Scryptpools money trail

[smapdi]

Yep. Site's gonezo.

[clueclub]

Please keep replies to this post informative.  This thread is not the place for you to promote your pool or mock people who lost doge to this scampool  I will update the post with any further information you guys dig up.

the following is from my earlier post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404112.msg4374082#msg4374082

im sure someone is chomping at the bit (pardon the pun) to debunk me.

ill try my best to explain what i think i know. i didnt have an account, and the rules restrict me to posting bla bla bla....

so i was researching ideas for a doge coin based game. i ended up at the dogecoin forums. go fig.

they have a crowd-sourcing section, dogestarter. there was one post that caught my eye. a "team" of devs with one game already published and available on the app market. i thought these might be some good guys to try and team up with, so, performing my due diligence, i checked the other posts by this id, as there were only 6. all posts were similar in nature, suggesting skills, upcoming releases, and a donation address. there were like 3 or 4 listed between the different posts. i decided to do some blocksniffing. there were a few donations coming in, mostly small, but they all were sent out almost immediately. hmmm.

i followed one of the larger moves for 30k. that went to a wallet that was empty. 2 transactions. a few hundred shaved off with the bulk transferred to another wallet. hmmm.

this went on and on and on. tx, split, tx, split. i must have went 15-20 pages following along. this was a major deal. im aware of the concept of a tumbler, but this was different. i eventually wound up at a wallet that had over 2 billion doge with few sends. finally, the dragons horde!

after a few minutes in a chat-room, i hear about the scryptpool fiasco and i was given this link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397762.0

the final wallet address is the same one i came to after following the chain, starting with the donation address for these game "devs". ill let you perform your own due diligence and track things for yourself.

start here.
http://doges.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=6092

follow those wallet addresses, im guessing they all end up the same place.

if you search for the business name listed by the user id it returns the company website and a linkedin profile for the company ceo. so it appears to me the user id from dogecoin forum is also in control of the 2 billion doge wallet that "stolen" payouts from scryptpool were transferred to.

so, for the ones slower than me.
dogecoin forum
forum id
wallet address match
2 billion doge balance
company website
linkedin profile

ps. i saved all relevant pages, at dogeforum and linkedin in the event they go 404.

whenever there's trouble, we're there on the double.
clueclub

[clshades]

I will delete this post upon editing the above post. Please add to the 2 billion dogecoin amount in bitcoin and USD dollars please so that we can proceed. The authorities will want a dollar amount. And even in todays value its a shit ton. I would assume that the bulk was unloaded December 28th.

at the time coin was worth .00000065 BTC December 28th on https://vircurex.com/orders?alt=doge&base=btc

He made another big dump on the exchange today too.

[smapdi]

Just add the wallet address and LinkedIn profile URL. I think I found the latter but navigating the blockchain is a bit much for me yet.

[namecointrader]

A bounty is forming @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.1180

[mitymouse]

Please keep replies to this post informative.  This thread is not the place for you to promote your pool or mock people who lost doge to this scampool  I will update the post with any further information you guys dig up.

the following is from my earlier post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404112.msg4374082#msg4374082

im sure someone is chomping at the bit (pardon the pun) to debunk me.

ill try my best to explain what i think i know. i didnt have an account, and the rules restrict me to posting bla bla bla....

so i was researching ideas for a doge coin based game. i ended up at the dogecoin forums. go fig.

they have a crowd-sourcing section, dogestarter. there was one post that caught my eye. a "team" of devs with one game already published and available on the app market. i thought these might be some good guys to try and team up with, so, performing my due diligence, i checked the other posts by this id, as there were only 6. all posts were similar in nature, suggesting skills, upcoming releases, and a donation address. there were like 3 or 4 listed between the different posts. i decided to do some blocksniffing. there were a few donations coming in, mostly small, but they all were sent out almost immediately. hmmm.

i followed one of the larger moves for 30k. that went to a wallet that was empty. 2 transactions. a few hundred shaved off with the bulk transferred to another wallet. hmmm.

this went on and on and on. tx, split, tx, split. i must have went 15-20 pages following along. this was a major deal. im aware of the concept of a tumbler, but this was different. i eventually wound up at a wallet that had over 2 billion doge with few sends. finally, the dragons horde!

after a few minutes in a chat-room, i hear about the scryptpool fiasco and i was given this link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397762.0

the final wallet address is the same one i came to after following the chain, starting with the donation address for these game "devs". ill let you perform your own due diligence and track things for yourself.

start here.
http://doges.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=6092

follow those wallet addresses, im guessing they all end up the same place.

if you search for the business name listed by the user id it returns the company website and a linkedin profile for the company ceo. so it appears to me the user id from dogecoin forum is also in control of the 2 billion doge wallet that "stolen" payouts from scryptpool were transferred to.

so, for the ones slower than me.
dogecoin forum
forum id
wallet address match
2 billion doge balance
company website
linkedin profile

ps. i saved all relevant pages, at dogeforum and linkedin in the event they go 404.

whenever there's trouble, we're there on the double.
clueclub

I can confirm this. The trails from both scryptpools and Apsyon Inc follow a similar trend in how they are tumbling and they have both funneled money into this massive wallet address http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB. This is another address with a significant amount in it at the moment: http://dogechain.info/address/DFygnuv3bKWkL8KUSc87RxjG7xmgZFNZaH

I believe this is the LinkedIn page he is referring to: http://www.linkedin.com/company/apsyon-inc-

The two events seem to be linked or at the very least they are using the same tumbler.

Edit: I have been thinking about this, and with the way these transactions are happening, is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?

[peterlex]

I can confirm this. The trails from both scryptpools and Apsyon Inc follow a similar trend in how they are tumbling and they have both funneled money into this massive wallet address http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB. This is another address with a significant amount in it at the moment: http://dogechain.info/address/DFygnuv3bKWkL8KUSc87RxjG7xmgZFNZaH

I believe this is the LinkedIn page he is referring to: http://www.linkedin.com/company/apsyon-inc-

The two events seem to be linked or at the very least they are using the same tumbler.

Edit: I have been thinking about this, and with the way these transactions are happening, is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?

Apsyon Inc. Offering Escrow Service: https://doges.org/index.php?topic=5538.0

Wow much coincidence!

[clueclub]

Please keep replies to this post informative.  This thread is not the place for you to promote your pool or mock people who lost doge to this scampool  I will update the post with any further information you guys dig up.

the following is from my earlier post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404112.msg4374082#msg4374082

im sure someone is chomping at the bit (pardon the pun) to debunk me.

ill try my best to explain what i think i know. i didnt have an account, and the rules restrict me to posting bla bla bla....

so i was researching ideas for a doge coin based game. i ended up at the dogecoin forums. go fig.

they have a crowd-sourcing section, dogestarter. there was one post that caught my eye. a "team" of devs with one game already published and available on the app market. i thought these might be some good guys to try and team up with, so, performing my due diligence, i checked the other posts by this id, as there were only 6. all posts were similar in nature, suggesting skills, upcoming releases, and a donation address. there were like 3 or 4 listed between the different posts. i decided to do some blocksniffing. there were a few donations coming in, mostly small, but they all were sent out almost immediately. hmmm.

i followed one of the larger moves for 30k. that went to a wallet that was empty. 2 transactions. a few hundred shaved off with the bulk transferred to another wallet. hmmm.

this went on and on and on. tx, split, tx, split. i must have went 15-20 pages following along. this was a major deal. im aware of the concept of a tumbler, but this was different. i eventually wound up at a wallet that had over 2 billion doge with few sends. finally, the dragons horde!

after a few minutes in a chat-room, i hear about the scryptpool fiasco and i was given this link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397762.0

the final wallet address is the same one i came to after following the chain, starting with the donation address for these game "devs". ill let you perform your own due diligence and track things for yourself.

start here.
http://doges.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=6092

follow those wallet addresses, im guessing they all end up the same place.

if you search for the business name listed by the user id it returns the company website and a linkedin profile for the company ceo. so it appears to me the user id from dogecoin forum is also in control of the 2 billion doge wallet that "stolen" payouts from scryptpool were transferred to.

so, for the ones slower than me.
dogecoin forum
forum id
wallet address match
2 billion doge balance
company website
linkedin profile

ps. i saved all relevant pages, at dogeforum and linkedin in the event they go 404.

whenever there's trouble, we're there on the double.
clueclub

I can confirm this. The trails from both scryptpools and Apsyon Inc follow a similar trend in how they are tumbling and they have both funneled money into this massive wallet address http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB. This is another address with a significant amount in it at the moment: http://dogechain.info/address/DFygnuv3bKWkL8KUSc87RxjG7xmgZFNZaH

I believe this is the LinkedIn page he is referring to: http://www.linkedin.com/company/apsyon-inc-

The two events seem to be linked or at the very least they are using the same tumbler.

Edit: I have been thinking about this, and with the way these transactions are happening, is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?

thx mitymouse! need more people to confirm the trace though.

that was one linkedin page, but not the one for the ceo. google just the business name. start at the dogecoin fourm link. that user id posted 2 donation wallet addresses that lead back to the horde wallet. the user id also posted a company name, that when googled, gives a linkedin account for the business AND an individual. dont google the escrow service, just the business. 2 separate pages. im not posting any links in the event im wrongfully torching someone.

Edit: I have been thinking about this, and with the way these transactions are happening, is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?

i dont think so. thats not how exchange wallets work. although a member of the staff could confirm if any wallets in the alleged chain belonged to them.

 if you have a stake in this, do the legwork, start checking the block transactions from the links i posted. if you come to the determination that they do in fact lead to your stolen coins, start investigating the business, and the ceo listed by his own linkedin profile. you can sit on your ass and watch someone on teevee solve crimes, or, you can get busy with a spreadsheet and be your own detective. the blockchain is nothing but links, showing transactions and wallet balances. just keep following the money. you will know you are there when you see a ginormous balance and the account #'s match those posted by the OP.

is this thread the "official" complaint thread? how many people were actually victimized? kind of hard to get everyone together with the website down. is the OP still around? is HE leading the charge? if you can save and edit the name of 50-60 webpages to a flash drive, you have the entire case in your hand. thats about 30 for each side of transfers, including the pages that would link said stolen money to a real world person living in new york city. whoops : P

 the connection has been confirmed by at least one person.

[namecointrader]

Just an update of the bounty @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.1200.

It is currently @ 540k Doge

[koppit]

Holy. Sh!t.

Look at this page (http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-dogecoin-addresses.html)

4   D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB   2013-12-17 09:49:22 UTC   2014-01-07 21:42:24 UTC   84   2013-12-17 09:57:53 UTC   2013-12-17 09:57:53 UTC   1   583,427,996 DOGE ($124,760 USD)

[CatCoinForums]

Just out of question, how does he actually take your dogecoins? Surely there is no option in the admin control panel for this function or what lol? kinda confused how he would take everyones doges.

[muchdogecpumine]

I contacted both Cryptsy and Coinedup with the addresses from my post.  Coinedup says that those addresses do not belong to them.  Cryptsy created a helpdesk ticket but hasn't responded to it.  It has been four days at this point.

[koppit]

Can we contact the coin developers? see what they think or if they can do anything?

[scarface]

theres no way in hell this pool mined 3b coins in the 2 weeks it was in limbo

as soon as the payout problems started the hashrate started to drop

im not saying he scamed millions of coins but 3b seems to much

[Zisef]

I got ripped off from many over night pool operations as well. This is why I mine with Binary Clock from dedicatedpool and never have looked back. I can reach the guy in chat, and get support right in the chat. Once you find a pool you trust it is better to stay there, and work off the coins that is offered. I wish you guys luck.

[st0ned]

I got ripped off from many over night pool operations as well. This is why I mine with Binary Clock from dedicatedpool and never have looked back. I can reach the guy in chat, and get support right in the chat. Once you find a pool you trust it is better to stay there, and work off the coins that is offered. I wish you guys luck.

+1 dedicatedpool has been rock solid for me aside from a few brief hiccups (nothing like the other pools though).

[koppit]

Interesting... following the trail, Apsyon.com Whois data:

Before you do anything with this information, make sure you're SURE it's the guy. Anyone in NY? Need another verify before confirmation pls.

marc@apsyon.com /dioxcyde@gmail.com / ApsyonEscrow@gmail.com

Registrant Name: Marc Seal
Registrant Organization: Apsyon
Registrant Street: 246 North Rutherford ave
Registrant City: Massapequa
Registrant State/Province: New York
Registrant Postal Code: 11758
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 5164481505
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: Dioxcyde@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Marc Seal
Admin Organization: Apsyon
Admin Street: 246 North Rutherford ave
Admin City: Massapequa
Admin State/Province: New York
Admin Postal Code: 11758
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 5164481505
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: Dioxcyde@gmail.com

[mitymouse]

Interesting... following the trail, Apsyon.com Whois data:

Before you do anything with this information, make sure you're SURE it's the guy. Anyone in NY? Need another verify before confirmation pls.

marc@apsyon.com /dioxcyde@gmail.com / ApsyonEscrow@gmail.com

Registrant Name: Marc Seal
Registrant Organization: Apsyon
Registrant Street: 246 North Rutherford ave
Registrant City: Massapequa
Registrant State/Province: New York
Registrant Postal Code: 11758
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 5164481505
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: Dioxcyde@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Marc Seal
Admin Organization: Apsyon
Admin Street: 246 North Rutherford ave
Admin City: Massapequa
Admin State/Province: New York
Admin Postal Code: 11758
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 5164481505
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: Dioxcyde@gmail.com

Can I just ask WTF is up with the tree in his front yard? https://i.imgur.com/JTNOkQK.jpg


Also, him: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/marc-seal/30/104/962

[koppit]

LOL

So, how do we confirm it's the guy? Following the money leads to the same address, who can confirm the address owner, if it's an exchange or not?

He's also 'Kurcide' on reddit and doges.org

[muchdogecpumine]

Interesting... following the trail, Apsyon.com Whois data:

Before you do anything with this information, make sure you're SURE it's the guy. Anyone in NY? Need another verify before confirmation pls.

I could not find any connection in the blockchain between the donation address that let you to this guy and Phonetic or Scryptpools.  If you did, please post your results.

A witch hunt that hurts an innocent bystander is not going to help us find Phonetic.  Please be responsible and do your own legwork to ensure that you don't dox an innocent bystander!