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Author Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer  (Read 1232687 times)
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March 24, 2014, 09:35:04 PM
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I do not know what to do in the flexible market, says hold but how to do it
a lot of people selling ... fear .... but I think this is not for cowards

will hold a little more but if you continue down I will sell

I do not know what to do ... I lose money

never sell on lower than you bought (if you bought) if you are mining, just look on LTC and BTC history, started on very low prices, went up and down many times, but in long run there was totally upgoing trend, i am miner and not trader, and I prefer sure than risk, but in vertcoins I believe that in summer I will be glad that I didnt sold Smiley

or sell half for LTC, or BTC if you trust one of them more, and half hold in VTC and you will see what will happen Smiley
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March 24, 2014, 09:36:18 PM
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To the community:

The following commentary is not so much for you, as you already know and understand the points it makes. It is something for the general population outside crypto, so please feel free to pass it along via blogs or other social media. And good news:
Reuters decided to post my article. Cool! See comment section immediately below this big piece on Bitcoin: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/20/bitcoin-future-idUSL3N0MH0AD20140320

Real glad to keep getting the word out on Crypto and the precious few truly outstanding coins, including Vertcoin, which is mentioned here alongside Bitcoin, Litecoin and Blackcoin. The four pillars of Cryptocurrency, imho. Anyway, please consider tweeting the shit out of the link, above.

A few thoughts on Digital Currency:
Perhaps some of you heard about Warren Buffett's recent dismissal of Bitcoin as 'a mirage'. Funny, my first reaction to that was that he's just too old to understand what it is and what it may imply for the future of money. Now I'm pondering whether he actually had to reject it, vehemently, because of the extent to which he feels threatened by it. Most people, himself included, are very invested in the illusion of the dollar and/or their own respective government-backed currencies. The more people there are who understand what Bitcoin is, the more that illusion frays at the edges and begins to come undone.
I've been reading up a little on Gresham's law. Fascinating stuff. Sir Thomas Gresham was a sixteenth-century financial agent of the English Crown. The 'law' had been formulated a generation earlier by Copernicus, in a treatise called Monetae Cudendae Ratio. This is the crux of it: "bad (debased) coinage drives good (un-debased) coinage out of circulation." Gresham used this to explain to the Queen (Elizabeth 1) the reason for the miserable state into which the English Shilling had fallen. To quote a historian whose name I didn't happen to note down:
"The statement was part of Gresham's explanation for the "unexampled state of badness" England's coinage had been left in following the "Great Debasements" of Henry VIII and Edward VI, which reduced the metallic value of English silver coins to a small fraction of what it had been at the time of Henry VII. It was owing to these debasements, Gresham observed to the Queen, that "all your fine gold was conveyed out of this your realm."
The connection I'm proposing here is that Bitcoin is, and is increasingly perceived to be, 'good' currency, while the dollar and other fiat currencies are increasingly perceived as 'debased'. This kind of thinking is still not widespread enough to have the disruptive impact it might have someday soon. But it has gained a lot of ground lately, enough to cause (in combination with a few other factors) Bitcoin valuation to rise from $25 to as high as $1,200 within a year.
Some may object that the parallel I'm drawing doesn't hold because, where (for instance) gold has 'intrinsic value', Bitcoin does not have it (or is presumed by Buffett and others not to). But what is 'intrinsic value'? I mean, yes, gold may have uses in old-school dentistry and in the making of pretty objects, but that hardly justifies the notion of value independant of the subjective, emotional consensus, "gold is precious". Still less does it confer any substance on the dollar, whose relationship to gold is but a distant memory. One might actually make a better argument that Bitcoin and its digital offspring, the 'altcoins', e.g., Litecoin, Blackcoin, Vertcoin etc., have more 'real' or 'intrinisic' value. Digital does what it does extremely well. The utility of it is tremendous. The intelligence and other resources that allow it to exist and function are tremendous (computing-power, among other things). And it cannot be minted arbitrarily in endless reams of paper at the whim of a central bank.
Others may object that while Gresham was speaking about currency, i.e., different grades of shilling within the realm, Bitcoin and the 'alts' are not currency. But this is just semantic quibbling. The mindless refrain of newspaper columnists lately has been that currency must be mandated by government, a qualification Bitcoin and the others lack. Meaning, it's not currency unless government says it is. I would say that it becomes currency in virtue of being used as such. Which it already is. By real people, in real commerce.
Anyway, we'll see how it all plays out. We may see a time when people try as hard as possible to palm off their dollars to anyone who still tolerates them in exchange for goods and services, while seeking to receive digital currency whenever possible -- to collect or spend in international trade where it's the only currency-form that is taken seriously at all. I believe we may be heading that way.

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March 24, 2014, 09:38:52 PM
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So sad, I just got my 6 280x's working on one rig and wanted to sit and look at vertco.in dashboard for a bit feeling good about myself. Now I can't see anything Sad

Hopefully they get it fixed soon.

don't u guys use backup pools? I must have at least 6 pool accounts Cheesy congrats on the rig btw !
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March 24, 2014, 10:49:06 PM
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I've recently been using sgminer 4.1.0 on scrypt, as it allows my pile of mongrel cards (2x5800's, 2X7900's) to coexist peacefully under one miner instance. Without reading 400 pages, can someone point me to a sgminer modified for vertcoin?  The way the multipools are getting ddos'ed and the dwindling profitability of scrypt coins in general due to asic farms coming on line, I think it's time I moved my small rig.
 
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March 24, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
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Zero Fiat tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6jDziwuV0U&feature=youtu.be
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March 24, 2014, 11:19:04 PM
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I've recently been using sgminer 4.1.0 on scrypt, as it allows my pile of mongrel cards (2x5800's, 2X7900's) to coexist peacefully under one miner instance. Without reading 400 pages, can someone point me to a sgminer modified for vertcoin?  The way the multipools are getting ddos'ed and the dwindling profitability of scrypt coins in general due to asic farms coming on line, I think it's time I moved my small rig.
You need a pretty recent build, until 4.2 comes out. I don't use Windows, but if I did and I didn't want to compile then I would use the binaries from cryptojournal.blogspot.sg.
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March 24, 2014, 11:38:26 PM
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Private messaged you earlier ymer.

"You see, you and I, we believe in life. But you want to fight for it, to kill for it, even to die--for life. I only want to live it."  (Ayn Rand)
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March 25, 2014, 01:08:48 AM
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What is power consumption for n-factor coins? I mean is there a difference comparing to usual scrypt coins?
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March 25, 2014, 01:33:24 AM
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What is power consumption for n-factor coins? I mean is there a difference comparing to usual scrypt coins?

Unchanged for "low" NFactor coins - say N=4 to N=12 or so.  When you start getting to N=13 and N=14, you can mine effectively with low power GPU's, and configure your GPU to use fewer shaders for the amount of memory you have.

YACMiner: https://github.com/Thirtybird/YACMiner  N-Factor information : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
BTC: 183eSsaxG9y6m2ZhrDhHueoKnZWmbm6jfC  YAC: Y4FKiwKKYGQzcqn3M3u6mJoded6ri1UWHa
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March 25, 2014, 02:08:12 AM
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TC Pool – Coin Golem - https://vtc.coingolem.com/index.php
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Point your pooler @ stratum+tcp://vtc.coingolem.com:3333

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MYR: MQvEmxAhAhdN5rfmJsChJ3mN8CUEs9iCn6
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March 25, 2014, 02:58:55 AM
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Hey everyone just to say we have a really cool new project underway - http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/lightweight-wallet-for-vertcoin/

It looks a little underfunded right now, but it takes a while to update the site, and I just sent a nice chunk of VTC towards it myself - would appreciate if a few more of you could join me! A desktop SPV wallet that doesn't require a full blockchain download would be a really nice thing to have.
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March 25, 2014, 04:24:32 AM
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Hey everyone just to say we have a really cool new project underway - http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/lightweight-wallet-for-vertcoin/

It looks a little underfunded right now, but it takes a while to update the site, and I just sent a nice chunk of VTC towards it myself - would appreciate if a few more of you could join me! A desktop SPV wallet that doesn't require a full blockchain download would be a really nice thing to have.

Would be even nicer if we could implement guiminer on it so customers can p2pool mine straight from the wallet without any complicated settings setup and pool registrations Wink
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March 25, 2014, 11:04:33 AM
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any chance to support this campaign? looks like cool idea to me

http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/want-to-promote-vertcoin-like-any-other-cryptocurrency-did-i-am-a-windsurfer-i-want-to-be-sponsored-by-vertcoin/#8230
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March 25, 2014, 11:39:26 AM
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hy my name iwan, i'm a student..
I so interest with cryptocurrency, but i don't have enough money to buy a good computer PC for mining (i just have one old laptop)..
know i just collecting coin from FAUCET and BOUNTY.. i have a dream "one day i can buy good computer PC for mining"..
please help me.. sorry if this is disturbing, and thank you very much if you help me. Smiley

BITECOIN           : 1HbFkZXhdPoPZ2jvSvALh5Sm49neqhGy3t
LITECOIN         : LaJ4S5sGZb5Cr3AyPpZQrUXbDPaMp2gjjt
DOGE              : DMjJh2ctLVSjMwUuupTz16ycJ4X988jSst
COIN2      : S4Bs2SxmwRAjSqZRrAdfhA3GDGanPv6jwe
COINO      : UP7a6pES5SED9SX42MJPUiLQFFbHrm4pN5
SOLARCOIN     : 8NA2BGkx9UJ6RA35ocZHjnc5b6kjxqVczq
ROTOCOIN (RT2)   : RnKXaLRyQhZHt3a4ZS3eNiYL7YKKW9fMpY
LOTTOCOIN           : LmRpLrMqzLh91k8zs4Vuxi6kJnEL8FK31M
NUTCOIN      : NLfiriJAPouFidBMqmWmKPbCPUVEN9oyDy


i don´t know if it is a good thing owning a shit mining rig.
it brings so much trouble with
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March 25, 2014, 01:16:12 PM
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hy my name iwan, i'm a student..
I so interest with cryptocurrency, but i don't have enough money to buy a good computer PC for mining (i just have one old laptop)..
know i just collecting coin from FAUCET and BOUNTY.. i have a dream "one day i can buy good computer PC for mining"..
please help me.. sorry if this is disturbing, and thank you very much if you help me. Smiley

BITECOIN           : 1HbFkZXhdPoPZ2jvSvALh5Sm49neqhGy3t
LITECOIN         : LaJ4S5sGZb5Cr3AyPpZQrUXbDPaMp2gjjt
DOGE              : DMjJh2ctLVSjMwUuupTz16ycJ4X988jSst
COIN2      : S4Bs2SxmwRAjSqZRrAdfhA3GDGanPv6jwe
COINO      : UP7a6pES5SED9SX42MJPUiLQFFbHrm4pN5
SOLARCOIN     : 8NA2BGkx9UJ6RA35ocZHjnc5b6kjxqVczq
ROTOCOIN (RT2)   : RnKXaLRyQhZHt3a4ZS3eNiYL7YKKW9fMpY
LOTTOCOIN           : LmRpLrMqzLh91k8zs4Vuxi6kJnEL8FK31M
NUTCOIN      : NLfiriJAPouFidBMqmWmKPbCPUVEN9oyDy


i don´t know if it is a good thing owning a shit mining rig.
it brings so much trouble with

It sure does when you first start setting it up! and even then when problems occur!
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March 25, 2014, 04:38:03 PM
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Hi all,
        I am kinda new to Vert, but I wanted to get some feedback as to what the future will behold with N-Factor vs Asic Scrypts? I don't fully understand how it works and if will be able to fend off these things in the future? Any info would be great!
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March 25, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
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Hey everyone just to say we have a really cool new project underway - http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/lightweight-wallet-for-vertcoin/

It looks a little underfunded right now, but it takes a while to update the site, and I just sent a nice chunk of VTC towards it myself - would appreciate if a few more of you could join me! A desktop SPV wallet that doesn't require a full blockchain download would be a really nice thing to have.

Great project!
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March 25, 2014, 05:04:31 PM
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Hey everyone just to say we have a really cool new project underway - http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/lightweight-wallet-for-vertcoin/

It looks a little underfunded right now, but it takes a while to update the site, and I just sent a nice chunk of VTC towards it myself - would appreciate if a few more of you could join me! A desktop SPV wallet that doesn't require a full blockchain download would be a really nice thing to have.

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March 25, 2014, 05:53:03 PM
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Hey everyone just to say we have a really cool new project underway - http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/lightweight-wallet-for-vertcoin/

It looks a little underfunded right now, but it takes a while to update the site, and I just sent a nice chunk of VTC towards it myself - would appreciate if a few more of you could join me! A desktop SPV wallet that doesn't require a full blockchain download would be a really nice thing to have.

Contributed.

Me too Smiley)
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March 25, 2014, 06:14:25 PM
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Hi all,
        I am kinda new to Vert, but I wanted to get some feedback as to what the future will behold with N-Factor vs Asic Scrypts? I don't fully understand how it works and if will be able to fend off these things in the future? Any info would be great!
memory requirements increase over time, and memory is expensive, so makings asics is more expensive too
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