Anon136]

They could be put to work studying the dietary habits of polar bears close up.  I think to really understand the dietary habits, it would be about right to get 6-36" inches away from them immediately before they start feeding.

No need, it turns out the polar bear population is at record levels

[Spendulus]

They could be put to work studying the dietary habits of polar bears close up.  I think to really understand the dietary habits, it would be about right to get 6-36" inches away from them immediately before they start feeding.

No need, it turns out the polar bear population is at record levels

ROFL....

Time to use our human wisdom, reduce the population to ecologically sound levels.

Where dat bbq sauce?

[cryptasm]

Just to clarify, do you guys think that humans have no effect on our global climate?

[globe-biz]

 The demon possesed/opressed person who just posted above about the bbq sauce shows the entire truth about the global warming scam...its a luciferean/satanic ploy to cover up the mass murder the United Nations plans to release on the earth once they begin their New World Order- they plan to destroy all nations and create a one world govt (United Nations) and have a one world currency (btc?) and a one world religion where people pray to what they say.Its called the great tribulation in the Bible and it last 7 years then comes the end of the world.All you demonically oppressed people will laugh as that is your course until you are judged.

What I say is a fact and if you research it you will find that the Freemasons plan on murdering the majority of the people on the earth (once the holy spirit stops restraining them after the rapture)  to reduce the global population to 500 million---look up the Georgia Guidestones where the elite state in 12 languages they want to murder 90% of the earth - they use their environmental scare as the reason to justify their slaughter.

All who support this global warming lie are blinded by their sins and the sins of their parents before them...without GOD the race will go mad as we near judgement day... Global Warming= the justification for mass murder by the Luciferan United Nations global govt period

[cAPSLOCK]

Just to clarify, do you guys think that humans have no effect on our global climate?

Just to clarify that's a cute little strawman you are building there all by yourself. :}

[u9y42]

The demon possesed person who just posted above about the bbq sauce shows the entire truth about the global warming scam...its a luciferean/satanic ploy to cover up the mass murder the United Nations plans to release on the earth once they begin their New World Order- they plan to destroy all nations and create a one world govt (United Nations) and have a one world currency (btc?) and a one world religion where people pray to what they say.Its called the great tribulation in the Bible and it last 7 years then comes the end of the world.All you demonically oppressed people will laugh as that is your course until you are judged.

What I say is a fact and if you research it you will find that the Freemasons plan on murdering the majority of the people on the earth (once the holy spirit stops restraining them after the rapture)  to reduce the global population to 500 million---look up the Georgia Guidestones where the elite state in 12 languages they want to murder 90% of the earth - they use their environmental scare as the reason to justify their slaughter.

All who support this global warming lie are blinded by their sins and the sins of their parents before them...without GOD the race will go mad as we near judgement day... Global Warming= the justification for mass murder by the Luciferan United Nations global govt period

I can't even fathom the amount of free time someone must have to come up with such absurdities...  

More to the point, I'm also of the opinion that Reddit (or rather one of the subs, I imagine) shouldn't have banned climate change deniers outright; instead, they should strive to win the argument. But I'm curious as to how many people here are climate change deniers... I think I'll create a poll thread to find out, if there isn't one already.  

EDIT: I've created the poll thread I mentioned: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=376835

[Anon136]

Just to clarify, do you guys think that humans have no effect on our global climate?

that would be a ridiculous thing to think.

[CoinGeneral]

I think it's obvious global warming is occurring

You would have to be a very ignorant fool to think otherwise, LOL.

[cAPSLOCK]

I think it's obvious global warming is occurring

You would have to be a very ignorant fool to think otherwise, LOL.

Well fuck.

Its impossible to argue with something as ironclad as that. Especially when you include a picture of Mark Twain.

/thread

[Spendulus]

Just to clarify, do you guys think that humans have no effect on our global climate?

that would be a ridiculous thing to think.

So every single thing that has lived as had some effect, however infinitesimal.  Have to formulate a better position for a debate than that.  Otherwise you won't have any DENIERS!

lol...

[globe-biz]

What happens if you leave a hot water bottle in a cold room? The water in the bottle becomes cold because the heat energy is dissipated and transferred into the cold . The same thing happens with the atmosphere. The supposed argument that global warming makes is heat from humans rises and is trapped in the atmosphere.

The problem is that every 24 hr period the earths surface is cooled by being in the dark and away from the sun for roughly 12 hours and the heat they want you to think heat is amassing is actually dissipating and making global warming impossible.

These elite count on you being stupid and believing everything they tell you...and because most of you are you believe the media (satans church) you are deceived.The media isnt reality its just the reality they produce with their humans and their central banks control of the physical power (money)

1 john 5:19

"for we know we are children of GOD and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one"

[u9y42]

The problem is that every 24 hr period the earths surface is cooled by being in the dark and away from the sun for roughly 12 hours and the heat they want you to think heat is amassing is actually dissipating and making global warming impossible.

Where is the heat being dissipated to though?

[globe-biz]

Outer space

[AnonyMint]

Neither you or Anonymint has an arguable point.  He would argue that the Religious Warmer's co2/lag argument is "this time it's different", which is not impossible but a recognized logical problem.

No I argued the irrefutable point that they have presented no falsifiable science, because they are just picking models out of their ass assuming some variables matter but not others, finding one of many possible statistical correlations, and declaring that to be cause & effect.

That is not science.
Maybe one day you will learn what science is.
Perhaps you might even learn what aliasing error and long-tail distributions are.
It is not my burden to prove them wrong, it is their burden to prove something using real science.

Agreed.  But your "temperature lags co2 rise" argument is not terribly better is it?

And if it is an argument, then it is an argument against what, if there is no falsifiable science presented?

Agreed in principle, but not in relative culpability and sampling confidence interval.

Millions of years of ice core data showing that temperature rises then CO2 lags by up to 600 - 1000 years is a correlation. Whether temperature causes C02 to rise is not proven by that correlation. However, it certainly rules out that C02 rises have caused temperature to rise.

And there is a theory that makes a great amount of sense because it is probably the only possibility, which is that as temperature rises the oceans warm and then the oceans release the C02 in orders-of-magnitude more quantity than humans ever could.

And the temperature rises correlate with sunspot activity, so it is also quite reasonable to make the theory that the sun is what modulates temperature on Earth.

Duh! Without the sun, we'd be frozen.

That is not proof. But I don't need to prove anything. They are the ones (and I will exaggerate slightly to make the dramatic point of where socialism can lead to with eugenics, a la Hitler, fall of Rome, Stalin, China, etc) who want to tax the fuck out of breathing (we exhale C02), due to some non-proof.

The Carbon Cycle is life on earth. These lunatics want to tax and destroy life.

I wouldn't complain once we have anonymous cryptocurrencies if bounties are offered for their heads. They should be more careful about how this socialism is going to go down. They feel too safe. They are a cancer and a threat to the survival of the human species. Note I am not making any personal threat, nor am I inciting or advising any one to. Just trying to wake them up to the reality that their lunatic actions have a cost, and they better be more careful about banning the truth and running roughshod over the human species. Nature attacks back.

[tinus42]

I think it's obvious global warming is occurring

You would have to be a very ignorant fool to think otherwise, LOL.

There are two things being postulated:

A. Climate change is happening

B. Climate change is caused by humans

People who question B. but accept A. still get brushed as "climate change deniers".

There has been climate change even before humans existed. Yet humans and client change are automatically linked together, the first causes the last. No nuances are possible.

I see the same trick in other areas. People who oppose the European Union are "against Europe". So you're against a whole continent if you oppose the EU.

[Spendulus]

.....I don't need to prove anything. They are the ones (and I will exaggerate slightly to make the dramatic point of where socialism can lead to with eugenics, a la Hitler, fall of Rome, Stalin, China, etc) who want to tax the fuck out of breathing (we exhale C02), due to some non-proof.

The Carbon Cycle is life on earth. These lunatics want to tax and destroy life.

I wouldn't complain once we have anonymous cryptocurrencies if bounties are offered for their heads. They should be more careful about how this socialism is going to go down. They feel too safe. They are a cancer and a threat to the survival of the human species. Note I am not making any personal threat, nor am I inciting or advising any one to. Just trying to wake them up to the reality that their lunatic actions have a cost, and they better be more careful about banning the truth and running roughshod over the human species. Nature attacks back.

Not only that but the weak solar flux in the last 15 years or so, and the lack of sunspots, has solar scientists publishing warnings that we may have a 'little ice age coming'.  The point to the one in the 17th century, as the only other time we know of which is similar.

That's huge, even if admittedly a possibility, since the Earth's population is so much higher today.

So does this make me a believer in climate change?

What if there was an effect from the man's co2 and it stopped the ice age?

That somehow also falls within the definition of "Denier".

Go figure.

[cryptasm]

[RodeoX]

It's simple really. Shine a light on a closed fish tank filled with air. Now put a little CO2 in the tank and watch the temp go up. It's 2nd.grade physics. You have to be willfully ignorant to not understand.