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[Lovok]

p2pool node for low hashrate miners: http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171

As current p2pool is too large for low hashrate miners, I've finally decided to test second one. Test node is running at http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 , so if you want to test it, just use "vertminer --scrypt-vert -Q 0 -o lovok.no-ip.com:9171 -u YourVTCPayoutAddress -p x".

I've also posted modified p2pool version here: https://github.com/Lovok/p2pool-n/ if you want to create own node to join network, just run p2pool with "run_p2pool.py --net vertcoin2". I'm looking for public nodes to allow more bootstrap points, so if you decide to create one, PM me its address please.

What is the difference between regular p2pool and 2nd p2pool?

Basically, they are the same (and not). Traditionally, p2pool is considered as one worldwide network, one for given coin. But problem is, it's not scaling well if it's hashrate increases. And this is the problem with VTC as p2pool is very successfull with Vertcoin. So, now running '1st' p2pool can be considered as one big pool based on p2pool technology. '2nd' p2pool can be treated as another pool, using same technology, but with it's own nodes and hashrate. This is important as global p2pool hashrate is impacting share difficulty for miners, higher global hashrate means higher share difficulty. With higher global hashrate, you have higher chance of getting block, but also lower chance of getting share for individual miner. And this is problem with current p2pool network, you have chance to have block every 20 minutes, but chance to get share in 3 hours when mining with 1Mhs. That leads to high variance, some miners sometimes get nothing for all day mining, just because being unlucky.

To be short, p2pool = technology to create decentralised pools, p2pool network = network of p2pool nodes cooperating together to create pool, there should not be only one network, some nodes can create one network, some another. Miner can then use node of his own choose, if he prefer higher global hashrate of pool or lower share difficulty, which depends on network parameters to which particular node connects.

[xgtele]

p2pool node for low hashrate miners: http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171

As current p2pool is too large for low hashrate miners, I've finally decided to test second one. Test node is running at http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 , so if you want to test it, just use "vertminer --scrypt-vert -Q 0 -o lovok.no-ip.com:9171 -u YourVTCPayoutAddress -p x".

I've also posted modified p2pool version here: https://github.com/Lovok/p2pool-n/ if you want to create own node to join network, just run p2pool with "run_p2pool.py --net vertcoin2". I'm looking for public nodes to allow more bootstrap points, so if you decide to create one, PM me its address please.

What is the difference between regular p2pool and 2nd p2pool?

Basically, they are the same (and not). Traditionally, p2pool is considered as one worldwide network, one for given coin. But problem is, it's not scaling well if it's hashrate increases. And this is the problem with VTC as p2pool is very successfull with Vertcoin. So, now running '1st' p2pool can be considered as one big pool based on p2pool technology. '2nd' p2pool can be treated as another pool, using same technology, but with it's own nodes and hashrate. This is important as global p2pool hashrate is impacting share difficulty for miners, higher global hashrate means higher share difficulty. With higher global hashrate, you have higher chance of getting block, but also lower chance of getting share for individual miner. And this is problem with current p2pool network, you have chance to have block every 20 minutes, but chance to get share in 3 hours when mining with 1Mhs. That leads to high variance, some miners sometimes get nothing for all day mining, just because being unlucky.

To be short, p2pool = technology to create decentralised pools, p2pool network = network of p2pool nodes cooperating together to create pool, there should not be only one network, some nodes can create one network, some another. Miner can then use node of his own choose, if he prefer higher global hashrate of pool or lower share difficulty, which depends on network parameters to which particular node connects.

Yes, i understand how p2pool works. The question is about p2pool software - what is different? i mean functionality, used ports, etc.

[AppleVector]

p2pool node for low hashrate miners: http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171

As current p2pool is too large for low hashrate miners, I've finally decided to test second one. Test node is running at http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 , so if you want to test it, just use "vertminer --scrypt-vert -Q 0 -o lovok.no-ip.com:9171 -u YourVTCPayoutAddress -p x".

I've also posted modified p2pool version here: https://github.com/Lovok/p2pool-n/ if you want to create own node to join network, just run p2pool with "run_p2pool.py --net vertcoin2". I'm looking for public nodes to allow more bootstrap points, so if you decide to create one, PM me its address please.

Added two nodes for the second P2Pool network.  Hope it grows!  Need to distribute hash rate and multiple p2pool networks are the way to go.

http://us-east.p2pools.net:9171/static/ US East (DC)
http://208.43.199.115:9171/static/  <-- Central (Dallas)

[vertoe]

Updated P2Pool backend.
http://q30.qhor.net:9171/

[vertoe]

p2pool node for low hashrate miners: http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171

As current p2pool is too large for low hashrate miners, I've finally decided to test second one. Test node is running at http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 , so if you want to test it, just use "vertminer --scrypt-vert -Q 0 -o lovok.no-ip.com:9171 -u YourVTCPayoutAddress -p x".

I've also posted modified p2pool version here: https://github.com/Lovok/p2pool-n/ if you want to create own node to join network, just run p2pool with "run_p2pool.py --net vertcoin2". I'm looking for public nodes to allow more bootstrap points, so if you decide to create one, PM me its address please.

Added two nodes for the second P2Pool network.  Hope it grows!  Need to distribute hash rate and multiple p2pool networks are the way to go.

http://us-east.p2pools.net:9171/static/ US East (DC)
http://208.43.199.115:9171/static/  <-- Central (Dallas)

Please use a different port to show miners which P2Pool network they are on.

[Lovok]

I don't think that using another port is good idea, by my opinion, it can just confuse miners. Network used is defined by usage of given node so node owners should inform users mainly on webstats page in which network given node is.

[lily3241]

need some help..
where do i create workers to mine for vertcoin?

You first find mine pool, there will tell you how to run

[lily3241]

Yeah that has SCAM written all over it  

No.
Internet currency is an inevitable outcome of the era

[Lovok]

p2pool node for low hashrate miners: http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171

As current p2pool is too large for low hashrate miners, I've finally decided to test second one. Test node is running at http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 , so if you want to test it, just use "vertminer --scrypt-vert -Q 0 -o lovok.no-ip.com:9171 -u YourVTCPayoutAddress -p x".

I've also posted modified p2pool version here: https://github.com/Lovok/p2pool-n/ if you want to create own node to join network, just run p2pool with "run_p2pool.py --net vertcoin2". I'm looking for public nodes to allow more bootstrap points, so if you decide to create one, PM me its address please.

What is the difference between regular p2pool and 2nd p2pool?

Basically, they are the same (and not). Traditionally, p2pool is considered as one worldwide network, one for given coin. But problem is, it's not scaling well if it's hashrate increases. And this is the problem with VTC as p2pool is very successfull with Vertcoin. So, now running '1st' p2pool can be considered as one big pool based on p2pool technology. '2nd' p2pool can be treated as another pool, using same technology, but with it's own nodes and hashrate. This is important as global p2pool hashrate is impacting share difficulty for miners, higher global hashrate means higher share difficulty. With higher global hashrate, you have higher chance of getting block, but also lower chance of getting share for individual miner. And this is problem with current p2pool network, you have chance to have block every 20 minutes, but chance to get share in 3 hours when mining with 1Mhs. That leads to high variance, some miners sometimes get nothing for all day mining, just because being unlucky.

To be short, p2pool = technology to create decentralised pools, p2pool network = network of p2pool nodes cooperating together to create pool, there should not be only one network, some nodes can create one network, some another. Miner can then use node of his own choose, if he prefer higher global hashrate of pool or lower share difficulty, which depends on network parameters to which particular node connects.

Yes, i understand how p2pool works. The question is about p2pool software - what is different? i mean functionality, used ports, etc.

No changes, just second network to split hashrate and attract more miners. I was thinking about pros and cons using another port for miners, finally decided not to change it.

[lily3241]

It's happening.
I'm so glad I invested heavily on vertcoin more than on any other altcoins.

You should get considerable interest.
I will also invest this coin will.
Good luck for us.

[usao]

P2Pool: http://p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171

Trying p2pool for the first time, and it looks a bit different than im use to.
Does the following look normal or do I have something mis-configured?  



PS, the accepted shares shown at the top are from another pool before I switched to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk.
I haven't seen any accepted shares from the p2pool yet.

[Mylo]

P2Pool: http://p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171

Trying p2pool for the first time, and it looks a bit different than im use to.
Does the following look normal or do I have something mis-configured?  



PS, the accepted shares shown at the top are from another pool before I switched to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk.
I haven't seen any accepted shares from the p2pool yet.

First of all your HW (hardware errors) should equal zero (0)

[xingqiaoyin]

Your temp is so uncomfortabe...
What is the card ?

[jacknb1ack]

P2Pool: http://p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171

Trying p2pool for the first time, and it looks a bit different than im use to.
Does the following look normal or do I have something mis-configured?  

https://i.imgur.com/aHGxgoP.png

PS, the accepted shares shown at the top are from another pool before I switched to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk.
I haven't seen any accepted shares from the p2pool yet.

The diff given from vardiff is too low make HW error high. use static dif by add +0.000xxxx (i am using 0.00047 for my 280x) after your VTC address. eg "-u YourVtcAddress+0.000475"

[jemmyboy]

Hi,

I was mining at bitcrush but moved to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 a couple of days ago and was happy with what i was earning compared to bitcrush. All was fine for 20+ hours but i then started to get zero payments even though i was hashing around 550-600 kh/s, my address appeared on their website but amount (vtc) is blank.
I then switched over to p2pool.be:9171 after a couple of hours but again the same issue, it would show me mining at a average of 550-600 kh/s but amount is blank. I let this run overnight in the hope that it would start earning but to no avail. So around 18 hours have been wasted trying to mine on a node.
I am currently connected to vtcpool:9171 but after a few hours still the amount is blank.

I have checked my configuration and all is in order so am at a loss as to why i cannot earn any vertcoin...anyone have any ideas what is going on?

worker = VjyW341RrDhtmWDCnEA9bBUX2UosfXDiVc

any help willl be appreciated

Edit: have started to earn some coins on p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 now so all is good

[pjr77]

Drop the Intensity and check your TC might be too high your have HW it should be Zero

[Lovok]

Hi,

I was mining at bitcrush but moved to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 a couple of days ago and was happy with what i was earning compared to bitcrush. All was fine for 20+ hours but i then started to get zero payments even though i was hashing around 550-600 kh/s, my address appeared on their website but amount (vtc) is blank.
I then switched over to p2pool.be:9171 after a couple of hours but again the same issue, it would show me mining at a average of 550-600 kh/s but amount is blank. I let this run overnight in the hope that it would start earning but to no avail. So around 18 hours have been wasted trying to mine on a node.
I am currently connected to vtcpool:9171 but after a few hours still the amount is blank.

I have checked my configuration and all is in order so am at a loss as to why i cannot earn any vertcoin...anyone have any ideas what is going on?

worker = VjyW341RrDhtmWDCnEA9bBUX2UosfXDiVc

any help willl be appreciated

Classic problem of p2pool. Because your hashrate is low, at current p2pool size, you have probability of getting share at given khs in about every six hours. And this is average, you can also get nothing half day or two shares in hour. Only when you ganerate share, you get paid by following blocks. For this reason, 2nd p2pool network is being build, to split hashrate and lower share difficulty for miners (at current size of p2pool this is not problem, as even at half/quarter p2pool size, block generation interval will still be sufficient). So, at current time, you can try mining on second p2pool network (http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 node or another posted here in last messages) or use traditional pool.

[jemmyboy]

Hi,

I was mining at bitcrush but moved to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 a couple of days ago and was happy with what i was earning compared to bitcrush. All was fine for 20+ hours but i then started to get zero payments even though i was hashing around 550-600 kh/s, my address appeared on their website but amount (vtc) is blank.
I then switched over to p2pool.be:9171 after a couple of hours but again the same issue, it would show me mining at a average of 550-600 kh/s but amount is blank. I let this run overnight in the hope that it would start earning but to no avail. So around 18 hours have been wasted trying to mine on a node.
I am currently connected to vtcpool:9171 but after a few hours still the amount is blank.

I have checked my configuration and all is in order so am at a loss as to why i cannot earn any vertcoin...anyone have any ideas what is going on?

worker = VjyW341RrDhtmWDCnEA9bBUX2UosfXDiVc

any help willl be appreciated

Classic problem of p2pool. Because your hashrate is low, at current p2pool size, you have probability of getting share at given khs in about every six hours. And this is average, you can also get nothing half day or two shares in hour. Only when you ganerate share, you get paid by following blocks. For this reason, 2nd p2pool network is being build, to split hashrate and lower share difficulty for miners (at current size of p2pool this is not problem, as even at half/quarter p2pool size, block generation interval will still be sufficient). So, at current time, you can try mining on second p2pool network (http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 node or another posted here in last messages) or use traditional pool.

I can understand if it was a for a few hours, but surely after 20 hours I should have found a share by now?

[xingqiaoyin]

Hi,

I was mining at bitcrush but moved to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 a couple of days ago and was happy with what i was earning compared to bitcrush. All was fine for 20+ hours but i then started to get zero payments even though i was hashing around 550-600 kh/s, my address appeared on their website but amount (vtc) is blank.
I then switched over to p2pool.be:9171 after a couple of hours but again the same issue, it would show me mining at a average of 550-600 kh/s but amount is blank. I let this run overnight in the hope that it would start earning but to no avail. So around 18 hours have been wasted trying to mine on a node.
I am currently connected to vtcpool:9171 but after a few hours still the amount is blank.

I have checked my configuration and all is in order so am at a loss as to why i cannot earn any vertcoin...anyone have any ideas what is going on?

worker = VjyW341RrDhtmWDCnEA9bBUX2UosfXDiVc

any help willl be appreciated

I would suggest joining any PPS pool..they'd give you steady payout closer to what calculator says. You get paid for every shares you submit regardless doesnt mattet if pool finds block or orphans.

Fees may look higher and PPLNS pool promise you they willl give you more in long term. But that's something you can only see in the future. The nature of PPLNS  is big variance you may see earning as low as 50%off calculator and 50%more than calculator. You may think pool is skimming you. Like your case with p2pool today  

PS : PPS Pool are in generall small as well so you also help avoid 51% attack

[Lovok]

Hi,

I was mining at bitcrush but moved to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 a couple of days ago and was happy with what i was earning compared to bitcrush. All was fine for 20+ hours but i then started to get zero payments even though i was hashing around 550-600 kh/s, my address appeared on their website but amount (vtc) is blank.
I then switched over to p2pool.be:9171 after a couple of hours but again the same issue, it would show me mining at a average of 550-600 kh/s but amount is blank. I let this run overnight in the hope that it would start earning but to no avail. So around 18 hours have been wasted trying to mine on a node.
I am currently connected to vtcpool:9171 but after a few hours still the amount is blank.

I have checked my configuration and all is in order so am at a loss as to why i cannot earn any vertcoin...anyone have any ideas what is going on?

worker = VjyW341RrDhtmWDCnEA9bBUX2UosfXDiVc

any help willl be appreciated

Classic problem of p2pool. Because your hashrate is low, at current p2pool size, you have probability of getting share at given khs in about every six hours. And this is average, you can also get nothing half day or two shares in hour. Only when you ganerate share, you get paid by following blocks. For this reason, 2nd p2pool network is being build, to split hashrate and lower share difficulty for miners (at current size of p2pool this is not problem, as even at half/quarter p2pool size, block generation interval will still be sufficient). So, at current time, you can try mining on second p2pool network (http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 node or another posted here in last messages) or use traditional pool.

I can understand if it was a for a few hours, but surely after 20 hours I should have found a share by now?

It's all about probability. Fact that you have not found share for given time doesn't mean you must find it in the future, probability to find share is still the same. That's the math. It only tells you that for long time, your average number of shares should be around predicted value. But due to p2pool high share difficulty, that averaging timeframe should be extremely long.

There is also another problem. With so long time between shares, it is very problematic to decide if there is not some systematic error causing for example too much stale/dead shares (in miner you see only local node shares info != p2pool network shares).