Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :)

[TheQuin]

Proof is in the pudding.

The proof that you are making a lot off of your referrals naivety and greed. That's not proof you have successfully become the first person in history to invent and infallible betting system.

It says on your website that you keep a balance of 0.05 to win 0.00000547 a day. That's means you have a high probability of winning but when you lose you going to lose big.

You're not the first snake oil salesman to pull that scam.

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[broke_tradah]

The flaw in this strategy is obviously the retention of the referrals, because they will quickly figure out that they were duped and they will stop playing.  

There is a flaw in your flaw.  Using this logic, there is a retention issue of gamblers to casinos since ALL casinos are mathmatically DESIGNED to make the user lose.  Why on earth would anyone ecer play again at any casino if the damn game is rigged to begin with.  lol

The site you are reading hasnt been updated in a while.  My viewers know the strategy I use now which is similar but slightly different.  Not so different as to warrant modification though.  I keep a 0.04 balance and withdraw at 0.08.  Its essentially the same mathmatically except I dont have to withdraw as often.

Btw,  how are referrals snakey.  If it is,  why does freebitco offer it.  So are you saying that its ok for the casino to offer the same service and its 'not' evil,  yet its evil for others to do that?  I fail to see the logic.  Is it my bot thats causing the true evil (which is the 5% house edge) because if it is I will fix it right away asap!  I do not stack the deck.  That is the site doing that,  not me.

Using your logic of 'making a profit' is evil can just as easily be applied to the casino..... and even to a LARGER degree.

I put in time and effort to build something and its not cool if im paid for it,  but its cool if the casino is paid for their time and effort for work they have done.   What kind of socialist crap thinking is that.  Are you a chinese communist or something?  lol

[TheQuin]

The flaw in this strategy is obviously the retention of the referrals, because they will quickly figure out that they were duped and they will stop playing.  

There is a flaw in your flaw.

No, normal casino customers aren't being lied to that they can't lose. They understand it is game of chance and some win and others lose.

Btw,  hownare referrals snakey.

There are not, but lying to them is.

[broke_tradah]

The flaw in this strategy is obviously the retention of the referrals, because they will quickly figure out that they were duped and they will stop playing.  

There is a flaw in your flaw.

No, normal casino customers aren't being lied to that they can't lose. They understand it is game of chance and some win and others lose.

Btw,  hownare referrals snakey.

There are not, but lying to them is.

Really?  Lying to them huh.  How many posts do you see here where I use the word inevitable?  And how many times do you see me use the term 'too greedy'in my readme?  Where is this lying you speak of.  If you are attempting to say that math is a lie,  you have serious issues.  

I make no claim that the bot never loses.  I do however make the claim that I use time as an ally and push the inevitable so far into the future that its not likely to happen any time soon.  How is that a lie.  please explain and provide the math to back it up.

[TheQuin]

Really?  Lying to them huh.  How many posts do you see here where I use the word inevitable?  And how many times do you see me use the term 'too greedy'in my readme?  Where is this lying you speak of.  If you are attempting to say that math is a lie,  you have serious issues. 

From your website:

Therefore if I can help you bet MORE, LONGER without you losing

That is what makes you a lying scammer.

[broke_tradah]

Really?  Lying to them huh.  How many posts do you see here where I use the word inevitable?  And how many times do you see me use the term 'too greedy'in my readme?  Where is this lying you speak of.  If you are attempting to say that math is a lie,  you have serious issues.  

From your website:

Therefore if I can help you bet MORE, LONGER without you losing

That is what makes you a lying scammer.

Ahhh i see, so its your lack of intelligence to understand proper english that is the problem.  Read that a few times and tell me how it insuinates that it never loses.  Is english not your first language?  Maybe thats the issue.

While we are on the subject of snake'ish,  where exactly on the site does freebitco state their house edge in plain english?  It does do that right?  Like, they arent trying to hide anything in the math that some people probably dont do right?  I sure havent seen it.  I mean,  if we simply dont mention it,  its not lying?  Maybe I should remove the fact that the site stacks the deck and then I wont even have to mention the possible losses lol.  Ya maybe not mentioning it is a good plan since thats what freebitco does hahaha

[TheQuin]

Ahhh i see, so its your lack of intelligence to understand proper english that is the problem.  Read that a few times and tell me how it insuinates that it never loses.  Is english not your first language?  Maybe thats the issue.

I think you mean proper English.

It doesn't insinuate anything. It lies that you can help them bet longer withing losing. You can't.



(Also you need to replace the comma with 'for' to make it grammatically correct.)

[broke_tradah]

Hmm so you do understand what it means then and are just making up stories to be an ass.  It simply means you will be able to bet longer.  It says nothing about never losing.  How is that a lie.  At least it tells you that you will eventually lose,  thats more than I can say for freebitcos statement of "Why not try to multiply your bitcoins up to 4,750 times by playing a provably fair HI-LO game!"

Where is the warning of losing i  that statement? If anyone is lying,  I would say its freebitco if we are to use your logic.

What you are referring to as 'snakey' is called selective marketing.  Freebitco is FULL of it and my own readme has a slight hint of it because it doesnt specifically say something like if you do this to much you will lose..... O wait,  actually it DOES say that.  Right at the beginning.  Hmm so ya, we are still left with you just making up stories again.

You are insinuating that freebitco is some sort of angel and those that promote it are not.  Tell me,  how exactly does freebitco stand to lose to the point where it attacks possible revenue streams.

By your own logic,  freebitco should be paying me a crap ton with all this losing people are doing........ Or is it that your trying to hide something that could sink your battleship?  I think its the latter.

[TheQuin]

Hmm so you do understand what it means then and are just making up stories to be an ass.  It simply means you will be able to bet longer.

No, that is a lie. There is nothing that you are doing that will allow them to bet longer. All you are doing is risking a large amount to win a small amount. It's just another dice script, they could hit a losing streak that wipes them out straight out of the gate.

[broke_tradah]

Erm and how is that lying?  Are you saying it wouldnt take long to lose?  It says longer,  it doesnt say there is no possibility to lose.  It takes longer to lose if you bet tiny amounts.  How does that not compute?  Maybe you didnt see my live stream lol (which is STILL running btw,  even after my 0.04 withdrawal).

How do you explain my live stream btw?  I dont see you putting your money where your mouth is lol.  I certainly am.  Did it lose or did it win?  Did i lie about the withdrawal?  Did I lie about what I just proved in my live stream?  All the video evidence says otherwise.

So what is your motive?  Easy.  It does work and you dont wont people using it.  Its that simple.  Thats the only logical answer I can come up with.  Because if it makes people lose,  who stands to benefit from that.  Certainly NOT me thats for sure.  I only stand to benefit if people are successful in reproducing what I am doing on stream.  How do you not see that fact

Btw lets not forget that this was NOT some prerecorded video.  I did this live and its STILL live.  And we now have a BTC blockchain transaction to prove it was done live,  so save me the 'o its all staged' crap lol.  If anyone stands to lose a large amount,  its freebitco.  So I can see why you would attack a project like this.  But that doesnt mean I lie hahah.

TheQuin,  lets make this interesting.  Lets make a bet.  If my bot loses anytime this week while its running 24x7,  I will double what it loses and send it to you.  If it wins,  you send me the account balance it had at the end of the week.

You dont need to monitor it 24x7 since you can see btc transactions at any time.  I can also stream my deposit history if you like.

Are you still confident that I am lying now? Lets put your money where your mouth is shall we.

[TheQuin]

Erm and how is that lying?  Are you saying it wouldnt take long to lose?  It says longer,  it doesnt say there is no possibility to lose.  It takes longer to lose if you bet tiny amounts.  How does that not compute?  

You are not doing anything to make that happen. That's what you are lying about. It is still a pure chance when the losses will come. Using your script changes nothing, but you claim it does.

How do you explain my live stream btw?  I dont see you putting your money where your mouth is lol.  I certainly am.  Did it lose or did it when?  Did i lie about the withdrawal?  Did I lie about what I just proved in my live stream?  All the video evidence says otherwise.

They prove nothing. You just use them to fool your potential victims. Watching a live steam will mean most people don't see when you take a big loss. The withdrawals only prove that you are making money, not how you are making it.

So what is your motive?  Easy.  It does work and you dont wont people using it.  Its that simple.  Thats the only logical answer I can come up with.  Because if it makes people lose,  who stands to benefit from that.  Certainly NOT me thats for sure.  I only stand to benefit if people are successful in reproducing what I am doing on stream.  How do you not see that fact

It obviously makes us money as most of you're referrals will end losing whatever they deposit. I'm not actually here in an official capacity, I'd challenge any snake oil salesman that turns up on this forum with a dice script whatever site it is for. You can see from reading the other replies here that many others do the same.



BTW. You might want to check that your apostrophe key is working, you might need a new keyboard.

[broke_tradah]

Its the keyboard,  i am on a phone at and it sux lol   So how about it,  put your money where your mouth is which will debunk or confirm your lying accusations,  a friendly bet on my bots effectiveness  Hell i will even let you pick the time frame of how long it has to run before it loses  I will make sure that whatever timeframe you pick (anything over 1 day) that the bot will double its account without losing it all.

I would even think about letting you pick the amount it has to win but then you would just pick something stupidly greedy and that wouldnt fly.  Account doubling is more than sufficient.

Your turn,  do you have the balls to back up your blatent lies that i lie.  hahaha say that one 10x fast.

If i were in your shoes,  idk if i would take that bet since its already proven to be able to doubke its account in less than 3 days.  So you now have a hard choice lol.  Think I can reproduce that result?  I certainly do.  And i can even prove it has nothing to do with referrals.  I will even stream that too.

[TheQuin]

Its the keyboard,  i am on a phone at and it sux lol   So how about it,  put your money where your mouth is which will debunk or confirm your lying accusations,  a friendly bet on my bots effectiveness  Hell i will even let you pick the time frame of how long it has to run before it loses   I will make sure that whatever timeframe you pick (anything over 1 day) that the bot will double its account without losing it all.

I would even think about letting you pick the amount it has to win but then you would just pick something stupidly greedy and that wouldnt fly.

Your turn,  do you have the balls to back up your blatent lies that i lie.  hahaha say that one 10x fast.

Why don't you just put your personal stats page up on that live stream so everyone can see how much you have lost betting compared to how much you made out of your sucker referrals?

[broke_tradah]

ok,  i will do that.  You will see that its possitive  Done.  0.07 possitive for this demo account  Will this update in real time or do i have to keep refreshing it.

Noticr how the referrals amount to pretty much nothing.

[TheQuin]

ok,  i will do that.  You will see that its possitive   Done.  0.07 possitive for this demo account   Will this update in real time or do i have to keep refreshing it.

Damn, you're not getting much luck finding mugs for your referral income. Congrats on winning 0.077, we hope you keep playing 

[broke_tradah]

Ahh ok,  so we're back to this whole "Lying" thing again arent we.  Now is when you have a chance to apologize before I really embarrass you any further lol.  You really shouldnt lie about others man,  its simply not cool.  I just debunked your whole "Its all about referral" income claim.  Now what is your next excuse that I can readily help debunk.  This is for real man,  whether you want to believe it or not.  My viewers have been watching me for literally over a year using this bot to fund my trading account (which btw is also on the live stream).  This is no joke.  You have absolutely NO IDEA how many requests I got to release this thing.  But I absolutely REFUSED because if I released it in its form back then,  ANYONE could have used it and freebitco would have lasted maybe a day before it went bankrupt lol.  I only released it AFTER I put some sort of collar on it.  If I ever see it causing revenue problems for freebitco or feel its just being overused,  I can and will stop new referrals from being able to use it.  I could also limit it to how many could be running at any given time.  Thats not an issue right now,  so as of this very second,  it's completely open to any of my own referrals.

Freebitco has been a workhorse for me and I have no intention of changing that other than the plan to switch from actually using the bot,  to something more passive with referral income (again as I have stated before,  this was a suggestion by one of my viewers,  for a while I didnt even realize freebitco had referrals,  I simply didnt care to notice heh).  However,  I have 0 need for the referrals.  The only reason for change is simply to reduce the amount of time I spend on maintaining the account and restarting of the bot when it hits it's success levels.  Thats its,  it really is that simple  I have months of video history of using this bot and trading and emptying it to my evolve account, etc to back that up with.

BTW,  just so we are clear,  the account that this bot is currently setup with IS NOT THE SAME as the referral ID that is connected to the bot itself.  I did this on purpose so as not to skew the results of the bot itself because I foresaw people such as yourself who would claim that the account balance is coming from referrals and not the bot.

I almost forgot,  we still have a bet to settle.  You completely ignored the idea to put your money where your mouth is   What is your answer,  you have the gonads for it or not?

[TheQuin]

Ahh ok,  so we're back to this whole "Lying" thing again arent we.  Now is when you have a chance to apologize before I really embarrass you any further lol. 

Just because you got lucky it doesn't change that you are lying. Your script is doing nothing to make them win longer, which is what you claim. You conveniently ignored that when I pointed it out.

All any casino would like is for people to play. Some of them win and some lose. I'm actually happy for you that you've won a little for all your effort. If you keep playing you'll increase your chances of giving it all back.

You should read this from an honest bot writer:

https://steemit.com/gambling/@seuntjie/why-botting-doesn-t-work-at-casinos

[broke_tradah]

Thats great!  So how about it then,  a friendly bet on it's effectiveness?  If you're so sure of yourself,  it would be easy money right?  So whats up.  I can assure you I have PLENTY of BTC to wager  How about you?  You seem like someone who can spot easy money!  Let's make this interesting. lol

I'm calling you out the same way DougPolk did with Tone Vays.  $10kUSD in BTC was their bet.  I dont know if you have that kinda cash,  but if so,  lets do it up.  I have plenty,  whats your limit?

You seem SO sure of yourself that it would be stupid not to take the bet.  Tone Vays is NOT a betting man,  but he was so sure in his position,  that he grudgingly took the bet anyway.  I see you as the Tone Vays type.  Always so sure of themselves lol.

[TheQuin]

Thats great!  So how about it then,  a friendly bet on it's effectiveness?  If you're so sure of yourself,  it would be easy money right?  So whats up.

I've got no reason to bet on whether you win a bet. It is just a game of probabilities and chance. I do have a personal dislike for people that mislead other people into using scripts that'll probably result in them losing everything they deposit by making false claims about it.

Just because you got lucky it doesn't change that you are lying. Your script is doing nothing to make them win longer, which is what you claim. You conveniently ignored that when I pointed it out.

[broke_tradah]

That's just it.  You've only seen me win once.  I've seen me win countless times (as have quite a few others in my channel).  Luck has about as much to do with it as the color of my napkin has to do with the price of BTC (eating pizza atm).  How could you possibly turn down a sure win.  Hahaha.  Oh.  Wait,  that's right,  because you dont want people to realize that this process that I've outlined actually works well as it could sink freebitco.  A valid point..... if you admitted it,  it's not so valid if you keep ignoring that though.  Even I know it could sink freebitco,  otherwise I wouldnt have placed a collar on it.

  You think people losing to Freebitco is cool when they are not using any tools that would actually HELP them increase their chances,  but when they lose using a bot that changes the time frames,  it's somehow different.  Where is the logic in that hahaha.

Do you not realize that time and human emotions are the casino's WORST enemy IF the player realizes this?  Hmm I dont think you do realize it.  As I state in the readme,  this bot is a TOOL.  It's not a get rich "quick" thing.  It's a TOOL that stops the player from giving the casino their best advantage by far.... human emotion.  If players use the process I've outlined,  they will extend their playing time which in turn gives them more time to think about the "is it time to quit" conundrum.  If someone KNOWS they are going to lose at some point,  and they've been doing nothing but winning for a month,  do you really think they'll not take the opportunity to quit at the right time while they are ahead?  Maybe some of the compulsive types wont,  but a common sense person sure would.  I know I do and I prove it right on stream and it teaches others how to gamble with responsibility.  Something thats not possible without a tool if you're prone to bad quick decision making that is influenced by emotion.  Just let it do its thing and walk away.  Takes the emotion right out of it.  Thats what a bot does.  Casinos play on human emotions,  bots REMOVE that advantage.

IMO I think it's UTTERLY DISGUSTING that casinos play off human emotion and think it's cool (you seem to be in that camp with the casinos).