Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations

[knight22]

 And it is fear and lack of knowledge for the protocol that is what causes most of the FUD.  

I disagree. This is the group that Runs The World. Central banking is perhaps the sharpest tool they have used to amass the power they now have. They know this. Any diminution of the dominance of fiat currency is a very real reduction in their power. While evil, they are not stupid. Bitcoin (or more properly cryptocurrencies in general) is a very real threat to their hegemony, power, and lifestyles.

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The more you are close to central banks, the more you have to loose from bitcoin and vise versa.

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[FandangledGizmo]

I watched it and as others have said,  I thought Gavin did a really good job!  

[Hippie Tech]

And it is fear and lack of knowledge for the protocol that is what causes most of the FUD. 

I disagree. This is the group that Runs The World. Central banking is perhaps the sharpest tool they have used to amass the power they now have. They know this. Any diminution of the dominance of fiat currency is a very real reduction in their power. While evil, they are not stupid. Bitcoin (or more properly cryptocurrencies in general) is a very real threat to their hegemony, power, and lifestyles.

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The more you are close to central banks, the more you have to loose from bitcoin and vise versa.

Khadafi and others, were about to start The African Union with the gold backed Dinar and the currency.

We all know what happened to him.

[Morbo]

Khadafi and others, were about to start The African Union with the gold backed Dinar and the currency.

He also used to control the biggest underground plain water resource on Earth.

[freebitcoinwin]

I watched it and have to say, Good job Gavin

[JohnsonRobinson]

Good job Gavin, on not getting creeped out by that sullen group of people, in that totally somber plain white room.  1984 anyone?

There was certainly kind of a 'let's size this guy and Bitcoin up for possible weaknesses' vibe in the room.

Most of us would have been like..."that time already?...gotta just take a break to grab a coffee and very likely not find my way back to this room any time soon even then."

Very likely these folks are a bunch of bean-countin', globalist agenda-pushin', think tank-promotin', fiat worshipin', rent-seekin', central bank-colludin', war-mongerin', surveillance-lovin', interest-demandin', social security-erodin', middle class-destroyin'...wingnuts.

So kudos for navigating smoothly through the whole ordeal and for getting out of there in one piece.

[benjamindees]

I DO think there are lots of crazy conspiracy theories. I might even believe some of them myself, but that doesn't make me crazy (just "almost certainly wrong.").

Andresen = Andrew son = Son of Andrew
Andrew = Man
Andresen = Son of Man

(credit to Alan Watt)

[cbeast]

He did a great job of ELI5ing to our globalist masters. I think he convinced them to corner the market. They will probably start by closing down a major exchange and crashing the price. Then they will indict major Bitcoin personalities on trumped up charges. Then they will start rumors of bans on Bitcoin in major countries. They will continue shock and awe tactics until they shake out every weak hand and buy enough bitcoins to continue their family legacies into the next centuries.

[David Rabahy]

The public interview was not the important part of the conversation.  I for one would welcome Gavin's field report.

[QuestionAuthority]

The public interview was not the important part of the conversation.  I for one would welcome Gavin's field report.

You'll be waiting on that one for a while. He starts these news threads then hardly ever returns to them. The only ones that warrant a second look are the ones where he's being attacked. I doubt he really looked at those twice. Most likely someone told him, "hey dude, LukeJr is talking shit about you in your thread" so he responded.

[ozkraut]

He did a great job of ELI5ing to our globalist masters. I think he convinced them to corner the market. They will probably start by closing down a major exchange and crashing the price. Then they will indict major Bitcoin personalities on trumped up charges. Then they will start rumors of bans on Bitcoin in major countries. They will continue shock and awe tactics until they shake out every weak hand and buy enough bitcoins to continue their family legacies into the next centuries.

+1 unfortunately. Hooooooooooooodl !!!!

[David Rabahy]

He did a great job of ELI5ing to our globalist masters. I think he convinced them to corner the market. They will probably start by closing down a major exchange and crashing the price. Then they will indict major Bitcoin personalities on trumped up charges. Then they will start rumors of bans on Bitcoin in major countries. They will continue shock and awe tactics until they shake out every weak hand and buy enough bitcoins to continue their family legacies into the next centuries.

When one is rich enough then risking a tiny percentage of your total wealth on things that might make it big is much easier than if one is so poor that the risk of starving to death precludes participation in it; i.e. the rich get richer and the poor starve.  There is no need to manipulate.  The natural news cycle will work nicely.

[hilariousandco]

And it is fear and lack of knowledge for the protocol that is what causes most of the FUD. 

I disagree. This is the group that Runs The World. Central banking is perhaps the sharpest tool they have used to amass the power they now have. They know this. Any diminution of the dominance of fiat currency is a very real reduction in their power. While evil, they are not stupid. Bitcoin (or more properly cryptocurrencies in general) is a very real threat to their hegemony, power, and lifestyles.

This

The more you are close to central banks, the more you have to loose from bitcoin and vise versa.

Khadafi and others, were about to start The African Union with the gold backed Dinar and the currency.

We all know what happened to him.

Ha, true, but Gavin is hardly an authoritative Dictator here. They could put pressure on gavin, but regardless that's not gonna stop Bitcoin. I think it's a long way off before Bitcoin becomes a threat to them any way, but obviously they see the threat.

The public interview was not the important part of the conversation.  I for one would welcome Gavin's field report.

You'll be waiting on that one for a while. He starts these news threads then hardly ever returns to them. The only ones that warrant a second look are the ones where he's being attacked. I doubt he really looked at those twice. Most likely someone told him, "hey dude, LukeJr is talking shit about you in your thread" so he responded.

He's probably pretty busy / got better things to do, but it's nice that he actually stops by to keep the community updated.

[Morbo]

Andresen = Andrew son = Son of Andrew

Ibn! (c)

[greenlion]

This is was probably one of the most pointless dog-and-pony shows I've ever seen.

The CFR gets a person who is arguably the most technically qualified person in the entire world for an hour, who could've legitimately explained in tremendous depth what Bitcoin really is and how it works, but instead decided to waste everybody's time asking lay questions speculating about economics and political economy.

All the while the narcissist host insists on "pushing back", literally meaning "no matter what you have to say I have a prepared milquetoast rebuttal to what I assume you're going to say".

[Adrian-x]

This is was probably one of the most pointless dog-and-pony shows I've ever seen.

The CFR gets a person who is arguably the most technically qualified person in the entire world for an hour, who could've legitimately explained in tremendous depth what Bitcoin really is and how it works, but instead decided to waste everybody's time asking lay questions speculating about economics and political economy.

All the while the narcissist host insists on "pushing back", literally meaning "no matter what you have to say I have a prepared milquetoast rebuttal to what I assume you're going to say".

This.

The public interview was not the important part of the conversation.

[tvbcof]

This is was probably one of the most pointless dog-and-pony shows I've ever seen.

The CFR gets a person who is arguably the most technically qualified person in the entire world for an hour, who could've legitimately explained in tremendous depth what Bitcoin really is and how it works, but instead decided to waste everybody's time asking lay questions speculating about economics and political economy.

All the while the narcissist host insists on "pushing back", literally meaning "no matter what you have to say I have a prepared milquetoast rebuttal to what I assume you're going to say".

This.

Looked like the presentation was attended by support personnel and groupies primarily.  At least judging by the Q-n-A.  I'd not really expect so have seen many of the movers and shakers there both because no matter what the content of such a presentation it would be largely dis-interesting to them and obtainable in a more condensed form anyway.

The public interview was not the important part of the conversation.

Hopefully if Gavin sees fit to elaborate on this aspect of things (or issue an assurance that there is nothing to elaborate on) someone will note it in this thread.  I, for one, don't spend a great deal of effort stalking him.  He started this thread and it would be fair to hope he'd speak to this aspect of the event as it is obviously an interesting and important to at least a fraction of the Bitcoin community.

[btcusury]

This is was probably one of the most pointless dog-and-pony shows I've ever seen.

The CFR gets a person who is arguably the most technically qualified person in the entire world for an hour, who could've legitimately explained in tremendous depth what Bitcoin really is and how it works, but instead decided to waste everybody's time asking lay questions speculating about economics and political economy.

All the while the narcissist host insists on "pushing back", literally meaning "no matter what you have to say I have a prepared milquetoast rebuttal to what I assume you're going to say".

This. Was exactly my impression all throughout. Every time they asked a half-assed dumb or menial question, I thought of what Andreas Antonopoulos would have replied. Gavin was extremely soft on them, though that's not necessarily a bad thing.

What are you?  On F*^%$%g glue?

Only a$$oles say stupid things like "Only the uneducated believe in conspiracy theories."

I think the term 'conspiracy theory' is used to mock and denigrate now as any legitimate concern is mixed in with all the nonsense claims of aliens and Illuminati crap, but the NSA revelations were just a 'conspiracy theory' up until a short while ago.

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assorted.goods, if you truly believe your above-quoted statement, it means that you can be fooled into believing pretty much anything that comes from an authority figure.

[freedomno1]

I should check the thread but I was stalking Gavins posts so the question needs to be asked

How was the Council on Foreign Relations Gavin
http://www.cfr.org/economics/voices-next-generation-gavin-andresen-bitcoin/p32339

[Hippie Tech]

I should check the thread but I was stalking Gavins posts so the question needs to be asked

How was the Council on Foreign Relations Gavin
http://www.cfr.org/economics/voices-next-generation-gavin-andresen-bitcoin/p32339

The new school is looking alot like the old one.