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January 28, 2014, 10:49:25 AM |
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anybody agrees that we will see lower bitcoin price ? 3 days more to go.
lower bitcoin price brings lower altcoin prices. so i think will waite a bit longer.
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 11:12:08 AM |
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Guys, I just got hoosebumps... Ran my MoonCoin client today after like 5 days to see something or someone sent 71,800,000 MoonCoins elsewhere... I really don't know how this happened I have my moonCoin wallet.dat stored at 3 places, but renamed it (however, I left the .dat extension). I recently found out that one of my computers has some kind of virus in it, which was mining ProtoShares and was eating up my RAM and stuff, so I guess that might have something with it. So I am left with 11,000,000 MoonCoins now and sad I bought them really low (2 and 3 satoshi), so I was very happy with moon progress. Now I can only cry The address MoonCoin got withdrawn to is 2X96dqWs2T6ToBDXAj24DXxZuHfwcSU68A. I know there ain't much helping me now. I just withdrew them from coinex to make them more secure (in case of hack or something), and now it seems I got hacked, for the first time in my life
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Basnoff
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January 28, 2014, 11:40:35 AM |
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Damn... That's aweful michalbb...
Just some tips, although too late: Find a better way to store your wallets. I'd suggest a linux distro with a decent reputation. If you're not comfortable with it use an old laptop or a cheap new mini PC or something. Compile the wallets yourself from the original source (with Qt-creator it's fairly simple, takes about 8 minutes on my old laptop). Use filesystem encryption or encrypt the wallet manually (for instance with KGPG).
Store wallets on a hardware encrypted USB stick/disk. Search for IronKey or datAshur, there's a few other brands but these I know will work with any OS. Use long random strings for passwords, store them on paper in a safe or something similar.
Best of luck!
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 11:48:14 AM |
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Yes, that's awful...
I'm in Bitcoin World more than two years now, and such thing has never happened to me. I still think that the MoonCoin was stolen because I have my wallet on my workplace computer. I don't have full access of things here, so it may be possible that my workplace computer is virused and that's why. I mean, if my personal, home computer was hacked, I guess attacker would also steal Bitcoins, not only MoonCoins, right?
I should have made MoonCoin wallet on my home computer, or as you are saying encrypted USB / dedicated wallet computer with some Linux distro etc... But this is first time in my life, so I will take precautions and secure all my Bitcoins and other coins. I consider buying Computer for that, I made nice profits since I'm in Bitcoin anyway, but this one was just great decision I was proud on, and now it's gone :/
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January 28, 2014, 11:59:03 AM |
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Dont forget this! Eventual Donation site: http://www.spacecamp.com/scholarshipfundCurrent donors 1. adsoyo - 200,000 MOON 2. madcoin - 500,000 MOON 3. Fayens - 2,500,000 MOON 4. eskamilio - 600,000 MOON 5. FiatKiller - 1,000,000 MOON 6. DRobert - 250,000 MOON 7. nosf009 - 250,000 MOON 8. vegus - 1,000,000 MOON 9. mooncointalk.info - 1,000,000 MOON 10. b4dger - 100,000 MOON 11. puvar - 500,000 MOON 12. Wekkel - 1,500,000 MOON 13. rtopz - 150,000 MOON 14. JoeRigs - 600,000 MOON 15. i8 - 200,000 MOON 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. TOTAL: 10,100,000 MOON Copy/Paste The list,donation site, and add yourself (for donation) it will keep the list self organised and clean.
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TIPS: EL3uQ4dXKyEKPxVkbtFv4AjsZMuhsZY67K • Thanks for the Tip
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January 28, 2014, 12:01:40 PM |
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8< I still think that the MoonCoin was stolen because I have my wallet on my workplace computer. I don't have full access of things here, so it may be possible that my workplace computer is virused and that's why. I mean, if my personal, home computer was hacked, I guess attacker would also steal Bitcoins, not only MoonCoins, right? 8<
That was a terrible idea, putting your wallet on your workplace computer. Viruses? IT guys have full file access from anywhere on the network... that's probably the biggest threat.
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Basnoff
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January 28, 2014, 12:03:16 PM |
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Michalbb,
Yeah, if it's a work computer then you probably won't be able to use linux on that. The HW encrypted USB would probably be the best option then.
FWIW, I know my previous employer used fairly intrusive monitoring software. As in they could see just about everything, including passwords and the such. Not sure if that applies to your situation but it is something to watch out for.
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 12:05:34 PM |
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Well, we are a small company, like 10 IT people here, I know all of them for a pretty long time. I doubt it would be one of them. But someone from outside of IT department could do it theoretically, some other admins or whatever. Though I doubt it. Anyway, it's my mistake, and one must pay for mistakes. I will learn from it now. Time to move on only and reconcile to it :/ EDIT: Anyway, I put only like 3 BTC to MoonCoins, that's not gonna ruin me. The question is, how much could I have had from it. And even though I am pretty peaceful person and few things can disturb me, this shaked me inside a bit, as I'm not computer and Bitcoin n00b. Never thought this can happen to me
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January 28, 2014, 12:06:46 PM |
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Hope to see Mooncoins starting to make some rebound.
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 12:37:45 PM |
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And one important thing to say, or to detect failure - the MoonCoin got sent AFTER I ran the client today, exactly on 28.01.2014 11:59 (GMT +1). It may be a coincidence of course, although I doubt it.
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January 28, 2014, 12:53:33 PM |
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Michalbb,
Since your in IT and it happened at work; are you logging the traffic/suspicious behavior?
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 01:08:46 PM |
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No, I don't know about any logger software installed.
I also found out, that this is my wallet version:
Mooncoin version v0.6.4.0-unk-beta
I thought I have 0.7.0 version installed. But the number seems kinda suspicious. What do you guys think?
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Basnoff
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January 28, 2014, 01:15:05 PM |
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I only have 0.6.3 (source). To check the windows versions I'd have to fire up a VM, I don't use windows at home. Also I noticed the latest source on github is 0.6.3 and is a month old... Are the Windows/Mac wallets more recent?
(Might start VMWare later today.)
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yes
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January 28, 2014, 01:16:33 PM |
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Version 0.6.4.0 looks like a normal version to me.
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January 28, 2014, 01:24:22 PM Last edit: January 28, 2014, 01:45:49 PM by Basnoff |
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Would be nice if the devs would update GitHub then! Edit: nvm, it's 0.6.4, they just didn't update the mooncoin-qt.pro file (that's where it reads 0.6.3).
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 01:43:26 PM |
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So my wallet must have been compromised then somehow.
I did have it on 3 places - private key in a completely random txt file with unrelated name in my mobile phone, renamed wallet.dat on my home computer in a root of E: partition (which had the jhProtominer.exe recently, which I removed later, really don't have a clue where it came from), and original wallet at workplace. I doubt that Private Key was stolen from mobile, my home computer may be an issue, but then again, the wallet was renamed plus it wasn't in default MoonCoin location, and my workplace original wallet (where appdata are stored elsewhere than default location too). This is so strange.
Also, two transactions happened. 71,800,000 MOON and 52019 MOON, both to different addresses. I wonder why would thief leave me with 75,000 MOON then.
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January 28, 2014, 01:45:52 PM |
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Yes, that's awful...
I'm in Bitcoin World more than two years now, and such thing has never happened to me. I still think that the MoonCoin was stolen because I have my wallet on my workplace computer. I don't have full access of things here, so it may be possible that my workplace computer is virused and that's why. I mean, if my personal, home computer was hacked, I guess attacker would also steal Bitcoins, not only MoonCoins, right?
I should have made MoonCoin wallet on my home computer, or as you are saying encrypted USB / dedicated wallet computer with some Linux distro etc... But this is first time in my life, so I will take precautions and secure all my Bitcoins and other coins. I consider buying Computer for that, I made nice profits since I'm in Bitcoin anyway, but this one was just great decision I was proud on, and now it's gone :/
no, you downloaded the orig wallet with a virus in it. redownload the wallet and you will be safe. I've had 35 mill in my wallet with no issues.
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January 28, 2014, 01:49:23 PM |
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michalbb,
I have the same wallet version, 0.6.4.0-unk-beta, and it's the source from GitHub. I got fooled by the mooncoin-qt.pro file where it reads 0.6.3 (yet it builds 0.6.4.0-unk-beta). Strange.
I'll try the latest win-version in a VM later today.
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FiatKiller
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January 28, 2014, 01:49:42 PM |
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I'm pretty much all in with Moon now. It is either it goes up or I made the a shitty speculative investment that will kick me out of crypto trading completely.
Just hold them longterm. Months, if you have to.
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michalbb
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January 28, 2014, 01:52:26 PM |
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Yes, that's awful...
I'm in Bitcoin World more than two years now, and such thing has never happened to me. I still think that the MoonCoin was stolen because I have my wallet on my workplace computer. I don't have full access of things here, so it may be possible that my workplace computer is virused and that's why. I mean, if my personal, home computer was hacked, I guess attacker would also steal Bitcoins, not only MoonCoins, right?
I should have made MoonCoin wallet on my home computer, or as you are saying encrypted USB / dedicated wallet computer with some Linux distro etc... But this is first time in my life, so I will take precautions and secure all my Bitcoins and other coins. I consider buying Computer for that, I made nice profits since I'm in Bitcoin anyway, but this one was just great decision I was proud on, and now it's gone :/
no, you downloaded the orig wallet with a virus in it. redownload the wallet and you will be safe. I've had 35 mill in my wallet with no issues. Are you sure I downloaded wallet with virus? If I recall correctly, it was from download.mooncoin.info, which should be official address. How can this be possible?
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