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Who cares about moving shit from A to B faster then somebody else moving his shit from A to B. Digibyte has no usecase. That is the main problem. Furthermore they only have half baked projects that hit the wall.
Because of the speed of business, the speed of transactions can make or break deals. If DGB can show that their blockchain can secure and deliver official, signed documents 40x faster than BTC in a real-world scenario, it will go a long way in proving to businesses that they are legit. I would say just mail the documents or relay them via whatever existing ESB solution with thousands of signed documents per second. Really no need to try and stuff this crap in the blockchain. You cannot compare btc to dgb because they have nothing to do with each other. Btc does not pretend to put data on the blockchain for whatever fantasy smart contract story so why compare the two? The technical limitations of hoarding the blockchain with data are a big showstopper not to mention the total lack of incentives to support such a monster. It's a fantasy I work at a big financial company and they have arranged this all quite well using normal software. Again there is no single reason for something like digusign to be on a PUBLIC blockchain with tokens that can be traded publicaly. Come on...what is the core of a company that runs around with things like digusign and tokens to buy clothes for your online virtual game character. It's like selling sailing boats and kids toys in one shop. In this blockchain madness everybody is just trying to use a blockchain for things that do not belong their design wise. One big reason for that is that money keeps flowing in if you have a coin. No money would come to you with only a 15 page presentation showing a ship with containers and some random numbers and weird extrapolations. Unless you mention blockchain a few times and invent a token And I'm not saying here that Jared and his crew are dishonest or scammers. It's just all a bit too enthusiastic and gotten out of control. Will end in non delivery and shattered dreams. The only real world usecase will be the wallet, just like most other alt coins Btw our bank has about 300 core developers(highly educated, well paid, very organized). Of they want to make something they will do it on their own. They do not need 5 people desperately looking for a usecase. They will identify the usecase and react on that accordingly. It's no rocket science You are applying the concept of smart contracts too narrowly. Just because in the case of your particular company you (personally) deem the technology to be unnecessary, it means nothing to other companies and other industries. As just one example, my own company is looking at smart contracts to reduce execution costs of multi-year contracts and ensure timely payment. What form smart contracts will eventually take, and on what platform they will thrive, who knows. But to arbitrarily say a burgeoning technology is useless just because you personally have no use for it puts you at risk of joining these people: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/10-worst-tech-predictions-of-all-timeHowever, this has to be my all-time favourite tech blunder https://techcrunch.com/2010/09/29/google-excite/
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Who cares about moving shit from A to B faster then somebody else moving his shit from A to B. Digibyte has no usecase. That is the main problem. Furthermore they only have half baked projects that hit the wall.
Because of the speed of business, the speed of transactions can make or break deals. If DGB can show that their blockchain can secure and deliver official, signed documents 40x faster than BTC in a real-world scenario, it will go a long way in proving to businesses that they are legit. I would say just mail the documents or relay them via whatever existing ESB solution with thousands of signed documents per second. Really no need to try and stuff this crap in the blockchain. You cannot compare btc to dgb because they have nothing to do with each other. Btc does not pretend to put data on the blockchain for whatever fantasy smart contract story so why compare the two? The technical limitations of hoarding the blockchain with data are a big showstopper not to mention the total lack of incentives to support such a monster. It's a fantasy I work at a big financial company and they have arranged this all quite well using normal software. Again there is no single reason for something like digusign to be on a PUBLIC blockchain with tokens that can be traded publicaly. Come on...what is the core of a company that runs around with things like digusign and tokens to buy clothes for your online virtual game character. It's like selling sailing boats and kids toys in one shop. In this blockchain madness everybody is just trying to use a blockchain for things that do not belong their design wise. One big reason for that is that money keeps flowing in if you have a coin. No money would come to you with only a 15 page presentation showing a ship with containers and some random numbers and weird extrapolations. Unless you mention blockchain a few times and invent a token And I'm not saying here that Jared and his crew are dishonest or scammers. It's just all a bit too enthusiastic and gotten out of control. Will end in non delivery and shattered dreams. The only real world usecase will be the wallet, just like most other alt coins Btw our bank has about 300 core developers(highly educated, well paid, very organized). Of they want to make something they will do it on their own. They do not need 5 people desperately looking for a usecase. They will identify the usecase and react on that accordingly. It's no rocket science You are applying the concept of smart contracts too narrowly. Just because in the case of your particular company you (personally) deem the technology to be unnecessary, it means nothing to other companies and other industries. As just one example, my own company is looking at smart contracts to reduce execution costs of multi-year contracts and ensure timely payment. What form smart contracts will eventually take, and on what platform they will thrive, who knows. But to arbitrarily say a burgeoning technology is useless just because you personally have no use for it puts you at risk of joining these people: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/10-worst-tech-predictions-of-all-timeHowever, this has to be my all-time favourite tech blunder https://techcrunch.com/2010/09/29/google-excite/All fine but you really do not need a dapp for that which uses a public chain with a public token (No pos or no pow) The logic just doesn't hold to stuff these kind of things into a public blockchain with decentralized consensus. Calling the blockchain overhyped really has not much to do with my personal usecase but the lack of any viable usecase so far that solves a real world problem. Even the coin leaders themselves start to sweat and to stutter questioned about the use case and smart contracts. It's a fantasy...like trying to stuff 470 people in a plane designed for just 12...or maybe better analogy trying to stuff 470 people in an aircraft designed for 12 while the distance they need to travel is just 500 meters. They could better have a traditional walk to their destination
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July 08, 2017, 05:46:17 PM |
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What or who decides if DGB hits the Chinese and Korean market? As i look at many coins i see very high volumes (100 - 200 million per day) of trading per coin at those markets....
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July 08, 2017, 05:56:24 PM |
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And it looks natural to me that the coin will only come out stronger if it hits those markets...
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July 08, 2017, 06:04:20 PM |
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Who cares about moving shit from A to B faster then somebody else moving his shit from A to B. Digibyte has no usecase. That is the main problem. Furthermore they only have half baked projects that hit the wall.
Because of the speed of business, the speed of transactions can make or break deals. If DGB can show that their blockchain can secure and deliver official, signed documents 40x faster than BTC in a real-world scenario, it will go a long way in proving to businesses that they are legit. I would say just mail the documents or relay them via whatever existing ESB solution with thousands of signed documents per second. Really no need to try and stuff this crap in the blockchain. You cannot compare btc to dgb because they have nothing to do with each other. Btc does not pretend to put data on the blockchain for whatever fantasy smart contract story so why compare the two? The technical limitations of hoarding the blockchain with data are a big showstopper not to mention the total lack of incentives to support such a monster. It's a fantasy I work at a big financial company and they have arranged this all quite well using normal software. Again there is no single reason for something like digusign to be on a PUBLIC blockchain with tokens that can be traded publicaly. Come on...what is the core of a company that runs around with things like digusign and tokens to buy clothes for your online virtual game character. It's like selling sailing boats and kids toys in one shop. In this blockchain madness everybody is just trying to use a blockchain for things that do not belong their design wise. One big reason for that is that money keeps flowing in if you have a coin. No money would come to you with only a 15 page presentation showing a ship with containers and some random numbers and weird extrapolations. Unless you mention blockchain a few times and invent a token And I'm not saying here that Jared and his crew are dishonest or scammers. It's just all a bit too enthusiastic and gotten out of control. Will end in non delivery and shattered dreams. The only real world usecase will be the wallet, just like most other alt coins Btw our bank has about 300 core developers(highly educated, well paid, very organized). Of they want to make something they will do it on their own. They do not need 5 people desperately looking for a usecase. They will identify the usecase and react on that accordingly. It's no rocket science 1s.t things i need to say is you need to learn what is blockchain here we go i give you link to learn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sm5LNqL5j02nd. you need to know what is smartcontract here i send link for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkeLDPZ-v8g3rd. why bitcoin cant compare with digibyte? didnt it same blockchain and same decentral currencies? 4th. you work on a big financial company doesnt mean you know everything, and blockchain? from your explanation im sure, you are zero knowledge about blockchain and dint know how smartcontract work and i know the first part who threatened is finance company, your company. it mean fi you cant follow evolution technology you will be left far behind and find new job here i give again link for you for knowledge and you can find another source with type word "smartcontracs usecase" https://blockgeeks.com/guides/smart-contracts/and https://blockchainhub.net/smart-contracts/5th. why digibyte use token? if it can use digibyte as payment? 6th. " No money would come to you with only a 15 page presentation showing a ship with containers and some random numbers and weird extrapolations. Unless you mention blockchain a few times and invent a token" You are like an old man who really lags about technology And dont know how to work get investor attention from investors, please remember i say investors not getting loans from banks. Because it's about business to business, once again not a business to get a loan 7th." Btw our bank has about 300 core developers(highly educated, well paid, very organized). Of they want to make something they will do it on their own. They do not need 5 people desperately looking for a usecase. They will identify the usecase and react on that accordingly. It's no rocket science" Why they dont build their own? They oppose the use of blockchain before, because many will lose their jobs. But this year's different story if they do not go with the change means they will lose everything 8th. i know you are really really upset jump on crypto in wrong time. the crypto market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient welcome to cryptoworld
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July 08, 2017, 06:16:57 PM Last edit: July 08, 2017, 06:27:01 PM by comp |
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Who cares about moving shit from A to B faster then somebody else moving his shit from A to B. Digibyte has no usecase. That is the main problem. Furthermore they only have half baked projects that hit the wall.
Because of the speed of business, the speed of transactions can make or break deals. If DGB can show that their blockchain can secure and deliver official, signed documents 40x faster than BTC in a real-world scenario, it will go a long way in proving to businesses that they are legit. I would say just mail the documents or relay them via whatever existing ESB solution with thousands of signed documents per second. Really no need to try and stuff this crap in the blockchain. You cannot compare btc to dgb because they have nothing to do with each other. Btc does not pretend to put data on the blockchain for whatever fantasy smart contract story so why compare the two? The technical limitations of hoarding the blockchain with data are a big showstopper not to mention the total lack of incentives to support such a monster. It's a fantasy I work at a big financial company and they have arranged this all quite well using normal software. Again there is no single reason for something like digusign to be on a PUBLIC blockchain with tokens that can be traded publicaly. Come on...what is the core of a company that runs around with things like digusign and tokens to buy clothes for your online virtual game character. It's like selling sailing boats and kids toys in one shop. In this blockchain madness everybody is just trying to use a blockchain for things that do not belong their design wise. One big reason for that is that money keeps flowing in if you have a coin. No money would come to you with only a 15 page presentation showing a ship with containers and some random numbers and weird extrapolations. Unless you mention blockchain a few times and invent a token And I'm not saying here that Jared and his crew are dishonest or scammers. It's just all a bit too enthusiastic and gotten out of control. Will end in non delivery and shattered dreams. The only real world usecase will be the wallet, just like most other alt coins Btw our bank has about 300 core developers(highly educated, well paid, very organized). Of they want to make something they will do it on their own. They do not need 5 people desperately looking for a usecase. They will identify the usecase and react on that accordingly. It's no rocket science 1s.t things i need to say is you need to learn what is blockchain here we go i give you link to learn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sm5LNqL5j02nd. you need to know what is smartcontract here i send link for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkeLDPZ-v8g3rd. why bitcoin cant compare with digibyte? didnt it same blockchain and same decentral currencies? 4th. you work on a big financial company doesnt mean you know everything, and blockchain? from your explanation im sure, you are zero knowledge about blockchain and dint know how smartcontract work and i know the first part who threatened is finance company, your company. it mean fi you cant follow evolution technology you will be left far behind and find new job here i give again link for you for knowledge and you can find another source with type word "smartcontracs usecase" https://blockgeeks.com/guides/smart-contracts/and https://blockchainhub.net/smart-contracts/5th. why digibyte use token? if it can use digibyte as payment? 6th. " No money would come to you with only a 15 page presentation showing a ship with containers and some random numbers and weird extrapolations. Unless you mention blockchain a few times and invent a token" You are like an old man who really lags about technology And dont know how to work get investor attention from investors, please remember i say investors not getting loans from banks. Because it's about business to business, once again not a business to get a loan 7th." Btw our bank has about 300 core developers(highly educated, well paid, very organized). Of they want to make something they will do it on their own. They do not need 5 people desperately looking for a usecase. They will identify the usecase and react on that accordingly. It's no rocket science" Why they dont build their own? They oppose the use of blockchain before, because many will lose their jobs. But this year's different story if they do not go with the change means they will lose everything 8th. i know you are really really upset jump on crypto in wrong time. the crypto market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient welcome to cryptoworld Madness begins in the form of delusional abstractions in the form of stupid drawings. The function of a public blockchain in relation to the stupid car example is just so point in case for the madness. It's really crazy. It does not solve anything which is already done in a more efficiënt way. Not using all kinds of cryptocrap. There is NO demand for such thing on a, and I repeat myself, public blockchain with tradeable and speculative tokens backing it. No point at all. These drawings are for sales people. The drawings are logical but fall apart taking blockchain economiics/incentives and technical details into account. It's utterly inefficient as well. See here the Tezos smart contract guru sweating after a few simple question https://youtu.be/gsY5wXj4Xm8
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July 08, 2017, 07:18:19 PM |
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Orders successfully placed for both Digibyte and BitBay on the Blocknet's decentralized exchange!
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July 09, 2017, 12:32:29 AM |
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Always makes me laugh when i see people spend their time sh**ing on a coin in forums that they think will go nowhere. If you didnt agree that pink unicorns existed would you spend your time reading threads on forums and replying to the contrary to people who believe pink unicorns do exist? No....that would be stupid and a waste of time now wouldn't it? Unless you want to keep buying cheap pink unicorns!
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July 09, 2017, 12:37:12 AM |
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Have there been any updates by DGB team recently? Do they post in this forum?
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July 09, 2017, 03:09:25 AM |
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Orders successfully placed for both Digibyte and BitBay on the Blocknet's decentralized exchange!
What is a Decentralized Exchange A decentralized exchange is an exchange market that does not rely on a third party service to hold the customer's funds. Instead, trades occur directly between users (peer to peer) through an automated process. This system can be achieved by creating proxy tokens (crypto assets that represent a certain fiat or crypto currency) or assets (that can represent shares in a company for example) or through a decentralized multi-signature escrow system, among other solutions that are currently being developed. This system contrasts with the current centralized model in which users deposit their funds and the exchange issues an IOU that can be freely traded on the platform. When a user asks to withdraw his funds, these are converted back into the cryptocurrency they represent and sent to their owner. BenefitsThe most obvious benefit to using a decentralized exchange over a centralized one is their "trustless" nature. You are not required to trust the security or honesty of the exchange since the funds are held by you in your personal wallet and not by a third party. Another advantage to the decentralized model is the privacy it provides. Users are not required to disclose their personal details to anyone, except if the exchange method involves bank transfers, in which case your identity is revealed only to the person that is selling or buying from you. Furthermore, the hosting of decentralized exchanges is distributed through nodes meaning that there is no risk of server downtime.
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July 09, 2017, 05:54:06 AM |
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Has anyone hit a block solo mining the wallet with myriad-groestl? I found 6 in a week pool mining so I switched to solo and haven't found a single one in a week.. could be just bad luck but might also be something else.
I'm using an older wallet (v4.0.3) as I couldn't get mining working on the newest version. I'm using sgminer.
Also has anyone figured out how to setup a dgb myriad-groestl pool? I tried nomp and unomp and both fail.. Even tried the digihash source and that also isn't working. Even the digihash site doesn't support that algo.
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July 09, 2017, 06:46:42 AM Last edit: July 09, 2017, 06:58:33 AM by digitaldoxy |
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Has anyone hit a block solo mining the wallet with myriad-groestl? I found 6 in a week pool mining so I switched to solo and haven't found a single one in a week.. could be just bad luck but might also be something else.
I'm using an older wallet (v4.0.3) as I couldn't get mining working on the newest version. I'm using sgminer.
Also has anyone figured out how to setup a dgb myriad-groestl pool? I tried nomp and unomp and both fail.. Even tried the digihash source and that also isn't working. Even the digihash site doesn't support that algo.
Thanks
I also had probs finding a block using the NOMP and UNOMP pool gits with the current wallet version... I did get it all up and running and all my rigs were connecting and hashing properly, just never seemed to find a block even though I have a good amount of hashing power. In the end I switched back to an existing pool because the wasted hashes were going to cost me more than if I'd just kept mining on a fee pool. I'd also be interested to hear any solutions, or atleast some idea of the problem if anyone can shed some light. That said.... It's a little bit disappointing that even Digihash doesn't have groestl mining anymore, and IMO it just adds to the existing frustration people are feeling about potentially great DGB projects (DigbyteGaming, Digihash) having an "unfinished air" about them. I voted no in the Digibyte Foundation poll on Twitter specifically for this reason. DGB has alot of potential, and that's why I've been investing in, running fulltime nodes, and mining it for a couple years now, but the dev team really need to up their game on the issues at hand, rather than start another half-baked project... I say this only because I'd like to see DGB reach it's potential as a top player in the cryptosphere, not to bash the coin.
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July 09, 2017, 07:34:50 AM |
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Anybody care to share insight for the misleading news i.e digibyte / minecraft news? isn't it the digibyte team responsible for that ? I have hard time trusting team with misleading / lies rather than those who are legit, and without lies, such as syscoin.
also, bagholders/non-bagholders, what do you expect for digibytes to be in 2018?
lastly, where is digibyte slack? and where can I communicate with digibyte team? and read whitepaper/roadmap?
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iikun
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July 09, 2017, 12:05:11 PM |
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Anybody care to share insight for the misleading news i.e digibyte / minecraft news? isn't it the digibyte team responsible for that ? I have hard time trusting team with misleading / lies rather than those who are legit, and without lies, such as syscoin.
also, bagholders/non-bagholders, what do you expect for digibytes to be in 2018?
lastly, where is digibyte slack? and where can I communicate with digibyte team? and read whitepaper/roadmap?
Oh come on... it has been done to death that the Minecraft project was not an official thing and that the DGB devs are in no way responsible for, nor have any control over, it. The Minecraft server is a totally independent project. DigiByte uses Telegram. You can probably contact with the team more easily there because messages easily get lost in this thread. https://t.me/DigiByteCoinAs for price estimate, I really hope you would not put your faith in what anonymous people in an internet forum tell you. If you ask for advice here I am sure you'll get an equal number of responses both ways, but I personally would not listen to either.
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July 09, 2017, 02:00:04 PM |
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What or who decides if DGB hits the Chinese and Korean market? As i look at many coins i see very high volumes (100 - 200 million per day) of trading per coin at those markets....
And it looks natural to me that the coin will only come out stronger if it hits those markets...
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July 09, 2017, 04:29:46 PM |
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I am sorry, I have had little time this weekend and a couple of days before that to read the topics at bitcointalk but are there developments/news regarding DGB?
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July 09, 2017, 05:01:23 PM |
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I am sorry, I have had little time this weekend and a couple of days before that to read the topics at bitcointalk but are there developments/news regarding DGB?
None probably funds still stuck in their digishop
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July 09, 2017, 05:05:29 PM |
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Do you think the DGB will resume I saw the market very uncertain What do you say?
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July 09, 2017, 07:53:40 PM |
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Could someone explain to me WHY and HOW I have a debug.log file HUGE in size (7 Go) ?
I don't get that for any of the many coins I have in desktop wallets
Is there a way to get rid off the content or?
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July 09, 2017, 09:01:25 PM Last edit: July 09, 2017, 09:12:00 PM by Altcoinlover |
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Is there a recent bootstrap to speed up syncind of a new wallet just installed?
And also a list of ad-nodes as the wallet is not able to catch connexions
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