I found this site few days ago and bought mining shares, and have been getting 1.42% return every day. I'm using the returns to buy a smaller amount of trading shares.

https://bitcoin-trader.biz/opportunities.php

Full disclosure: I am not related to this site in any way, shape or form.

Hi, I have been using the site since mid December.

You do have to be careful where you put your coins.   The site has some . . . well, issues.   A .biz suffix for one, but also they work out of the UK (trading stops on UK holidays) but are incorporated in Panama with no locational address or phyiscal contact method.  

They also have glowing reviews from all over the world posted on their site after only a month of operation.  It feels like trying too hard.

That said, I did take a chance and invest some coins.  
I contacted them about my concerns (after I invested a few coins) and they were responsive and discussed things with me.
Their backend is pretty sophisticated and you can withdraw your earnings at any time without fees.  If it is a scam, it's had a lot of work put into it.  

They do post their results publicly and the returns were really good in December.
https://bitcoin-trader.biz/results.php
It opened up in November just before the price explosion, and the mining results that they posted for that month were much less dramatic.  I have a mix of trading and mining shares and I have made about 30% of my original investment back, and I've withdrawn about half of that and reinvested about half.
One very good thing I like about the site is that once you deposit bitcoin, your balance stays denominated in U.S. dollars AT THE RATE WHEN THE DEPOSIT WAS CREDITED, and your earnings are denominated in dollars so you are protected against price declines. (flip side is you don't benefit from price increases, but I think declines are more likely in the mid-term. Anyway you can ride the market rate if you cash out everyday.)  When you want to withdraw, they convert your dollar withdrawal amount to bitcoin and send them to you, although they only process withdrawals once each day monday thru friday (I think it's 1600 GMT)

I'm treating it like any other investment and only putting in what I am willing to lose.  Personally, I recognize it could possibly be a long term scam, or even if its sincere could just fail as a business eventually, but I think it's good for a mid-term investment.
If you want to give it a try, here is my referral link.
https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref= [ref removed]

In fact, for anybody who signs up using my referral link, I'll buy you a trading share.  
Just post (or pm me, but it's easier to see who is 'first' if you post here) your username and user number after you sign up and once it shows up in my downline, I'll send you $20 worth of bitcoin. (They use the Mt. Gox Coindesk rate)

DISCLAIMER:
I am not associated with the site in any way.

That are two different sites, I don't know anything about bitcoin-trade. With bitcoin-trader.biz however, I have been since pre-launch, since a very well known promoter with an impeccable track record (he don't promote any crap) invited me there. So far they kept their promises and since I've invested in the mining pool I am already in profit.

Very impressive track record in my opinion, for their short time online, and we will see in the months to come if they can deliver all the time.

I checked a little bit around and found that bitcoin-trade.biz considers itself as a so called HYIP. They are marketing bitcoin-trade.biz on multiple HYIP related sites and are heavily discussed on the well known ponzi forums.

The other day I was supposed to contact bitcoin-trader.biz to ask them about bitcoin-trade.biz. On the contact page at https://bitcoin-trader.biz/contact.php I've noticed some HYIP related statements, or lets rather say "Anti HYIP" related statements.

So I contated them anyway and received the following statement from Michael Brandenburg:

How does it sound exactly like a HYIP? I like sites that are trying to stay as much away from the HYIP industry as they can. Otherwise we must consider cloudhashing.com and cex.io as HYIP's as well. Anyway, time will tell - for now I am very satisfied.

But one thing is for sure, bitcoin-trade.biz is a HYIP - just follow all the ponzi forums, especially the russian ones....

Yeah I know. I was looking for a place where BT is publicly discussed and this one is the only I found. The pre launch was by invitation only and apart from the promoters each participant was only allowed to invite one more person to get familiar with the system, making testnet deposits and withdrawals etc. It was not a cold contact, I am on the mailing list of my upline since a few years and he invited me to join some great and profitable PAMM accounts in the past.

A good question.  I have been talking with their support as well, (Michael Brandenburg).  In addition to repeating the anti-HYIP statements he gave illinois he also gave some more info about their business.   I did get a physical address from him in Panama, (Calle 53, Marbella, Av José de la Cruz Herrera, Panama) but he did say their 'principal place of business' was in London.

I also did get some more details on how their business works.
A mining share buys you a set percentage of their total hashing power. (Right now it is 6 GH/s)  As they add more hashing power, the amount of hash your old shares command will increase.  He also said that they have ordered more hardware which will be online in april. (We'll see!) and stated that a mining share does not accumulate negative returns like the trading shares can.  

The trading shares he gave less details on but apparently you are entitled to a set % of the profits.  The Russian site claimed to be splitting it with investors 50/50 and the two sites are giving very similar returns.

If he is telling the truth, it's a legit business that could work.  They're basically selling you a mining contract or using your capital to increase trade volume.  I suppose one  target would be people who want some of that bitcoin money but don't want to actually do all the hassle of mining or day trading for it themselves, or people who don't have time for it.  

By the way, my offer to buy up to 5 people a share is still open.  
https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref= [ref removed]

Friend of mine pointed me at this. I had a BTC or two sitting in a cold wallet doin' nothin' anyway, so I figured I'd give it a try. Will see what kind of return % i see. They advertise up to 3% daily on the trading shares, but historically, it looks more like 1.5%-2% is the average.

Now we play....the waiting game.



Man, the waiting game sucks. Let's play "Hungry, Hungry Hippos"!

I am having a bit of mental discord. Doesn't having an affiliate link in one's post explicitly demonstrate that there is indeed a relationship? 

Well, it's been about 4 trading days, and while it's not get-rich-quick, it's definitely paying out and producing steady earnings.   I had no problem at all cashing out my earnings to my BTC wallet.

Will keep on keeping on and see what happens at the 120 day mark (when my trading shares time out and my initial investment is returned to me). As others have said, support is pretty responsive, friendly and helpful.  Brandenburg is pretty open and transparent about the operation.  Feels good, bro.


https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref= [ref removed]