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April 07, 2015, 12:45:42 AM
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I'm actually in this coin for all the reasons arielbit isn't.

The whole point of an alt-coin is to make improvements and you can't make improvements without making mistakes. Bitcoin takes the ultra-conservative approach - no changes allowed. Evan takes the opposite approach - make changes for the sake of progress, protect the blockchain, constantly improve and try to get things right.

I didn't buy into this coin because it had a 'perfect launch' ffs. I bought it to have a horse in this race and because it has a couple of uniquely innovative qualities that I think are going to make a huge difference to the quality of electronic money - i.e. addressing 'fungibility' directly without compromising the visibility of the public aspect of the blockchain and the introduction of decentralised functional specialisation to the network.

There are hundreds of coins out there addressing all kinds of challenges, some succeeding, some not, some with perfect launches, some not. Markets will end up deciding what worked and what didn't, what's of value and what isn't as well as the impact of the coin's heritage on its valuation. In that regard, if your idiotic enough to think having a 'perfect launch' is all that matters (or even that it matters more than anything else) then your going to come away from this market skinned alive. I doubt that's the kind of advice that arielbit wants his 'newbs' to hear though  Wink

Follow arielbit/adam's mono-signal advice and your coins are going to zero nine times out of ten. (Most of his already did).
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April 07, 2015, 01:18:30 AM
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We record all minutes and revisit them at the beginning of each foundation meeting to ensure the prior meeting accounts are acurate.
Can you please explain your role on the foundation board and how you came to obtain the position?
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April 07, 2015, 01:21:44 AM
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I'm actually in this coin for all the reasons arielbit isn't.

The whole point of an alt-coin is to make improvements and you can't make improvements without making mistakes. Bitcoin takes the ultra-conservative approach - no changes allowed. Evan takes the opposite approach - make changes for the sake of progress, protect the blockchain, constantly improve and try to get things right.

I didn't buy into this coin because it had a 'perfect launch' ffs. I bought it to have a horse in this race and because it has a couple of uniquely innovative qualities that I think are going to make a huge difference to the quality of electronic money - i.e. addressing 'fungibility' directly without compromising the visibility of the public aspect of the blockchain and the introduction of decentralised functional specialisation to the network.

There are hundreds of coins out there addressing all kinds of challenges, some succeeding, some not, some with perfect launches, some not. Markets will end up deciding what worked and what didn't, what's of value and what isn't as well as the impact of the coin's heritage on its valuation. In that regard, if your idiotic enough to think having a 'perfect launch' is all that matters (or even that it matters more than anything else) then your going to come away from this market skinned alive. I doubt that's the kind of advice that arielbit wants his 'newbs' to hear though  Wink

Follow arielbit/adam's mono-signal advice and your coins are going to zero nine times out of ten. (Most of his already did).


IMHO if you MUST respond to trolls, THIS is the way to do it. Please note #1; the lack of any direct quote, depriving the troll of the attention he craves. #2; the reasonable tone, without shrill or corse language. #3; Content which is a pleasure to read in its own right, and adds substance to the thread.

If the only response to trolling here was either this, or complete silence, this thread would become a true joy to read, and trolls would soon realize that they really were helping our cause. Shrill, rude, and in-kind responses only give the trolls what they want, distract from the readability of the thread, and cause lurkers to wonder if we are any different than they are. Yes the trolls are frustrating, but a consistent reasoned response, or total silence, will quickly reveal to lurkers and newbies who is worth listening to.

For those who don't have Tokenormal's silver tongue, but feel compelled to enter the fray, you might consider the suggestions offered on this link and cite the trolling techniques by number: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-04/how-beat-internet-trolls

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April 07, 2015, 02:40:15 AM
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I'm actually in this coin for all the reasons arielbit (and other trolls) isn't.

The whole point of an alt-coin is to make improvements and you can't make improvements without making mistakes. Bitcoin takes the ultra-conservative approach - no changes allowed. Evan takes the opposite approach - make changes for the sake of progress, protect the blockchain, constantly improve and try to get things right.

I didn't buy into this coin because it had a 'perfect launch' ffs. I bought it to have a horse in this race and because it has a couple of uniquely innovative qualities that I think are going to make a huge difference to the quality of electronic money - i.e. addressing 'fungibility' directly without compromising the visibility of the public aspect of the blockchain and the introduction of decentralised functional specialisation to the network.

There are hundreds of coins out there addressing all kinds of challenges, some succeeding, some not, some with perfect launches, some not. Markets will end up deciding what worked and what didn't, what's of value and what isn't as well as the impact of the coin's heritage on its valuation. In that regard, if your idiotic enough to think having a 'perfect launch' is all that matters (or even that it matters more than anything else) then your going to come away from this market skinned alive. I doubt that's the kind of advice that arielbit wants his 'newbs' to hear though  Wink

Follow arielbit/adam's mono-signal advice and your coins are going to zero nine times out of ten. (Most of his already did).


IMHO if you MUST respond to trolls, THIS is the way to do it. Please note #1; the lack of any direct quote, depriving the troll of the attention he craves. #2; the reasonable tone, without shrill or corse language. #3; Content which is a pleasure to read in its own right, and adds substance to the thread.

If the only response to trolling here was either this, or complete silence, this thread would become a true joy to read, and trolls would soon realize that they really were helping our cause. Shrill, rude, and in-kind responses only give the trolls what they want, distract from the readability of the thread, and cause lurkers to wonder if we are any different than they are. Yes the trolls are frustrating, but a consistent reasoned response, or total silence, will quickly reveal to lurkers and newbies who is worth listening to.

For those who don't have Tokenormal's silver tongue, but feel compelled to enter the fray, you might consider the suggestions offered on this link and cite the trolling techniques by number: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-04/how-beat-internet-trolls

Thanks strix for the great link.   It has been a great help.

The troll above uses a great #3, 9 and 12,  but lots of 9  examples of trolling.... Described In my link below.
 

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April 07, 2015, 03:26:57 AM
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bump again and again
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April 07, 2015, 04:04:20 AM
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I would assume this is a donation address or something is using the donation feature to put all their MN earnings into a single wallet.  But how would we know this is the case or if something nefarious is going on?

7 hours ago   248055   multipool.us   2845.55   4.64386   1.97364   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP   Unknown
7 hours ago   248054   coinmine.pl   2973.19   4.65296   1.97751   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP   Unknown
7 hours ago   248053   coinmine.pl   3189.62   4.64436   1.97385   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP   Unknown
7 hours ago   248052   coinmine.pl   3073.5   5.57563   2.36964   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP


http://explorer.dashninja.pl/address/XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP

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April 07, 2015, 06:09:38 AM
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I would assume this is a donation address or something is using the donation feature to put all their MN earnings into a single wallet.  But how would we know this is the case or if something nefarious is going on?

7 hours ago   248055   multipool.us   2845.55   4.64386   1.97364   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP   Unknown
7 hours ago   248054   coinmine.pl   2973.19   4.65296   1.97751   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP   Unknown
7 hours ago   248053   coinmine.pl   3189.62   4.64436   1.97385   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP   Unknown
7 hours ago   248052   coinmine.pl   3073.5   5.57563   2.36964   42.5%/42.5%   XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP


http://explorer.dashninja.pl/address/XgGxFq56KWkNvtYmrNhUUVVSfFs9GtNUZP

I think what you are asking is why are these payments going to a wallet that doesn't contain 1000 coins.  Yes, anyone can use the donation feature to send their Masternode rewards to a different wallet.  It has to be in the masternode.conf file of the wallet with the 1000 coins, as I understand it.  Unless I did it wrong.  I am not sure how the system knows where to send the coins when the wallet with 1000 coins is off line, but apparently it does (unless I did not understand the set-up correctly).  So the payment is not controlled by the online wallet, and presumably someone couldn't cause you to give away your rewards without having access to your 1000 coin wallet.

It looks like this person is using this feature as a handy way to send coins to a more convenient wallet.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, because if I'm wrong, I'm not donating, LOL.

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April 07, 2015, 07:19:12 AM
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Please beware of using online wallet services !

Ex darkcoin-e.com site was a SCAM.... they have now dash-wallet.com site...
There are users who lost their coins using they service.
Another user lost there money too https://dashtalk.org/posts/50340/

The list of SCAM services and sites
https://dashtalk.org/posts/50341/

Please use ONLY the official page wallets, not even links from quoted posts of developer.

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April 07, 2015, 07:20:40 AM
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Monero continues to get pounded, resulting in a nice iCEBREAKER free experience.

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April 07, 2015, 07:49:31 AM
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April 07, 2015, 08:03:38 AM
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Monero continues to get pounded, resulting in a nice iCEBREAKER free experience.

You can buy more Monero compared to previously.
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April 07, 2015, 08:07:57 AM
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We're still uncharted on bitcoinwisdom from Poloniex's trades after the name change,
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/poloniex/drkbtc

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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April 07, 2015, 08:11:08 AM
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These trolls are doing damage to the whole crypto world, not just dash but they don't see it. If I were looking into btc and alts as a newbie and saw the relentless amount of shit I see now I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. This internal bickering and just plain old stupidity will be the death of crypto. You heard it here first folks.

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April 07, 2015, 08:16:34 AM
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I'll find it kinda strange that the price it going down when there are like none sell orders and a lot of buy orders I can't see it 😕 can anyone plz explain that to me ? But in one hand it's great because the price of one mn is like 30% cheaper now Smiley
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April 07, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
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We're still uncharted on bitcoinwisdom from Poloniex's trades after the name change,
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/poloniex/drkbtc

I think it was yesterday i saw troll box chat there where a Poloniex mod responded to a question on the dash market that drk/dash was a dead coin and kindly suggested an alternative.....

I think we all know where Poloniex hangs their hat at this point in time.

Would love to see a response here from Poloniex.................

Alas, you said what I was thinking but have no proof, as in Poloniex have ulterior motives on certain coins and we both know which one , eh.
The obvious choice for a replacement would be the leading volume exchange which in this case is bittrex at 28% volume.

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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April 07, 2015, 08:47:40 AM
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Maybe it's time for a new moderated thread here..
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Maybe it's time for a new moderated thread here..



I don't think so, this thread is a mess for sure but I would rather have newbies read between the lines than have a censored thread.

Anyhow a large portion of the Mon***o cretins and even some of their dev team keep coming in here day after day making their whole project look like its run by and for moronic neurotics!
its a win win for us as we stay at the top the subforum and have for over a year now.

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We record all minutes and revisit them at the beginning of each foundation meeting to ensure the prior meeting accounts are acurate.
Can you please explain your role on the foundation board and how you came to obtain the position?

i've seen this question, about three times already but nobody answers??? might as well call him troll  Wink
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April 07, 2015, 09:12:37 AM
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These trolls are doing damage to the whole crypto world, not just dash but they don't see it. If I were looking into btc and alts as a newbie and saw the relentless amount of shit I see now I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. This internal bickering and just plain old stupidity will be the death of crypto. You heard it here first folks.

There is one hope coming up for mainstream adoption and that is Guldencoin, Dash will always be the leader for anonymous transactions and innovation.
As of last month Guldencoin has a great development team and updating every week with progress but I agree the start of this year has been dire for altcoins because of all the scam coins/exchanges of the past. Other coins with high marketcaps are propped up artificially and then when you look again they not even in the top 100 anymore as all
there empty promises come crumbling down.

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April 07, 2015, 09:16:47 AM
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Maybe it's time for a new moderated thread here..



I don't think so, this thread is a mess for sure but I would rather have newbies read between the lines than have a censored thread.

Anyhow a large portion of the Mon***o cretins and even some of their dev team keep coming in here day after day making their whole project look like its run by and for moronic neurotics!
its a win win for us as we stay at the top the subforum and have for over a year now.

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