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December 31, 2013, 06:43:48 PM
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What happened: On December 28th I sent user projects 4.5 btc for boa. I have never received any boa funds and have asked for my btc back and haven't received that either. I feel I have given him a fair amount of time to make this right, all time frames he has given me for taking care of this have been missed

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52439:

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Amount Scammed: 4.5 btc
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/address/17HwbH8agbuyFr7iQ4mdcdNqQCHupfPME
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December 31, 2013, 06:46:01 PM
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I can forward any pms to any moderator or such on here confirm that is the btc address he provided me. I asked for my btc back and was told he couldn't send them back as he was not at home on his computer, after looking through his blockchain and seeing btc leave it was obviously all a lie too.
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December 31, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
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I can forward any pms to any moderator or such on here confirm that is the btc address he provided me. I asked for my btc back and was told he couldn't send them back as he was not at home on his computer, after looking through his blockchain and seeing btc leave it was obviously all a lie too.

Maybe he is using phone and doesn't have 4,5btc on his phone?

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December 31, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
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Honestly man, I don't think Projects is out to scam you. He probably just got slammed with real-life stuff and we'll eventually follow through with his end of the deal. Nevertheless, I've given him a negative rating which I'll remove once this issue is settled.

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December 31, 2013, 08:04:43 PM
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Holdaaja: 5 bitcoins have left that account today and  I haven't received any messages, at the very least this trade has been handled poorly regardless of what's going on in his life. If he can make time to move coins around he can make time to send me boa or btc.
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December 31, 2013, 11:40:41 PM
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Holdaaja: 5 bitcoins have left that account today and  I haven't received any messages, at the very least this trade has been handled poorly regardless of what's going on in his life. If he can make time to move coins around he can make time to send me boa or btc.


sorry if i've missed this but are you sure it is not a web/shared wallet? many web wallets shuffle funds around from addresses without necessarily moving it from the account

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January 01, 2014, 11:17:42 AM
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Projects PM me 30/12/13:

Hi mark can't do escrow as I need the btc today to buy something but check my trust feedback I'm highly trusted and have more feedback than most escrows for 3.5 each ill include corsair psu and all cables etc ready for you to plug and play I'm in the eu too and can post in a few hours if you send me the btc soon I could do 3x them for 9.5 also if interested they're 180gh miners let me know if you have any questions

I sent to him 2.999 BTC for one antminer and one psu.  (Another PM: Ok send it to 17HwbH8agbuyFr7iQ4mdcdNqQCHupfPME and give me your address ill ship it within a few hours and send you the tracking)

I do not know how to give you proof that, if I explained I feel.

Last PM: All ok ill have the tracking for you in about 3 h when its posted 

After this, the silence...
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January 01, 2014, 11:48:51 AM
Last edit: January 01, 2014, 12:09:54 PM by ppprk
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I think Projects 100% confirmed scammer as they already scammed 2 peoples and also they keep sending private messages to all forum peoples whose looking selling BTC and they asking send them all BTCs first and Never accept escrow

they also send me email as below

Quote from: Projects on December 28, 2013, 06:23:57 PM
Hi I can buy 3 btc for mtgox rate with moneygram ill pay fees check my feedback I'm a trusted trader here I'd need you to send first


then I replied and asked that we can use escrow for safe both parties and they replied as below again

December 28, 2013, 07:00:05 PM »

Sorry I never use escrow and I can't do multiple trades fees are so expensive that way check all the trades I've done and I always receive the btc first

Extream Caution Never send any money FIRST to "Projects" until resolved all scam cases here

this guy projects MUST got removed all positive ratings and got Negative ratings with RED color otherwise they can easily scam many new peoples as they ratings still in green color
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January 01, 2014, 02:14:24 PM
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I think it's highly unlikely that Projects is trying to scam anyone. For the last year or so he has been a solid member of the community. I have personally bought and sold bitcoin from him in the past with no problems whatsoever.

On the other hand his account may have been hacked. Here's hoping that it all gets resolved.
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January 01, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
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I now believe he is a scammer, too.

We had a deal about some KnC-Miner for 24.000,- €.

I sent him the money (BTC) and he said he shipped the units.
But the only thing that arrived is a puppet!

He told me the package has beend swaped.

He wont send me a proof of the shipping!


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January 01, 2014, 04:31:03 PM
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In the event his account was so called hacked, why would someone remove all his bump posts in his buying thread from the month of December? He would be trying to get as many btc from people as possible not deleting posts hurting his chance of getting more btc. It wasn't hacked and he needs to fix this mess
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January 01, 2014, 04:43:55 PM
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Projects owed me 51.4 BTC and he loaned an additional 14.5 BTC for the week 23 - -> 30 Dec.

Has anyone heard ANYTHING from him? Projects seemed so trustworthy (I had been dealing with him for a year now). Is this another long con? Fuck this ...
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January 01, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
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He has taken lots of big loans, I would assume someone has his contact info and a way to get ahold of him besides this site.
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January 01, 2014, 05:32:36 PM
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In my opinion he deleted all his posts from December to come on at a later date and say last time I posted was November, my account was hacked blah blah.
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January 01, 2014, 05:40:38 PM
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Unfortunately I have to add to this - 20btc for KnC miners, nothing received for over a month. This was prior to any of these scam allegations and I send funds to the public wallet on his account.

More fool me, perhaps ... but isn't that what a trust rating is supposed to be about?
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January 01, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
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Impossible,he made a periodic payment to me on Sun Dec 22nd and asked for a loan extension the day after. Both using the same email address.

I still hope this is all a misunderstanding and he's just AWOL for new years, but I'm beginning to feel increasingly naive about that though.
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January 01, 2014, 11:13:54 PM
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I do not understand why none of you have reported anything before. Absurd.
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January 01, 2014, 11:47:46 PM
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I don't know what the full situation is, but I had a good experience buying 40 coins off ubettercall and sincerely hope you get your coins back. I will be leaving projects negative trust until this is resolved.

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January 01, 2014, 11:57:40 PM
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He has done money gram trades and I would assume he has to give name and details for that. I'm sure someone who has traded with him has his personal contact info.
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January 01, 2014, 11:59:53 PM
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I will have to add to this:

http://blockchain.info/address/1CdESARQzo3q5s22f6icA8E6fZysEcEgX6

Sent him 6.1 BTC on 12/30 for 2 antminers. No escrow done seeing as he had trust and feedback with the community.

His response on December 30, 2013, 08:52:05 PM (after payment):

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Ok will have the tracking for you in a few hours

Money looks to have been moved out of that wallet about an hour afterwards.

No tracking info given, no package received, will give him the benefit of the doubt for a few more days seeing as his last online time was right around when that message was sent. (Plus it's the holidays.)

Not posting negative trust on his profile just yet, he may must be busy.
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