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December 07, 2016, 09:24:12 PM
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I think there should be one or two lower levels with an affordable price but with limited benefits and the premium/highest rank should be no more than a bitcoin or so (and be pegged to fiat to avoid what happened with the current donator ranks). Even having it as something around $100 would still be a significant investment for most but any amount will take the money away from farmers and make people take better care of their accounts.

I agree, but I think that maintaining the current donator levels is somewhat of a priority. 

We could keep the VIP/Donator ranks as they are but separate from the new ones. Nobody is going to donate at the prices they currently are (unless bitcoin ever tanks) so maybe it would be best to 'retire' them (though you would obviously keep your title and benefits). Previous donators could also be automatically promoted or have the benefits of whatever the highest new rank is as well.

Keeping the 80% step down and having separate levels makes a lot of sense to me.  Perhaps along with the addition of a 2 BTC Supporter level with a slightly restricted signature, a 0.4 BTC Believer level could also be introduced with an even more restricted signature.  It could even be announced with enough lead time to where current signature campaign participants could save their funds for a couple months to pay for their account upgrades if they wanted to continue advertising.

I think a balance would need to be found. They need to be affordable and worthwhile donating for but not so cheap it's affordable to buy on your 20 multi-accounts. Nobody is going to donate for something that is going to take them a year or so to see a return on investment so the benefits need to be there for them to donate in the first place. There could just be one donator rank, for say $100 (or whatever), which would get you a Hero-sized signature (plus other benefits/perks) or you could have several ranks starting from a small amount ($5-10 or so) and going up in a tiered scale.  Things might get complicated or be hard to code for numerous ranks though but having one expensive/ premium rank might price most people out of it (which has positives and negatives I guess, but like I said it's about finding a balance and where the positives outweigh any negatives).

All this assumes that 1) there is a desire to reduce spam on the forums

Of course, and this is something the Staff has been discussing for some time and is why I suggested what we're talking about now. theymos expressed interest in it a while back as well so it's certainly a possibility, though would likely take quite some time and effort to code but I think would be worth it. It would be a significant money-earner for the forum whilst having the added benefit of stopping account farming which is always going to be a big problem as long as signatures are tied to ranks.

& 2) theymos wants to spend more of his free time on forum fundraising efforts.

I don't know how interested theymos is in generating extra income but once the system was coded it probably would be automatic and run itself but if it required any manual intervention the other staff could handle implementing the new ranks to users by whitelisting or whatever after they donated. Even if the forum still doesn't 'need' money it can be saved/invested or donated to charity or something.

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December 07, 2016, 09:43:29 PM
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stopping account farming which is always going to be a big problem as long as signatures are tied to ranks.

My 2 cents here coming from a long experienced (50yo) business-man: signatures campaign are kinda of advertising giveaways this forum is doing. While theymos open continuos runs for forum advertising, they allow "free" advertising by signature campaigns. If you look at one page of a random single thread, you would see the graphic impact of signatures, overloading the paid advertising above first post of that page.
Signature campaign companies are doing business here and are advertising their business in the same place they do business: on this forum.
The proposal: anyone wanting to start a signature campaign here must cut with forum owners by paying (lower) fees same that official advertising runs do.
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December 08, 2016, 11:11:38 AM
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The proposal: anyone wanting to start a signature campaign here must cut with forum owners by paying (lower) fees same that official advertising runs do.
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I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. That to run a signature campaign you must also buy advertising slots (but at a discounted price) or they should have to pay some sort of fee to the forum to be able to run a campaign in the first place?

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December 08, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
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to pay some sort of fee to the forum to be able to run a campaign in the first place?

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December 08, 2016, 02:03:55 PM
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I think there should be one or two lower levels with an affordable price but with limited benefits and the premium/highest rank should be no more than a bitcoin or so (and be pegged to fiat to avoid what happened with the current donator ranks). Even having it as something around $100 would still be a significant investment for most but any amount will take the money away from farmers and make people take better care of their accounts.

I agree, but I think that maintaining the current donator levels is somewhat of a priority.  Keeping the 80% step down and having separate levels makes a lot of sense to me.  Perhaps along with the addition of a 2 BTC Supporter level with a slightly restricted signature, a 0.4 BTC Believer level could also be introduced with an even more restricted signature.  It could even be announced with enough lead time to where current signature campaign participants could save their funds for a couple months to pay for their account upgrades if they wanted to continue advertising.

All this assumes that 1) there is a desire to reduce spam on the forums & 2) theymos wants to spend more of his free time on forum fundraising efforts.
Yes that will be a fantastic idea to introduce some cool status like "Believer" and "Supporter" , this will benifit the forum to raise funds for it.
At the current price i feel that no one is going to donate 10 btc for Donator status.


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December 10, 2016, 04:44:21 PM
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to pay some sort of fee to the forum to be able to run a campaign in the first place?

Nods, this.

It has been brought up before as was campaigns paying some sort of bond that they only get back if they run their campaign adequately. Wouldn't be against it necessarily but might be hard to enforce or more hassle than it's worth.

I PMd theymos asking if he's thought any more about the suggestion.

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December 10, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
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to pay some sort of fee to the forum to be able to run a campaign in the first place?

Nods, this.

It has been brought up before as was campaigns paying some sort of bond that they only get back if they run their campaign adequately. Wouldn't be against it necessarily but might be hard to enforce or more hassle than it's worth.

I PMd theymos asking if he's thought any more about the suggestion.

Yeah he has enough details to decide about this. It is not only a marketing strategy of course but looking at your quoted answer (it was first post of the page before i post this) your Coinroll Dice sig overloads with colors and size the ASK (paid) banner. And your signature appears 6 time in this latest thread page. Nothing against you or your signature of course  Grin it's just stating facts.
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December 11, 2016, 03:40:32 AM
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I think there should be one or two lower levels with an affordable price but with limited benefits and the premium/highest rank should be no more than a bitcoin or so (and be pegged to fiat to avoid what happened with the current donator ranks). Even having it as something around $100 would still be a significant investment for most but any amount will take the money away from farmers and make people take better care of their accounts.

I agree, but I think that maintaining the current donator levels is somewhat of a priority.  Keeping the 80% step down and having separate levels makes a lot of sense to me.  Perhaps along with the addition of a 2 BTC Supporter level with a slightly restricted signature, a 0.4 BTC Believer level could also be introduced with an even more restricted signature.  It could even be announced with enough lead time to where current signature campaign participants could save their funds for a couple months to pay for their account upgrades if they wanted to continue advertising.

All this assumes that 1) there is a desire to reduce spam on the forums & 2) theymos wants to spend more of his free time on forum fundraising efforts.


I think that all donations from a single account should be kept track of if they are initially started with $100. I cant see myself donating 38k at once to become a VIP. But I could see myself donating $50-$100 a month until I reached the bottom tier.


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If theymos don't mind then can I ask whether what is the minimum amount of bitcoin that we can donate in this forum .

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what is the minimum amount of bitcoin that we can donate in this forum .

You can donate any amount to the forum by sending BTC to the address at the top of this page.

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April 08, 2017, 11:27:53 AM
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is the minimum amount for donator status still 10 or 50?

because that is kinda unrealistic considering btc is around 1k lol
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April 08, 2017, 11:49:30 AM
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is the minimum amount for donator status still 10 or 50?

because that is kinda unrealistic considering btc is around 1k lol
The amount still same and always same from time to time (maybe).
Donator =10 btc and VIP=50 btc
People who donated 10 btc when the price still $1 or below were really lucky

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April 08, 2017, 12:06:45 PM
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is the minimum amount for donator status still 10 or 50?

because that is kinda unrealistic considering btc is around 1k lol

The value during that time when they were donating 50 btc isn't as high as the current. $5k really is huge for something to donate.  I'm not sure what benefits donators have in the forum by the way besides that badge under their username to which you would look very rich Smiley 1 btc is valuable enough.


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April 08, 2017, 12:28:42 PM
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is the minimum amount for donator status still 10 or 50?

because that is kinda unrealistic considering btc is around 1k lol

The value during that time when they were donating 50 btc isn't as high as the current. $5k really is huge for something to donate.  I'm not sure what benefits donators have in the forum by the way besides that badge under their username to which you would look very rich Smiley 1 btc is valuable enough.

50 btc * 1'000 usd = 50'000 dollars not 5k dollars (k = thousand).
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April 11, 2017, 02:24:29 PM
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The amount still same and always same from time to time (maybe).
Donator =10 btc and VIP=50 btc
People who donated 10 btc when the price still $1 or below were really lucky

Theymos posted this request in August of 2011 when the price was still well above $1. In fact, even in November 2011, at it's lowest point, the price did not fall under $2 per coin.

Most people here made their donations in 2011 and 2012 when the price was around $2-$10 per coin and most likely averaged around $5/coin. That would have been about $50 for Donator tag and $250 for VIP tag. Remember that over time, a number of the VIPs and some Donators have become scammers or were rated as otherwise untrustworthy by other members. You should not see the Donator tag as anything other than what it is, an indication that the person helped the forum out financially. It doesn't make someone more trustworthy at all. In fact, there's evidence some people used the tag in their confidence games.

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April 20, 2017, 04:22:39 PM
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Thanks to Claymore, the first Donator in quite some time.

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April 20, 2017, 06:36:53 PM
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Thanks to Claymore, the first Donator in quite some time.
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April 21, 2017, 09:31:34 PM
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Thanks Claymore!

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Thanks for supporting the forum.
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April 23, 2017, 05:59:19 PM
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I hadn't paid much attention to this before but am interested in supporting, but I am curious, are we still at 10/50BTC given the intent of the original amounts and the current value relative to fiat?

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