Chainsaw
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January 07, 2014, 02:40:45 PM |
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I filed my fraud report here. After speaking with their online help, I was told the following: When you submit your report to Action Fraud, it goes to the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau which is based within the City of London police. I included all my details, and also included any emails, phone numbers, and 2-of-the-3 bank accounts (the max I could) that were from someone else. I would strongly encourage anyone else affected to do the same, and quickly, so the department will realize this is what I claim, and your losses can be wrapped up in the same effort. The message from the end of the report submission (which took me approximately 40 minutes): If you know anyone else who believes they have been a victim of fraud who wants to report the incident please ask them to complete the online report found at www.actionfraud.police.uk, or phone the contact centre on 0300 123 2040. I filed a fraud report on Projects last Friday. So far, I have only received the automated "we have received your message". When I asked them whether I should also contact the police, they told me it would be redundant based on the NFIB being part of the City of London police. That said, I would be thrilled to find out other efforts were also underway to find this guy. It seems he is either a very smart or a very stupid criminal, given how much real life information he has made available. If it represents his true identity, it seems like he should already be in jail. Ideas I have seen generated include: -lawyers -one individual offered to convert his stolen 10 BTC into a gift if Projects returned the rest -private investigators (I was given a URL for a PI in his town) escrow.ms seems to be centralizing/leading the charge going forward (thank you!!!).
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shawshankinmate37927
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January 07, 2014, 03:07:57 PM |
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Other than Chainsaw, has anyone else that was scammed been in contact with law enforcement and filed a police report? If you are going to let us know that you were scammed, wouldn't you also want the police to know? I realize the police likely aren't going to be able to retrieve any stolen BTC, but with your assistance at least they can investigate, file charges, prosecute him, and hopefully put him in prison for a while.
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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
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Nightowlace
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January 07, 2014, 04:22:06 PM |
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You guys should all exchange email addresses and discuss this *off the forum* Any actions you guys are taking and updating here prior too or as you're doing them are available to anyone too see including "projects". He may have already registered a new account and is watching and reading this giving him the upper hand.
Please post updates so that we can see progress but do not post anymore actions you plan to take or if/when people know his location. He has a half million dollars to move around with. Keep your actions private and update results.
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semaster
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January 07, 2014, 05:42:59 PM |
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I filed a fraud report on Projects last Friday. So far, I have only received the automated "we have received your message". When I asked them whether I should also contact the police, they told me it would be redundant based on the NFIB being part of the City of London police.
That said, I would be thrilled to find out other efforts were also underway to find this guy. It seems he is either a very smart or a very stupid criminal, given how much real life information he has made available. If it represents his true identity, it seems like he should already be in jail.
Ideas I have seen generated include: -lawyers -one individual offered to convert his stolen 10 BTC into a gift if Projects returned the rest -private investigators (I was given a URL for a PI in his town)
escrow.ms seems to be centralizing/leading the charge going forward (thank you!!!).
I cannot file report as I'm outside Europe. But I'm ready to give half (6btc) of total 12bitcoins that was stolen from me by Projects in case if some detective or lawyers will find person who is behind the name Projects and draws him to justice
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shawshankinmate37927
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January 07, 2014, 06:16:21 PM |
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I cannot file report as I'm outside Europe. But I'm ready to give half (6btc) of total 12bitcoins that was stolen from me by Projects in case if some detective or lawyers will find person who is behind the name Projects and draws him to justice
Chainsaw is located in the USA, but he still filed a report. He has even provided a link to the website where you can report the crime in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393593.msg4292830#msg4292830
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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
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Ban Curtain
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January 07, 2014, 06:20:24 PM |
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Wow, I felt that one day Projects will be announced to be a scammer. I've stuck with his scamming behavior in early summer, what a pity I had too little trust to be trustworthy for others that days.
Good luck in investigations! I hope Truth and Justice help to win
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escrow.ms
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January 07, 2014, 06:54:26 PM |
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So far I have gotten messages and mails from few users. Everyone who got scammed please post your email id's or pm me so I can contact you or you can send me a email with all the info you have. Please don't forget to give transaction id's of the payment you have sent to projects.
Currently there are alot users who are saying they got scammed but only few have posted transaction id's.
Ps: As Chainsaw and shawshank said, if you got scammed by him, please file a report on that site.
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josg21
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January 07, 2014, 07:01:37 PM |
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sorry for my delay. He scammed me out of 15btc
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escrow.ms
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January 07, 2014, 07:06:32 PM |
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Updated
Username | Amount Scammed ubettercall | 4.5 mabipa125 | 3 BTC Truman |33 BTC wachtwoord |66.4 BTC KCmining |20 BTC gmoney1 | 6.1 BTC semaster |12 BTC Chainsaw |201.7 BTC gingpark |93 BTC FlensGold |18 BTC josg21 |15 BTC 1l1l11ll1l |10 BTC gudmunsn | 2.25 BTC BiTCluE | 5 BTC ----------------------------------------------- (Total 489.95 Bitcoins) -----------------------------------------------
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BCJ
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January 07, 2014, 07:08:07 PM |
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Is someone also collecting personal information on Projects. I'm sure between us we have all the banks accounts and emails and locations he's been using.
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escrow.ms
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January 07, 2014, 07:36:26 PM |
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Is someone also collecting personal information on Projects. I'm sure between us we have all the banks accounts and emails and locations he's been using.
I am trying to collect.
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1l1l11ll1l
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January 07, 2014, 09:01:13 PM |
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Date Nov 30th Amount 25BTC
TX ID a5013ed712bbadc1885778e61610705784b316d267cf8157ebaf7706450add5d
recipient: 1HtnBMkVCPvJo2fHBRMUz8UtEgiFk2KksH
Then his refund:
Amount 10BCT tx: f1172d8c79d62134db16c57c561d6abd63138314bf3a23842986ef275abc092d
Amount 5BTC tx: 2c7d6dc35dc35e270ef51eb7bfd59d3e3d00b2e2645a099515c1eb06128f044f
Either he got himself into trouble and needed the money, thus trying to make us "okay" with his scam being glad we could recover some of what we lost due to "shipping" problems, or else he was simply trying to delay getting a torrent of negative trust ratings so he could continue to scam more and more.
His original offer to me was 1BTC per week for 25 weeks.
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Pistachio
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January 08, 2014, 01:03:06 AM |
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UpdatedUsername | Amount Scammedubettercall | 4.5 mabipa125 | 3 BTC Truman |33 BTC wachtwoord |66.4 BTC KCmining |20 BTC gmoney1 | 6.1 BTC semaster |12 BTC Chainsaw |201.7 BTC gingpark |93 BTC FlensGold |18 BTC josg21 |15 BTC 1l1l11ll1l |10 BTC gudmunsn | 2.25 BTC BiTCluE | 5 BTC ----------------------------------------------- (Total 489.95 Bitcoins)----------------------------------------------- You need to add mine. I guess it's time to get this out in the open. Here is my first payment sent of 12.5 BTC to Projects on Dec. 9, 2013 for a Jupiter. Here is my second payment sent of 4.7 BTC on Dec. 10, 2013 for a Saturn. Here is the tracking number he sent me after a few days. RJ315893736GB
Here is his explanation of why he gave me a bogus tracking number that delivered a package to a hotel in Wisconsin call the Wilderness Resort. OK I am going to look into this and please do leave off any public discussions, we can resolve this between us to your full satisfaction I am sure without the need for ruining my hard earned rep (again I am not a scammer else I wouldnt care about any of this). Royal mail is closed now and their tracking still has not updated - I know for a fact I did not send a package to that address so something is wrong somewhere. But rest assured you will not lose out. I will speak to them in the morning and let you know when I am home from work the outcome (around this time tomorrow) I am really sorry for this but like I said do not panic you have not been scammed.
then If you can send me a BTC address so I can send you 25% back of the funds you sent to me as a show of good faith that I am looking into this I would appreciate it - just so you know I am not trying anything on here. I genuinely do not know what has happened but hopefully this will reassure you. If the package does arrive you can repay me and if it does not we can work something out to which you are happy with, I hope this is agreeable to you.
then OK I will do this when I am home, out for dinner at the moment but will be in a few hours time. I will send 4.2 BTC which means if it does turn up you need to repay the 4.2 - if there is a problem the outstanding amount you have still paid is 13 BTC and we will need to try to sort something out if thats the case as I did ship the goods as it will be a huge loss for me, but I will work with you should that be the case. I hope this reassures you and you are happy with this outcome? To recap I will send 4.2 BTC to the address you just sent me within 4h, speak with Royal Mail tomorrow on my lunch break at work and then update you of the situation around this time tomorrow night. Is that all OK with you? Are you happy with this ? Again I can only apologise for this and I am hoping it is just a simple mistake that I have given you the wrong tracking number and your package will be ariving very soon.
Kind Regards, Projects
He did send me 4.2 BTC https://blockchain.info/tx/d233e9d1b95ff42cf8df301105d0649b814ce8dd02ce7b4c7f0d93a9a27df960then, I did purchase insurance but unfortunately I did not declare it at full value so you would not be charged big customs fees which is my fault I guess but I was trying to do you a favor there isn't much options left I have filed an enquiry which if its found to be delivered to a different address I probably will get some money from the insurance but only a quarter of the true value and I may not get that back for up to 6 months in past experience I'm pretty annoyed as this isn't the only package that's gone missing I've sent my losses this month are huge and I'm not very wealthy so not sure how I can cover everything
I can probably offer you two options now these are in good faith and open for discussion I'm not forcing you to do anything you do t want all I ask is you keep this private so I can keep my rep intact to try to earn more money here to recover from my huge losses
The two options I have in mind is if you accept 50% refund in full now I can probably manage to scrape that together I don't know if this is more valuable to you than me giving you a full refund over time which is the second option if you allow me to repay the 13 btc over 6 months or so which I know is far from ideal but I just don't have it I've lost the equipment too so it's a huge loss to me
What do you think again please keep this between us as I'm really trying to work it out with you but if my reps ruined here I'm finished as this is more than half my income
then his last message to me. Hi - please can I get a BTC address to start the repayments to you? I have had another two miners get lost this week so I am really not feeling too good, what I could ask is if someone writes a thread about this you do not let anyone know I have agreed to refund you in full? I am not going to be able to refund everyone in full but I have already made the agreement with you. I am trying to preserve my reputation the best I can to ensure I can repay what I can due to this huge mistake of using Royal Mail.
Final grand total was 13 BTC scammed by projects. Please add me to any lawsuit or other legal (or otherwise) pursuit of projects for funds scammed.
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BurtW
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
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January 08, 2014, 01:17:03 AM |
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This is all such a shame. Projects was one of my best customers. I loaned him a lot of BTC over the years and he always paid me back. I closed up my lending business a while back (too many scammers to ever make a profit) so I did not lose anything in this case.
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Nightowlace
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January 08, 2014, 01:46:02 AM |
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From reading all of these posts it sounds as though Projects had a serious drug or gambling problem. Always taking one loan to pay another. Selling fake hardware to one person to repay another person. All while keeping a few (sometimes more) B from each and the purchaser chalking it up as a loss and a lesson. My guess is gambling. probably pissed it all away hoping to make it all back each time and finally realized he is in way to deep.
I would check with the gaming sites and see if any deposits came in on the same days for the same amounts scammed.
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Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
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January 08, 2014, 01:51:55 AM |
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tired to scam me i guess in a private sale of 4 KNC miners at 20BTC each, insisted he was trust worthy and had never needed to use escrow in the past. He told me it was no escrow or no deal, so it was no deal. Shady F*cker!
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josg21
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January 08, 2014, 03:55:59 AM |
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I have a thought. Perhaps we can put a "pool" together of money to find him. This way we can leverage the scale of all of us and get the most out of the money spent.
I am more then willing to contribute.
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January 08, 2014, 03:57:13 AM |
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I have a thought. Perhaps we can put a "pool" together of money to find him. This way we can leverage the scale of all of us and get the most out of the money spent.
I am more then willing to contribute.
I thought about this too, and I would be willing to contribute, but not being in the UK is a killer for spearheading this effort.
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