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February 16, 2015, 09:27:26 AM
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Current dump is just because the good old: "lack of news".
I'm not worried. I've cashed out plenty >100 and some in the 80's, but still holding a good chunk too.

You can't rush real life stuff. Why do you think Jared is flying over the whole world? For fun?

All I can say is: secure your profits so you have a good feeling about it and keep the rest. Even if DGB dumps to 10 again, i'm in profit with my current holdings. (not that i'm expecting it to go so low ever again).

And what exactly is DGB's claim to fame other than those $250K inexplicably given to Jared -I suppose- to get this thing off the ground?

Honest question, really. Because, to the outsider here -me- this looks EXACTLY like your run-of-the-mill copy/paste hackjob worth 0.2 BTC from a number of providers. But I am sure it is something more than that and I trust that you will convince me of such. Giving the monumental dump that has followed to the monumental pump, it is approaching levels that, if there's SOMETHING to this project, it could be quite tempting, so I got some fresh BTC I would be willin g to have a house for in any alt that is not what I described above.

Thanks in advance!

Five separate algorithms.

Also, if you do decide to only dabble in it, they've got an electrum-based wallet so you don't have to download the whole blockchain.

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately that's far from satisfying my requirements of honesty and transparency. See, the more I read about this, the more I see it is indeed a souped-up clone of BTC, nothing else. AND, importantly, there's no transparency whatsoever... that I have found. There are a buncho of first names listed as part of "the team", next to some Jared Tate. And an office address in Hong-Kong. Santa Monica, California is supposed to also have a new "global office" but whatever that one is doesn't seem to have neither a phone nor a physical address... hummmm. Also, there's this investment of $250K made by what appears to be a consulting firm in Hong-Kong that we are left to believe -at least I am- that was paid for in billions of DGB, maybe a bunch of current and future billions of DGB... one has to wonder and guess because I have read quite a bit about it and, unless I am missing the meat of the story, it is nowhere to be found what this Hong-Kong consulting firm is getting  in exchange for those $250k.

As it is, I am farther from being convinced I was before your answer -which, again, I thank you for-. I'd like to actually walk in the Santa Monica office and maybe meet Jared Tate or whoever those faceless first name guys and Tiffany are if they are there. But most of all, I'd like to know the obligations DGB has in exchange for that lofty $250K contribution. Lacking that, my BTC will be put to use somewhere else. TRhanks again for your quick answer anyway.

You really need to read a bit before coming to conclusions.

. . . starting with the OP.


Here are some excerpts

Why use DigiByte?

Security: DigiByte uses five highly advanced cryptographic algorithms.

Speed: DigiByte transaction notifications occur in 1-3 seconds, blocks are discovered every thirty seconds and transactions are fully confirmed every 3 minutes. Future planned upgrades will make these times even faster.

Fees: Most DigiByte to DigiByte transactions are free or carry a very small network-mining fee to incentivize people to mine.

Worldwide: DigiBytes are already stored, traded and transacted in over 173 countries.

Decentralization: There is no need for a middleman or third party or central server.

Re-Spend: Send DigiBytes you received to someone else in as little as three minutes.

Finite Production: New DigiBytes are added to the network every thirty seconds through a process called mining as each new block (or grouping of transactions in a spreadsheet like format) is discovered by the network.

Scarcity: 21 Billion DigiBytes will be created in 21 years.

1% Monthly New Minting Reduction: New DigiByte production decreases 1% every month.

Mining: DigiByte mining is decentralized with five independent, highly secure mining algorithms.

Adaptable, innovative & flexible: DigiByte is constantly adding new features & services to remain on the cutting edge of digital currency technology.

Committed Development: DigiByte has been under constant, progressive development for over one year now with core development team members from all over the world.

Millennial Acquisition Potential: DigiByte provides merchants, banks & other legacy institutions with a new means of acquiring & connecting with tech savvy millennial users.

A Bright Future: DigiByte has many new & exciting projects underway to be released throughout 2015 to increase DigiByte utility and new user adoption across the globe.


DigiByte vs. Bitcoin

Security: 5 DigiByte mining algorithms vs. 1 Bitcoin algorithm.
  • DigiByte mining is much more decentralized.
  • DigiByte mining algorithms can be changed out in the future to prevent centralization.

Speed:  DigiByte transactions occur much faster that Bitcoin transactions.
  • 1-3 second transaction notifications.
  • 30 second DigiByte blocks vs. 10 minute Bitcoin blocks.
  • DigiBytes are confirmed after 3 minutes vs. 1 hour with Bitcoins.

Transaction Volume: DigiByte can handle many more transactions per second.
  • Bitcoin can only handle 7 transactions per second.
  • DigiByte currently can handle 140 transactions per second.
  • Future DigiByte upgrades will push transaction limit to several thousand per second.

Total Supply: More DigiBytes, lower price, more micro transactions, better price stability.
  • 21 billion DigiBytes will be created over 21 years.
  • Only 21 million Bitcoin will be created over 140 years.
  • 1:1000 ratio. 1 Bitcoin for every 1000 DigiBytes.

Flexibility: Ability to quickly add new features.
  • DigiByte can add new features & upgrades much quicker than Bitcoin.
  • Future DigiByte upgrades will push transaction limit to several thousand per second.

Marketability & Usability: DigiByte is an easy brand to market to consumers.
  • DigiBytes are much cheaper to acquire.
  • $1 - $10 long-term price target per DigiByte.
  • Send 5 DigiBytes instead of 0.005 Bitcoin.


DigiByte Timeline

2009 - 2012: The initial design & development for an open source decentralized cryptocurrency known as Bitcoin is created by an anonymous programmer using the name Satoshi Nakamoto.

2012 – 2013: The founder of DigiByte, Jared Tate initially discovers Bitcoin and spends over 14 months analyzing, learning & experimenting with the Bitcoin network and source code.

November 2013: Jared decides to improve upon Bitcoin’s codebase with a brand new digital currency & payment network named DigiByte and begins development.

January 10th, 2014, 12 PM MST: DigiByte officially launches with much success and user participation from around the globe.
  
February 28th, 2014: DigiShield hardfork at block 67,200. DigiByte developers in response to multi-pool attacks test and develop an asymmetrical difficulty adjustment system named DigiShield. DigiShield is quickly adopted & implemented by many other digital currencies including Dogecoin. Many digital currencies still use & apply parts of DigiShield codebase.

April 8th, 2014: DigiByte attends, gives a professional presentation & has a booth at the first ever cryptocurrency convention in New York City. Watch Video Here

May 1st, 2014: DigiByte mentioned on CNBC.com. Read Here

May 9th, 2014: DigiByte mentioned live on CNBC for the first time. Watch Video Here

May - August 2014: DigiByte team meets with several potential investors & strategic partners.

September 1st, 2014: MultiAlgo hardfork at block 145,000. DigiByte plans & successfully deploys its second hardfork to allow miners to mine on five independent mining algorithms & is the first digital currency to make such a move.

November 29th, 2014: DigiByte officially announces a $250,000 private investment to build services around the DigiByte network as well as a strategic collaboration with Tofugear Ltd of Hong Kong and a new office presence in Hong Kong.  Read Announcement Here

December 10th, 2014: MultiShield hardfork at block 400,000. DigiByte deploys & executes its third hard fork to improve network performance alongside a reward reduction to extend DigiByte production to 21 years.

January 10th, 2015: DigiByte turns one year old.

January 16th, 2015: DigiByte releases DigiHash Easy Miner for beginners. Read Release Post

January 21st, 2015: DigiByte releases 1st Web Based Multi-Signature Wallet. Read Release Post

January 23rd, 2015: The first DigiByte wallet has been approved & listed on the Apple iTunes store. Read Release Post

January 26th, 2015: DigiByte mentioned on CNBC.com! Read Article

February 1st, 2015: The DigiByteTip is released to the public for beta testing. This allows users tip send & tip DigiBytes on Twitter, Twitch, Facebook and Reddit. Read Release Post



And don't forget about all those little mentioned accomplishments while "jet setting" around. (I need to compile a list.)

Here is a quick update for everyone!

The 1st ever Digital Currencies convention for Bankers went very well in New York. We made a lot of connections & introduced a lot of high level people to DigiByte & DigiPay. Every major bank from Wells Fargo, Chase & more to Visa, Mastercard and even the people who run the SWIFT international transfer system where in attendance. There were also several representatives from some of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks. It was the most insightful & beneficial conference we have attended yet. Besides Ethereum, Mastercoin & Ripple we were the only alt coin represented there. This showed several people we are serious & a legitimate contender for long term Digital Currency success.

The thing that surprised us the most was not "if" digital currencies would go main stream, but "when," "how" and "who" would be the first ones to do it. Several bankers legitimately felt block-chain technology can replace the aging ACH system. Bankers felt block chain technology could make it much easier for them to operate & follow AML/KYC laws.

I (Jared) also met up with Brian Kelly of Nautiluscoin & had a great lengthy conversation about the future of Digital Currencies after attending the Fast Money show at the NASDAQ market site. Some very positive things are underway. Finance is changing & we are proud to stand along side all of you as we are all pioneering the future of money! DigiByte to the moon! Smiley

In a nutshell, DGB is a highly focused endeavor with an extremely clear vision for creating a viable, widely adopted digital currency for a specific niche that meets (and beats I might say) all existing programming requirements and that IS BEING DELIVERED on time and as promised by a Dev Team led by a real person whose real identity is known to all.

Can you say that about any other "alt coin"?

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Last edit: February 16, 2015, 09:55:04 AM by HR
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With Digibyte coming up with its own exchange, i do hope they have employed and implemented many or all of the security features to ensure the safety of every user's DGB, as well as the integrity of Digibyte's servers that the exchange's data is on. Just recently, bter and 2 other lesser known exchanges got hacked. Before this, many exchanges like bitstamp and mtgox and some of which i don't really know got hacked as well.

Whether its 2FA or using SMS or using email to authenticate one's login or for withdrawal of coins, i really really do hope that the Digibyte Team nail this. If they do, Digibyte will instantly soar to the skies as one of the MOST SAFEST to invest in and to use. And then other exchanges can learn a thing or two from Digibyte's Safety Standards. Just like how Digishield got used by other coins.

On a side note for us users, I think its high time that users LEARN to use 2FA. i mean, we are all in this for the long haul and investors are looking to make thousands or turn 3 digits into 5-6 digits. people out there are working their ass off to bring in the BIG Moolah [money] while we are putting in so LITTLE effort to get it. is it so difficult to put in just a bit more effort into ensuring the safety of our coins on our own ends? At least the only thing we have to worry about is the servers' end, which i do hope Digibyte will address it.

One way to completely eliminate the problems on the users' end is for Digibyte to make it an obligation for users to enable 2FA or SMS. Well, if anybody wants to use a crypto-currency, we better have a mobile phone if not a smartphone. if 3rd world people can have one, you better have one too. We shouldn't give security an option to users. its a MUST despite the extra steps and the hassle. But anyway, im sure majority of us want our coins to be secured and not lost or stolen after knowing about all these hacking cases. and its not 1 or 2 or a few. how many BTC have been lost and how many people have been affected so far ever since mtgox? lots...

Although we can never be 100% Safe as i too understand that, at least make it difficult for the hackers and cover all loopholes and gaps. have backups and some kind of contingency plans if anything happens or if the worst happens.

I am sure DigiMan's armor isn't for show.  Wink
Make Security our No.1 Priority. Looking to make LOTS, you better have a LOCK!
Nobody commonly have $10 000 or $1000 or $500 cash in their wallets [physical wallet] except in storage...well, for the average low/middle-income citizens that is.  Grin

Here, here. Going down the right road. When it comes to people's money, with real money that is to say (and not crypto play money), people want the highest levels of accountability possible, and that of course means security measures and transparency.

The digital currencies that survive will all heed, address and meet those demands that are placed on real money.


And even then, nothing's guaranteed: http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

. . . except the common sense that says not to put all our eggs in the same basket.


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To be honest, the cold wallet of all the exchanges are not safe... I do not know what their reaction will be against this....
And I wonder why BTER but not CRYPTSY ?

The answer to that is so evident, so clear, so in front of our noses, that defies logic that a cesspool of rotten corruption such as BTER will have remained in busin ess at all. I mean, it was not just proven but admitted by every party, Lin, BTER's owner, was associated and co-conspirator in the BitBay scam which is depicted in all kinds of detail in the non censored threads of BTC Talk, several of them. They have been fully exposed here for around 2 months or more. Lin, with his Chinese associated and the (paid) co-operation of Bob Surplus and David Zimbeck, perpetrated and carried out the most blatant and obviously fraudulent ICO scam. What do you freaking expect, that after being exposed this guy would repent and suddenly turn honest businessman?Huh Come on people!!!

There's no (outside) theft of any kind. Once again, it's blatant and obvious.

But you go ahead and continue sending him your coins. Maybe he will someday repent, actually.

Now Cryptsy is an AMERICAN company. And in America fraud, no matter if in crypto or in what, is fully prosecuted and no perpetrator -no blatant ones at least- can get away with thios short of thing. One would think that this sort of thing would make a difference, but obviously not to some people.


I absolutely agree 100% with everything you said here.

Everything.

Spot on!


And it's more often the case than the exception. We need look no further than MintPal/Moolah for one of the more recent examples. Same time, same place. Same day, same channel. Crooks on the inside making off with people's money with impunity.

Here's a comprehensive list worth studying. Lots were hacks, by a good many were outright inside jobs.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0



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February 16, 2015, 09:42:46 AM
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Current dump is just because the good old: "lack of news".
I'm not worried. I've cashed out plenty >100 and some in the 80's, but still holding a good chunk too.

You can't rush real life stuff. Why do you think Jared is flying over the whole world? For fun?

All I can say is: secure your profits so you have a good feeling about it and keep the rest. Even if DGB dumps to 10 again, i'm in profit with my current holdings. (not that i'm expecting it to go so low ever again).

And what exactly is DGB's claim to fame other than those $250K inexplicably given to Jared -I suppose- to get this thing off the ground?

Honest question, really. Because, to the outsider here -me- this looks EXACTLY like your run-of-the-mill copy/paste hackjob worth 0.2 BTC from a number of providers. But I am sure it is something more than that and I trust that you will convince me of such. Giving the monumental dump that has followed to the monumental pump, it is approaching levels that, if there's SOMETHING to this project, it could be quite tempting, so I got some fresh BTC I would be willin g to have a house for in any alt that is not what I described above.

Thanks in advance!

Five separate algorithms.

Also, if you do decide to only dabble in it, they've got an electrum-based wallet so you don't have to download the whole blockchain.

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately that's far from satisfying my requirements of honesty and transparency. See, the more I read about this, the more I see it is indeed a souped-up clone of BTC, nothing else. AND, importantly, there's no transparency whatsoever... that I have found. There are a buncho of first names listed as part of "the team", next to some Jared Tate. And an office address in Hong-Kong. Santa Monica, California is supposed to also have a new "global office" but whatever that one is doesn't seem to have neither a phone nor a physical address... hummmm. Also, there's this investment of $250K made by what appears to be a consulting firm in Hong-Kong that we are left to believe -at least I am- that was paid for in billions of DGB, maybe a bunch of current and future billions of DGB... one has to wonder and guess because I have read quite a bit about it and, unless I am missing the meat of the story, it is nowhere to be found what this Hong-Kong consulting firm is getting  in exchange for those $250k.

As it is, I am farther from being convinced I was before your answer -which, again, I thank you for-. I'd like to actually walk in the Santa Monica office and maybe meet Jared Tate or whoever those faceless first name guys and Tiffany are if they are there. But most of all, I'd like to know the obligations DGB has in exchange for that lofty $250K contribution. Lacking that, my BTC will be put to use somewhere else. TRhanks again for your quick answer anyway.

You really need to read a bit before coming to conclusions.

. . . starting with the OP.


Here are some excerpts

Why use DigiByte?

Security: DigiByte uses five highly advanced cryptographic algorithms.

Speed: DigiByte transaction notifications occur in 1-3 seconds, blocks are discovered every thirty seconds and transactions are fully confirmed every 3 minutes. Future planned upgrades will make these times even faster.

Fees: Most DigiByte to DigiByte transactions are free or carry a very small network-mining fee to incentivize people to mine.

Worldwide: DigiBytes are already stored, traded and transacted in over 173 countries.

Decentralization: There is no need for a middleman or third party or central server.

Re-Spend: Send DigiBytes you received to someone else in as little as three minutes.

Finite Production: New DigiBytes are added to the network every thirty seconds through a process called mining as each new block (or grouping of transactions in a spreadsheet like format) is discovered by the network.

Scarcity: 21 Billion DigiBytes will be created in 21 years.

1% Monthly New Minting Reduction: New DigiByte production decreases 1% every month.

Mining: DigiByte mining is decentralized with five independent, highly secure mining algorithms.

Adaptable, innovative & flexible: DigiByte is constantly adding new features & services to remain on the cutting edge of digital currency technology.

Committed Development: DigiByte has been under constant, progressive development for over one year now with core development team members from all over the world.

Millennial Acquisition Potential: DigiByte provides merchants, banks & other legacy institutions with a new means of acquiring & connecting with tech savvy millennial users.

A Bright Future: DigiByte has many new & exciting projects underway to be released throughout 2015 to increase DigiByte utility and new user adoption across the globe.


DigiByte vs. Bitcoin

Security: 5 DigiByte mining algorithms vs. 1 Bitcoin algorithm.
  • DigiByte mining is much more decentralized.
  • DigiByte mining algorithms can be changed out in the future to prevent centralization.

Speed:  DigiByte transactions occur much faster that Bitcoin transactions.
  • 1-3 second transaction notifications.
  • 30 second DigiByte blocks vs. 10 minute Bitcoin blocks.
  • DigiBytes are confirmed after 3 minutes vs. 1 hour with Bitcoins.

Transaction Volume: DigiByte can handle many more transactions per second.
  • Bitcoin can only handle 7 transactions per second.
  • DigiByte currently can handle 140 transactions per second.
  • Future DigiByte upgrades will push transaction limit to several thousand per second.

Total Supply: More DigiBytes, lower price, more micro transactions, better price stability.
  • 21 billion DigiBytes will be created over 21 years.
  • Only 21 million Bitcoin will be created over 140 years.
  • 1:1000 ratio. 1 Bitcoin for every 1000 DigiBytes.

Flexibility: Ability to quickly add new features.
  • DigiByte can add new features & upgrades much quicker than Bitcoin.
  • Future DigiByte upgrades will push transaction limit to several thousand per second.

Marketability & Usability: DigiByte is an easy brand to market to consumers.
  • DigiBytes are much cheaper to acquire.
  • $1 - $10 long-term price target per DigiByte.
  • Send 5 DigiBytes instead of 0.005 Bitcoin.


DigiByte Timeline

2009 - 2012: The initial design & development for an open source decentralized cryptocurrency known as Bitcoin is created by an anonymous programmer using the name Satoshi Nakamoto.

2012 – 2013: The founder of DigiByte, Jared Tate initially discovers Bitcoin and spends over 14 months analyzing, learning & experimenting with the Bitcoin network and source code.

November 2013: Jared decides to improve upon Bitcoin’s codebase with a brand new digital currency & payment network named DigiByte and begins development.

January 10th, 2014, 12 PM MST: DigiByte officially launches with much success and user participation from around the globe.
  
February 28th, 2014: DigiShield hardfork at block 67,200. DigiByte developers in response to multi-pool attacks test and develop an asymmetrical difficulty adjustment system named DigiShield. DigiShield is quickly adopted & implemented by many other digital currencies including Dogecoin. Many digital currencies still use & apply parts of DigiShield codebase.

April 8th, 2014: DigiByte attends, gives a professional presentation & has a booth at the first ever cryptocurrency convention in New York City. Watch Video Here

May 1st, 2014: DigiByte mentioned on CNBC.com. Read Here

May 9th, 2014: DigiByte mentioned live on CNBC for the first time. Watch Video Here

May - August 2014: DigiByte team meets with several potential investors & strategic partners.

September 1st, 2014: MultiAlgo hardfork at block 145,000. DigiByte plans & successfully deploys its second hardfork to allow miners to mine on five independent mining algorithms & is the first digital currency to make such a move.

November 29th, 2014: DigiByte officially announces a $250,000 private investment to build services around the DigiByte network as well as a strategic collaboration with Tofugear Ltd of Hong Kong and a new office presence in Hong Kong.  Read Announcement Here

December 10th, 2014: MultiShield hardfork at block 400,000. DigiByte deploys & executes its third hard fork to improve network performance alongside a reward reduction to extend DigiByte production to 21 years.

January 10th, 2015: DigiByte turns one year old.

January 16th, 2015: DigiByte releases DigiHash Easy Miner for beginners. Read Release Post

January 21st, 2015: DigiByte releases 1st Web Based Multi-Signature Wallet. Read Release Post

January 23rd, 2015: The first DigiByte wallet has been approved & listed on the Apple iTunes store. Read Release Post

January 26th, 2015: DigiByte mentioned on CNBC.com! Read Article

February 1st, 2015: The DigiByteTip is released to the public for beta testing. This allows users tip send & tip DigiBytes on Twitter, Twitch, Facebook and Reddit. Read Release Post



And don't forget about all those little mentioned accomplishments while "jet setting" around. (I need to compile a list.)

Here is a quick update for everyone!

The 1st ever Digital Currencies convention for Bankers went very well in New York. We made a lot of connections & introduced a lot of high level people to DigiByte & DigiPay. Every major bank from Wells Fargo, Chase & more to Visa, Mastercard and even the people who run the SWIFT international transfer system where in attendance. There were also several representatives from some of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks. It was the most insightful & beneficial conference we have attended yet. Besides Ethereum, Mastercoin & Ripple we were the only alt coin represented there. This showed several people we are serious & a legitimate contender for long term Digital Currency success.

The thing that surprised us the most was not "if" digital currencies would go main stream, but "when," "how" and "who" would be the first ones to do it. Several bankers legitimately felt block-chain technology can replace the aging ACH system. Bankers felt block chain technology could make it much easier for them to operate & follow AML/KYC laws.

I (Jared) also met up with Brian Kelly of Nautiluscoin & had a great lengthy conversation about the future of Digital Currencies after attending the Fast Money show at the NASDAQ market site. Some very positive things are underway. Finance is changing & we are proud to stand along side all of you as we are all pioneering the future of money! DigiByte to the moon! Smiley

In a nutshell, DGB is a highly focused endeavor with an extremely clear vision for creating a viable, widely adopted digital currency for a specific niche that meets (and beats I might say) all existing programming requirements and that IS BEING DELIVERED on time and as promised by a Dev Team led by a real person whose real identity is known to all.

Can you say that about any other "alt coin"?


Thanks HR Couldn't Have Said It Better!!! +100
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February 16, 2015, 09:52:40 AM
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ah man....seen this one play out a bunch...to much greed (fear) on the guys that got in around 35-50 before the pump (2nd wave)...now the smart money that got in early will clear out the books with the 300% profit that remains ... because they know they can buy back cheaper ....with profits already secured from sells above 100.


im buying back ~15-30




I had a bunch on Crypsty offered in the 500 sat range. I wouldn't think of taking initial profits any lower than that (but I'm not a short term trader either). I've taken them down and sent them back to their respective wallets, where they are backed up and offline sleeping in secure hibernation.  Cheesy

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I will accept DGB in lieu of USD if you can cover the shipping in USD for obvious reasons:

http://csr.ebay.com/cse/success.jsf?itemid=181668265045&mode=revise&draftId=386400276823

How's that for value?

(feel free to delete this if it's out of line. I thought maybe our recent doubter would like to witness someone accept the currency at face value.)

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February 16, 2015, 10:11:46 AM
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I will accept DGB in lieu of USD if you can cover the shipping in USD for obvious reasons:

http://csr.ebay.com/cse/success.jsf?itemid=181668265045&mode=revise&draftId=386400276823

How's that for value?

(feel free to delete this if it's out of line. I thought maybe our recent doubter would like to witness someone accept the currency at face value.)

Whatever it is it might only show for logged in ebay-users.
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February 16, 2015, 10:14:04 AM
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Looks like the major holder dump again because of the BTC price.. this is what you get if you fall for their P&D scam.
40 should hold. Thats a nice double up from 2 weeks ago and then we can go back to new heights. alot turbulences right now. i dont see another ralley soon. things will have to calm down first. bter was a big one to digest. alot of people lost alot of money. AGAIN!
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Current dump is just because the good old: "lack of news".
I'm not worried. I've cashed out plenty >100 and some in the 80's, but still holding a good chunk too.

You can't rush real life stuff. Why do you think Jared is flying over the whole world? For fun?

All I can say is: secure your profits so you have a good feeling about it and keep the rest. Even if DGB dumps to 10 again, i'm in profit with my current holdings. (not that i'm expecting it to go so low ever again).

And what exactly is DGB's claim to fame other than those $250K inexplicably given to Jared -I suppose- to get this thing off the ground?

Honest question, really. Because, to the outsider here -me- this looks EXACTLY like your run-of-the-mill copy/paste hackjob worth 0.2 BTC from a number of providers. But I am sure it is something more than that and I trust that you will convince me of such. Giving the monumental dump that has followed to the monumental pump, it is approaching levels that, if there's SOMETHING to this project, it could be quite tempting, so I got some fresh BTC I would be willin g to have a house for in any alt that is not what I described above.

Thanks in advance!

Five separate algorithms.

Also, if you do decide to only dabble in it, they've got an electrum-based wallet so you don't have to download the whole blockchain.

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately that's far from satisfying my requirements of honesty and transparency. See, the more I read about this, the more I see it is indeed a souped-up clone of BTC, nothing else. AND, importantly, there's no transparency whatsoever... that I have found. There are a buncho of first names listed as part of "the team", next to some Jared Tate. And an office address in Hong-Kong. Santa Monica, California is supposed to also have a new "global office" but whatever that one is doesn't seem to have neither a phone nor a physical address... hummmm. Also, there's this investment of $250K made by what appears to be a consulting firm in Hong-Kong that we are left to believe -at least I am- that was paid for in billions of DGB, maybe a bunch of current and future billions of DGB... one has to wonder and guess because I have read quite a bit about it and, unless I am missing the meat of the story, it is nowhere to be found what this Hong-Kong consulting firm is getting  in exchange for those $250k.

As it is, I am farther from being convinced I was before your answer -which, again, I thank you for-. I'd like to actually walk in the Santa Monica office and maybe meet Jared Tate or whoever those faceless first name guys and Tiffany are if they are there. But most of all, I'd like to know the obligations DGB has in exchange for that lofty $250K contribution. Lacking that, my BTC will be put to use somewhere else. TRhanks again for your quick answer anyway.

You really need to read a bit before coming to conclusions.

. . . starting with the OP.


Here are some excerpts

Why use DigiByte?

Security: DigiByte uses five highly advanced cryptographic algorithms.

Speed: DigiByte transaction notifications occur in 1-3 seconds, blocks are discovered every thirty seconds and transactions are fully confirmed every 3 minutes. Future planned upgrades will make these times even faster.

Fees: Most DigiByte to DigiByte transactions are free or carry a very small network-mining fee to incentivize people to mine.

Worldwide: DigiBytes are already stored, traded and transacted in over 173 countries.

Decentralization: There is no need for a middleman or third party or central server.

Re-Spend: Send DigiBytes you received to someone else in as little as three minutes.

Finite Production: New DigiBytes are added to the network every thirty seconds through a process called mining as each new block (or grouping of transactions in a spreadsheet like format) is discovered by the network.

Scarcity: 21 Billion DigiBytes will be created in 21 years.

1% Monthly New Minting Reduction: New DigiByte production decreases 1% every month.

Mining: DigiByte mining is decentralized with five independent, highly secure mining algorithms.

Adaptable, innovative & flexible: DigiByte is constantly adding new features & services to remain on the cutting edge of digital currency technology.

Committed Development: DigiByte has been under constant, progressive development for over one year now with core development team members from all over the world.

Millennial Acquisition Potential: DigiByte provides merchants, banks & other legacy institutions with a new means of acquiring & connecting with tech savvy millennial users.

A Bright Future: DigiByte has many new & exciting projects underway to be released throughout 2015 to increase DigiByte utility and new user adoption across the globe.


DigiByte vs. Bitcoin

Security: 5 DigiByte mining algorithms vs. 1 Bitcoin algorithm.
  • DigiByte mining is much more decentralized.
  • DigiByte mining algorithms can be changed out in the future to prevent centralization.

Speed:  DigiByte transactions occur much faster that Bitcoin transactions.
  • 1-3 second transaction notifications.
  • 30 second DigiByte blocks vs. 10 minute Bitcoin blocks.
  • DigiBytes are confirmed after 3 minutes vs. 1 hour with Bitcoins.

Transaction Volume: DigiByte can handle many more transactions per second.
  • Bitcoin can only handle 7 transactions per second.
  • DigiByte currently can handle 140 transactions per second.
  • Future DigiByte upgrades will push transaction limit to several thousand per second.

Total Supply: More DigiBytes, lower price, more micro transactions, better price stability.
  • 21 billion DigiBytes will be created over 21 years.
  • Only 21 million Bitcoin will be created over 140 years.
  • 1:1000 ratio. 1 Bitcoin for every 1000 DigiBytes.

Flexibility: Ability to quickly add new features.
  • DigiByte can add new features & upgrades much quicker than Bitcoin.
  • Future DigiByte upgrades will push transaction limit to several thousand per second.

Marketability & Usability: DigiByte is an easy brand to market to consumers.
  • DigiBytes are much cheaper to acquire.
  • $1 - $10 long-term price target per DigiByte.
  • Send 5 DigiBytes instead of 0.005 Bitcoin.


DigiByte Timeline

2009 - 2012: The initial design & development for an open source decentralized cryptocurrency known as Bitcoin is created by an anonymous programmer using the name Satoshi Nakamoto.

2012 – 2013: The founder of DigiByte, Jared Tate initially discovers Bitcoin and spends over 14 months analyzing, learning & experimenting with the Bitcoin network and source code.

November 2013: Jared decides to improve upon Bitcoin’s codebase with a brand new digital currency & payment network named DigiByte and begins development.

January 10th, 2014, 12 PM MST: DigiByte officially launches with much success and user participation from around the globe.
  
February 28th, 2014: DigiShield hardfork at block 67,200. DigiByte developers in response to multi-pool attacks test and develop an asymmetrical difficulty adjustment system named DigiShield. DigiShield is quickly adopted & implemented by many other digital currencies including Dogecoin. Many digital currencies still use & apply parts of DigiShield codebase.

April 8th, 2014: DigiByte attends, gives a professional presentation & has a booth at the first ever cryptocurrency convention in New York City. Watch Video Here

May 1st, 2014: DigiByte mentioned on CNBC.com. Read Here

May 9th, 2014: DigiByte mentioned live on CNBC for the first time. Watch Video Here

May - August 2014: DigiByte team meets with several potential investors & strategic partners.

September 1st, 2014: MultiAlgo hardfork at block 145,000. DigiByte plans & successfully deploys its second hardfork to allow miners to mine on five independent mining algorithms & is the first digital currency to make such a move.

November 29th, 2014: DigiByte officially announces a $250,000 private investment to build services around the DigiByte network as well as a strategic collaboration with Tofugear Ltd of Hong Kong and a new office presence in Hong Kong.  Read Announcement Here

December 10th, 2014: MultiShield hardfork at block 400,000. DigiByte deploys & executes its third hard fork to improve network performance alongside a reward reduction to extend DigiByte production to 21 years.

January 10th, 2015: DigiByte turns one year old.

January 16th, 2015: DigiByte releases DigiHash Easy Miner for beginners. Read Release Post

January 21st, 2015: DigiByte releases 1st Web Based Multi-Signature Wallet. Read Release Post

January 23rd, 2015: The first DigiByte wallet has been approved & listed on the Apple iTunes store. Read Release Post

January 26th, 2015: DigiByte mentioned on CNBC.com! Read Article

February 1st, 2015: The DigiByteTip is released to the public for beta testing. This allows users tip send & tip DigiBytes on Twitter, Twitch, Facebook and Reddit. Read Release Post



And don't forget about all those little mentioned accomplishments while "jet setting" around. (I need to compile a list.)

Here is a quick update for everyone!

The 1st ever Digital Currencies convention for Bankers went very well in New York. We made a lot of connections & introduced a lot of high level people to DigiByte & DigiPay. Every major bank from Wells Fargo, Chase & more to Visa, Mastercard and even the people who run the SWIFT international transfer system where in attendance. There were also several representatives from some of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks. It was the most insightful & beneficial conference we have attended yet. Besides Ethereum, Mastercoin & Ripple we were the only alt coin represented there. This showed several people we are serious & a legitimate contender for long term Digital Currency success.

The thing that surprised us the most was not "if" digital currencies would go main stream, but "when," "how" and "who" would be the first ones to do it. Several bankers legitimately felt block-chain technology can replace the aging ACH system. Bankers felt block chain technology could make it much easier for them to operate & follow AML/KYC laws.

I (Jared) also met up with Brian Kelly of Nautiluscoin & had a great lengthy conversation about the future of Digital Currencies after attending the Fast Money show at the NASDAQ market site. Some very positive things are underway. Finance is changing & we are proud to stand along side all of you as we are all pioneering the future of money! DigiByte to the moon! Smiley

In a nutshell, DGB is a highly focused endeavor with an extremely clear vision for creating a viable, widely adopted digital currency for a specific niche that meets (and beats I might say) all existing programming requirements and that IS BEING DELIVERED on time and as promised by a Dev Team led by a real person whose real identity is known to all.

Can you say that about any other "alt coin"?


Thank you for your exhausting answer that somewhat manages to actually evading two of my most significant concerns: Why the so called "global office" in Santa Monica, California lacks a phone number and a physical address and who exactly -and what are their qualifications- are those faceless guys with first names and Tiffany. And who, by the way, is this kid Jared Tate, I mean what are his qualifications? I understand that for a kid his age attending a session of CNBC at the Nasdaq is a big event but, really, it is a very common occurrence available to practically anyone who lands in New York. Meeting and conversing about crypto with Brian Kelly, possible the most incompetent pseudo developer ever to have brought up a "coin" (one of the biggest surviving failures, to boot) to market, is quite frankly underwhelming.

On another level, let me tell you what is another common problem to ALL PoW projects: A bunch of miners and mining farms do actually bring to market millions of coins -in this case- every day. There's no capital to absorb those, hence the price keeps on going lower and lower. TRhis is a natural as simple offer and demand... except that it is quite a catch 22 situation: If the price is too low, no one will mine it because they get no money and their investment in electricity alone makes  it un-viable. As a consequence, the blockchain's strength suffers and the coin dies eventually; on the other hand, when the coin is pumped -as DGB recently has been, it becomes profitable for miners who put plenty of therabytes of hashing power to mine millions of coins, therefore flooding the market and producing the inevitable dump -in which DGB is currently more or less halfway-. It seems to me (actually IT IS, rather), a lose-lose situation common to every other PoW coin out there.

So, if you stack up the conceptual problems exposed in the previous paragraph, and add up the operating situation common to other similar projects (of identical behavior, for identical reasons, UNB, for instance), you will see that no one with a reasonable expectancy of any profit, either short or long term, will run, not walk, from this project.

Sometimes it actually pays to escape the hyperbole designed to impress 15 year olds with dreams of easy money with no work; it is a bit harder to convince serious investors as I'm sure you can clearly see.

But, once again, thanks for the wealth of "information" you volunteered.
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Current dump is just because the good old: "lack of news".
I'm not worried. I've cashed out plenty >100 and some in the 80's, but still holding a good chunk too.

You can't rush real life stuff. Why do you think Jared is flying over the whole world? For fun?

All I can say is: secure your profits so you have a good feeling about it and keep the rest. Even if DGB dumps to 10 again, i'm in profit with my current holdings. (not that i'm expecting it to go so low ever again).

And what exactly is DGB's claim to fame other than those $250K inexplicably given to Jared -I suppose- to get this thing off the ground?

Honest question, really. Because, to the outsider here -me- this looks EXACTLY like your run-of-the-mill copy/paste hackjob worth 0.2 BTC from a number of providers. But I am sure it is something more than that and I trust that you will convince me of such. Giving the monumental dump that has followed to the monumental pump, it is approaching levels that, if there's SOMETHING to this project, it could be quite tempting, so I got some fresh BTC I would be willin g to have a house for in any alt that is not what I described above.

Thanks in advance!

Five separate algorithms.

Also, if you do decide to only dabble in it, they've got an electrum-based wallet so you don't have to download the whole blockchain.

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately that's far from satisfying my requirements of honesty and transparency. See, the more I read about this, the more I see it is indeed a souped-up clone of BTC, nothing else. AND, importantly, there's no transparency whatsoever... that I have found. There are a buncho of first names listed as part of "the team", next to some Jared Tate. And an office address in Hong-Kong. Santa Monica, California is supposed to also have a new "global office" but whatever that one is doesn't seem to have neither a phone nor a physical address... hummmm. Also, there's this investment of $250K made by what appears to be a consulting firm in Hong-Kong that we are left to believe -at least I am- that was paid for in billions of DGB, maybe a bunch of current and future billions of DGB... one has to wonder and guess because I have read quite a bit about it and, unless I am missing the meat of the story, it is nowhere to be found what this Hong-Kong consulting firm is getting  in exchange for those $250k.

As it is, I am farther from being convinced I was before your answer -which, again, I thank you for-. I'd like to actually walk in the Santa Monica office and maybe meet Jared Tate or whoever those faceless first name guys and Tiffany are if they are there. But most of all, I'd like to know the obligations DGB has in exchange for that lofty $250K contribution. Lacking that, my BTC will be put to use somewhere else. TRhanks again for your quick answer anyway.

I think you should make your own decision, and it sounds like you did before you asked your question.  Your posts have a pretty clear anti-Chinese bias.  And, you can have personal bias.  But, this isn't a hate-group, so if you can't get over a partnership with an international company, you should probably go somewhere else.  Digital currency is inherently multinational.  DGB received the investment ... they didn't make it.  With the investment they created the companies Digipay and Digitrade and formed a strategic partnership with TofuGear.

As far as transparency goes ... okay. They don't list their last names or office location.  Probably so crazy people don't walk into their offices demanding to see financial data about business partnerships.  It's also super-creepy that you singled out specific people that you want to find out about.   In reality, DGB is better than most alt-coins with transparency.  Many of the alt-coins don't publish any information at all about their management teams, development goals, or finances.  And, many of the developers don't use their real names in these forums or put them on their websites.  And, are you serious about the phone number thing?  What's the phone number for DOGE or LTE?  Or, the phone number or physical address for Darkcoin?

Myself, and many others here have a lot of respect for the DGB management team and their regular participation in these discussions.  I hope you come to realize that DGB is a great investment and has a fantastic future.
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I will accept DGB in lieu of USD if you can cover the shipping in USD for obvious reasons:

http://csr.ebay.com/cse/success.jsf?itemid=181668265045&mode=revise&draftId=386400276823

How's that for value?

(feel free to delete this if it's out of line. I thought maybe our recent doubter would like to witness someone accept the currency at face value.)

Whatever it is it might only show for logged in ebay-users.

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 And who, by the way, is this kid Jared Tate, I mean what are his qualifications? I understand that for a kid his age attending a session of CNBC at the Nasdaq is a big event but, really.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jared-tate/90/9aa/257
BitcoinTate-Well respected KID in the bitcoin world.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83404

And who are you?Would you mind to tell everybody on the internet your name and everything you can find with that?
As Jared told before,The team is not ready to fully give the information YOU want because there are everyday hack and phising attempts to the personall account of Jared and to the Digibyte network,Website etc. etc.


And just a thing i want to say,Offcourse a discussion and questions are good and healty but does is need so much negative thoughts in it?

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Current dump is just because the good old: "lack of news".
I'm not worried. I've cashed out plenty >100 and some in the 80's, but still holding a good chunk too.

You can't rush real life stuff. Why do you think Jared is flying over the whole world? For fun?

All I can say is: secure your profits so you have a good feeling about it and keep the rest. Even if DGB dumps to 10 again, i'm in profit with my current holdings. (not that i'm expecting it to go so low ever again).

And what exactly is DGB's claim to fame other than those $250K inexplicably given to Jared -I suppose- to get this thing off the ground?

Honest question, really. Because, to the outsider here -me- this looks EXACTLY like your run-of-the-mill copy/paste hackjob worth 0.2 BTC from a number of providers. But I am sure it is something more than that and I trust that you will convince me of such. Giving the monumental dump that has followed to the monumental pump, it is approaching levels that, if there's SOMETHING to this project, it could be quite tempting, so I got some fresh BTC I would be willin g to have a house for in any alt that is not what I described above.

Thanks in advance!

Five separate algorithms.

Also, if you do decide to only dabble in it, they've got an electrum-based wallet so you don't have to download the whole blockchain.

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately that's far from satisfying my requirements of honesty and transparency. See, the more I read about this, the more I see it is indeed a souped-up clone of BTC, nothing else. AND, importantly, there's no transparency whatsoever... that I have found. There are a buncho of first names listed as part of "the team", next to some Jared Tate. And an office address in Hong-Kong. Santa Monica, California is supposed to also have a new "global office" but whatever that one is doesn't seem to have neither a phone nor a physical address... hummmm. Also, there's this investment of $250K made by what appears to be a consulting firm in Hong-Kong that we are left to believe -at least I am- that was paid for in billions of DGB, maybe a bunch of current and future billions of DGB... one has to wonder and guess because I have read quite a bit about it and, unless I am missing the meat of the story, it is nowhere to be found what this Hong-Kong consulting firm is getting  in exchange for those $250k.

As it is, I am farther from being convinced I was before your answer -which, again, I thank you for-. I'd like to actually walk in the Santa Monica office and maybe meet Jared Tate or whoever those faceless first name guys and Tiffany are if they are there. But most of all, I'd like to know the obligations DGB has in exchange for that lofty $250K contribution. Lacking that, my BTC will be put to use somewhere else. TRhanks again for your quick answer anyway.

I think you should make your own decision, and it sounds like you did before you asked your question.  Your posts have a pretty clear anti-Chinese bias.  And, you can have personal bias.  But, this isn't a hate-group, so if you can't get over a partnership with an international company, you should probably go somewhere else.  Digital currency is inherently multinational.  DGB received the investment ... they didn't make it.  With the investment they created the companies Digipay and Digitrade and formed a strategic partnership with TofuGear.

As far as transparency goes ... okay. They don't list their last names or office location.  Probably so crazy people don't walk into their offices demanding to see financial data about business partnerships.  It's also super-creepy that you singled out specific people that you want to find out about.   In reality, DGB is better than most alt-coins with transparency.  Many of the alt-coins don't publish any information at all about their management teams, development goals, or finances.  And, many of the developers don't use their real names in these forums or put them on their websites.  And, are you serious about the phone number thing?  What's the phone number for DOGE or LTE?  Or, the phone number or physical address for Darkcoin?

Myself, and many others here have a lot of respect for the DGB management team and their regular participation in these discussions.  I hope you come to realize that DGB is a great investment and has a fantastic future.

Oh I am serious as pancreatic cancer when it comes to matters of health. Or money. And you are right: There are almost as many anonymous projects as frauds and scams. Not quite, but almost (some of them are perpetrated by perfectly identified people like Dan Metcalf, or David Zimbeck or that Li guy who owns BTER). That's why I make it IMPERATIVE to know who will be responsible for my money. I am wired that way.

Oh and I don't have any negative bias about anyone based on race, sex or, much less, nationality. For me it is either crooks or honest people, just that. And honest people who aspire to MY business, must be, besides honest, transparent and accountable. Not by comparison, but in absolute terms. And, even in those cases, you have to deal with incompetency too... but that is another hill of different beans.

That is just me, though. You are perfectly free, in what respects to me, to do with your money and support whatever you may consider opportune.
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 And who, by the way, is this kid Jared Tate, I mean what are his qualifications? I understand that for a kid his age attending a session of CNBC at the Nasdaq is a big event but, really.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jared-tate/90/9aa/257
BitcoinTate-Well respected KID in the bitcoin world.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83404

And who are you?Would you mind to tell everybody on the internet your name and everything you can find with that?
As Jared told before,The team is not ready to fully give the information YOU want because there are everyday hack and phising attempts to the personall account of Jared and to the Digibyte network,Website etc. etc.


And just a thing i want to say,Offcourse a discussion and questions are good and healty but does is need so much negative thoughts in it?


Well I'll tell you, I would absolutely LOVE to find ANY positive in this thing. I haven't succeeded at it at all, hard as I have tried.

Now, regarding who am I, IF I were someone who would come here to offer a project or expect to get your or anyone's sponsorship for my project, I would consider a condition to not only reveal who I am but offer every other assurance of transparency and accountability possible, the more the better. Kind of the cleanest restaurant possible if someone would want to enter the restaurant business? You don't need to know the identity of your customers, unless required by law... as long as they PAY for whatever you sell, right? As it stands, I am not a developer and I dont need, seek, or want anyone's sponsorship... just the opposite of the dev "teams" all around in crypto.

But to put an even closer example that I am sure you would understand clearly, all these projects are quite similar to any other enterprise that, ONLY AFTER VERY MEETING VERY CONSIDERABLE BARRIERS OF IDENTITY AND TRANSPARENCY, among others, is offered in any international stock exchange. By LAW, they are required not just to meet those requirements but also to offer clear accountability for their expenses every 3 months. Publicly. And audited.

But those, you will be right to say, are SERIOUS business while these alas...
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 And who, by the way, is this kid Jared Tate, I mean what are his qualifications? I understand that for a kid his age attending a session of CNBC at the Nasdaq is a big event but, really.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jared-tate/90/9aa/257
BitcoinTate-Well respected KID in the bitcoin world.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83404

And who are you?Would you mind to tell everybody on the internet your name and everything you can find with that?
As Jared told before,The team is not ready to fully give the information YOU want because there are everyday hack and phising attempts to the personall account of Jared and to the Digibyte network,Website etc. etc.


And just a thing i want to say,Offcourse a discussion and questions are good and healty but does is need so much negative thoughts in it?


Well I'll tell you, I would absolutely LOVE to find ANY positive in this thing. I haven't succeeded at it at all, hard as I have tried.

Now, regarding who am I, IF I were someone who would come here to offer a project or expect to get your or anyone's sponsorship for my project, I would consider a condition to not only reveal who I am but offer every other assurance of transparency and accountability possible, the more the better. Kind of the cleanest restaurant possible if someone would want to enter the restaurant business? You don't need to know the identity of your customers, unless required by law... as long as they PAY for whatever you sell, right? As it stands, I am not a developer and I dont need, seek, or want anyone's sponsorship... just the opposite of the dev "teams" all around in crypto.

But to put an even closer example that I am sure you would understand clearly, all these projects are quite similar to any other enterprise that, ONLY AFTER VERY MEETING VERY CONSIDERABLE BARRIERS OF IDENTITY AND TRANSPARENCY, among others, is offered in any international stock exchange. By LAW, they are required not just to meet those requirements but also to offer clear accountability for their expenses every 3 months. Publicly. And audited.

But those, you will be right to say, are SERIOUS business while these alas...

Do you have a DGB address? I would like to tip you for the most sincere display of trollery I've seen in a good while.

Of all the coins to be picking on, man. Seriously. Let me do you a favor and send you some DGB to hold on to long term.

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 And who, by the way, is this kid Jared Tate, I mean what are his qualifications? I understand that for a kid his age attending a session of CNBC at the Nasdaq is a big event but, really.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jared-tate/90/9aa/257
BitcoinTate-Well respected KID in the bitcoin world.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83404

And who are you?Would you mind to tell everybody on the internet your name and everything you can find with that?
As Jared told before,The team is not ready to fully give the information YOU want because there are everyday hack and phising attempts to the personall account of Jared and to the Digibyte network,Website etc. etc.


And just a thing i want to say,Offcourse a discussion and questions are good and healty but does is need so much negative thoughts in it?


Well I'll tell you, I would absolutely LOVE to find ANY positive in this thing. I haven't succeeded at it at all, hard as I have tried.

Now, regarding who am I, IF I were someone who would come here to offer a project or expect to get your or anyone's sponsorship for my project, I would consider a condition to not only reveal who I am but offer every other assurance of transparency and accountability possible, the more the better. Kind of the cleanest restaurant possible if someone would want to enter the restaurant business? You don't need to know the identity of your customers, unless required by law... as long as they PAY for whatever you sell, right? As it stands, I am not a developer and I dont need, seek, or want anyone's sponsorship... just the opposite of the dev "teams" all around in crypto.

But to put an even closer example that I am sure you would understand clearly, all these projects are quite similar to any other enterprise that, ONLY AFTER VERY MEETING VERY CONSIDERABLE BARRIERS OF IDENTITY AND TRANSPARENCY, among others, is offered in any international stock exchange. By LAW, they are required not just to meet those requirements but also to offer clear accountability for their expenses every 3 months. Publicly. And audited.

But those, you will be right to say, are SERIOUS business while these alas...

Do you have a DGB address? I would like to tip you for the most sincere display of trollery I've seen in a good while.

Of all the coins to be picking on, man. Seriously. Let me do you a favor and send you some DGB to hold on to long term.

If you don't mind much, I would pass on your otherwise wonderful display of generosity... unless we are talking some serious figure, of course, which I sincerely doubt. I know I am probably saying no to future millions of BTC but, like I said, I am strange that way (to better effect, read this loudly and trying to imitate Chris Walken).
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 And who, by the way, is this kid Jared Tate, I mean what are his qualifications? I understand that for a kid his age attending a session of CNBC at the Nasdaq is a big event but, really.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jared-tate/90/9aa/257
BitcoinTate-Well respected KID in the bitcoin world.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83404

And who are you?Would you mind to tell everybody on the internet your name and everything you can find with that?
As Jared told before,The team is not ready to fully give the information YOU want because there are everyday hack and phising attempts to the personall account of Jared and to the Digibyte network,Website etc. etc.


And just a thing i want to say,Offcourse a discussion and questions are good and healty but does is need so much negative thoughts in it?


Well I'll tell you, I would absolutely LOVE to find ANY positive in this thing. I haven't succeeded at it at all, hard as I have tried.

Now, regarding who am I, IF I were someone who would come here to offer a project or expect to get your or anyone's sponsorship for my project, I would consider a condition to not only reveal who I am but offer every other assurance of transparency and accountability possible, the more the better. Kind of the cleanest restaurant possible if someone would want to enter the restaurant business? You don't need to know the identity of your customers, unless required by law... as long as they PAY for whatever you sell, right? As it stands, I am not a developer and I dont need, seek, or want anyone's sponsorship... just the opposite of the dev "teams" all around in crypto.

But to put an even closer example that I am sure you would understand clearly, all these projects are quite similar to any other enterprise that, ONLY AFTER VERY MEETING VERY CONSIDERABLE BARRIERS OF IDENTITY AND TRANSPARENCY, among others, is offered in any international stock exchange. By LAW, they are required not just to meet those requirements but also to offer clear accountability for their expenses every 3 months. Publicly. And audited.

But those, you will be right to say, are SERIOUS business while these alas...

FYI barabbas has been linked to several scams and last I checked the general consesus was that this is a shill account of "IconicExpert". Well known troll.

Be Real Bro.
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February 16, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
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Oh look its thread killer barabbas, He always shows up with markets turn Bear, every time, Like clock work. As predictable as the Sun rising.
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I wish english was my first language right now Angry Cool
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Ah this "newbies" and "juniors"... gotta love them. Really...
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