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April 19, 2016, 05:08:53 AM
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GPU Miner source anyone ? i have pre-built sgminer and ccminer but would really love source

Hmm, it seems like the c11 sgminer links are no longer working.

Here's tpruvot ccminer source  https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer  It mines c11/chaincoin.

I think I downloaded the sgminer source at one time but I'll have to locate it.  I'll let you know if I find it.

I can't find the sgminer source.  I thought I had copied it but I am unable to find it at this time.  It shouldn't be that difficult to modify the available sgminer source since c11 is basically x11 just in a different hashing order.

The difference is that Skein512 is the fourth link in the x11 chain and the sixth link in the C11 chain.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422149.msg7490462#msg7490462
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May 13, 2016, 09:39:34 PM
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I'm thinking of making a masternode ta all ok with the currency ?

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anyone have any info if there are any newer pools to mine this coin? 
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Is this coin still alive or dead? I hope the dev have not abandon the project because i am buying loads of it now.

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August 14, 2016, 12:32:35 AM
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Let's buy on C-CEX before is delisted. Sad

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September 04, 2016, 04:32:01 AM
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We added your cryptocurrency.
With respect, the development team of Crypto-trade.
Crypto-Trade – Official Announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1604225.0
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Any news?
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January 25, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
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Hello.  I try to mine the wallet but the miner says:

"No payout address provided, switching to getwork"

I used the console and getaccount / getaddress to get my addy. Used that as username in the config file and the bat file.  But still im getting that error and the miner closes.

What do i need to change? the bat file? the config file?   I can mine other wallets in that same computer so im unsure what the problem is. 

Any pointers???  TIA




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March 29, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
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Chaincoin 0.9.2.3

Now with Windows installer and Mac wallet.

Windows Installer:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/download/v0.9.2.3/chaincoin-0.9.2.3-win32-setup.exe

Mac Wallet:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/download/v0.9.2.3/Chaincoin-Qt-0.9.2.3.dmg

Other versions:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/tag/v0.9.2.3
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I've updated my MasterNode to this latest version. ChainCoin is the most Affordable MasterNode at this point in time.
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March 29, 2017, 06:12:15 AM
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Chaincoin 0.9.2.3

Now with Windows installer and Mac wallet.

Windows Installer:

https[Suspicious link removed]

Mac Wallet:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/download/v0.9.2.3/Chaincoin-Qt-0.9.2.3.dmg

Other versions:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/tag/v0.9.2.3


What are your plans for this coin?
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March 29, 2017, 12:03:12 PM
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Chaincoin 0.9.2.3

Now with Windows installer and Mac wallet.

Windows Installer:

https[Suspicious link removed]

Mac Wallet:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/download/v0.9.2.3/Chaincoin-Qt-0.9.2.3.dmg

Other versions:

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/tag/v0.9.2.3


What are your plans for this coin?

Develop an alternative to other MasterNode coins.
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March 30, 2017, 05:15:56 AM
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is this coin a chinese coin?

why is it being traded traded with CNY?  and at 100X lower the price and 80X the volume?

well maybe because it's no fee, so the volume may be bloated, but 100X lower the price?  dat arbitrage.
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March 30, 2017, 10:31:41 AM
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is this coin a chinese coin?

why is it being traded traded with CNY?  and at 100X lower the price and 80X the volume?

well maybe because it's no fee, so the volume may be bloated, but 100X lower the price?  dat arbitrage.

1. No.

2. Because it’s a wide, wide, unregulated world in which two altcoins with the same name and trading symbol can exist simultaneously.

3. No.

https://www.19800.com/chc/info


HTH

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is this coin a chinese coin?

why is it being traded traded with CNY?  and at 100X lower the price and 80X the volume?

well maybe because it's no fee, so the volume may be bloated, but 100X lower the price?  dat arbitrage.

1. No.

2. Because it’s a wide, wide, unregulated world in which two altcoins with the same name and trading symbol can exist simultaneously.

3. No.

https://www.19800.com/chc/info


HTH

Cheers

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Thanks for clearing that up.  should be pretty obvious but still funny to see.

Is the dev still actively developing the coin?  what is the funding mechanism for the development of the coin?  and immediate plans for the coin or just pretty much being a low cost mn alternative right now.

thanks.  i'll try mining some of this coin.
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Is the dev still actively developing the coin?  what is the funding mechanism for the development of the coin?  and immediate plans for the coin

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422149.msg18377599#msg18377599 (4 -5 posts back)

Chaincoin 0.9.2.3
Now with Windows installer and Mac wallet.
Windows Installer:
https[Suspicious link removed]
Mac Wallet:
https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/download/v0.9.2.3/Chaincoin-Qt-0.9.2.3.dmg
Other versions:
https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/releases/tag/v0.9.2.3
What are your plans for this coin?
Develop an alternative to other MasterNode coins.

Cheers

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March 31, 2017, 09:23:08 PM
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Thanks for the replies.  Some more questions if I may.

-what are the 11 hashing algorithms chained and what are the benefits of such chaining.
-can we start the masternodes remotely like other masternode coins, and do we need a unique ip for each or just a different port.
-and research or plans to expand the masternodes to do elastic computing instead of mining. "elastic chains" sounds great.
-can the dev team introduce he/she/themselves?

thanks again for answering my questions and please direct me where to go for answers.

best.
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1. what are the 11 hashing algorithms chained and what are the benefits of such chaining.
2. can we start the masternodes remotely like other masternode coins, and do we need a unique ip for each or just a different port.
3. and research or plans to expand the masternodes to do elastic computing instead of mining. "elastic chains" sounds great.
4. can the dev team introduce he/she/themselves?

1. what are the 11 hashing algorithms chained and what are the benefits of such chaining.

C11 -> https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/blob/master/src/hash.h#L194

(for reference, also see Darkcoin-now-Dash):

X11 > https://github.com/dx11/darkcoin/blob/master/src/hashblock.h#L62

The benefits are at best arguable and in peer-reviewed cryptography papers the technique (of serially chaining the output of different hash algorithms) has been characterised as “folklore”. The characterisation is accurate, as far as I can ascertain, according to my understanding of the bitcointalk origins of the approach:

The original notion of chaining the output-to-input of different hash algos (as opposed to Satoshi's double-wrapping of SHA2 to elide a speculated-upon length extension vulnerability) was proposed by the Russian developer(s) of SIFCoin, ANN, here translated informally:

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hesh function for the signature block header changed from sha-256 (sha-256 ()), on the daisy chain of the candidates / finalists and winner sha-3. Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein. All functions of the 512-bit, but the end result is truncated to 256 bits. (Rejection of the sha-256 and scrypt - to protect against a possible startup sharp influx, and then just as sharp outflow capacity miners from other currencies, and the subsequent "paralysis." Complication chain to a length of 6 different hash functions and increased bit depth to intermediate 512 - an attempt to protect from further development of highly efficient Mh / s gpu-algorithms and theory, "simple" Gh / s devices).

I've highlighted the key sentence - the aim was anti-ASIC, they ignore any implications for the integrity of the cryptography.

The notion was picked up by the developers of QuarkCoin, who threw in another algo:

https://github.com/quark-project/quark/blob/1c0961810b65226bf74ba98e7c0a11ada8b7cd32/src/hashblock.h#L18

and then stirred 'em up a bit:

https://github.com/quark-project/quark/blob/506b294665eb61033cee7bf7404235a93db4e535/src/hashblock.h#L18

Unfortunately, it was at this point that the bogus claim for strengthened security appeared in the bitcointalk ANN for Quarkcoin:

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Super secure hashing: 9 rounds of hashing from 6 hashing functions (blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein). 3 rounds apply a random hashing function.
(my emphasis)

Although the claim of “super secure hashing” was later quietly dropped from the Quarkcoin rubric (presumably as indefensible), the fiction quickly spread amongst altcoin devs, starting with Darkcoin (which didn't even change the copy'n'pastad function name --- ”Hash9”):

https://github.com/dx11/darkcoin/blob/master/src/hashblock.h#L62

and a short time later, Chaincoin, which used the same algos but two appear in a slightly different sequence to Hash9.

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/blob/893af8e4bd73344c007b61c20e9b97b2a1cf7b02/src/hashblock.h#L54

Subsequently, according to the MOAR-HASHES!!! principle - I don't have any cryptography literature to reference, only psychological literature which, if you'll forgive me, I presume is probably outside your bailiwick - the fiction was developed up to and including X19 (IIRC).

I haven't any evidence that there has been a C11 ASIC released thus far but I understand there are one or two X11 ASIC offerings around.

From a cryptography standpoint, the approach fails on first principles - not only can the technique not be proven to strengthen the cryptography, it cannot be proven not to weaken it. For a more informed discussion, see http://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/3763, one example amongst many in the literature.

2. can we start the masternodes remotely like other masternode coins, and do we need a unique ip for each or just a different port.

Chaincoin 0.9.2 is based on Dash 0.9.2, you get whatever Dash was offering at the time, so the answer is probably “no-yes-no” (testnet is your friend).

3. and research or plans to expand the masternodes to do elastic computing instead of mining. "elastic chains" sounds great.

i) This is bitcointalk, talk is cheap and plans even cheaper.
ii) Chaincoin is open source software
iii) Ask yourself, is there a budget?

You may conclude: if there is an unadvertised research effort, it will remain opaque to casual enquirers. OTOH, if there is no public research effort, anyone is free to initiate one.

4. can the dev team introduce he/she/themselves?

i) After you
ii) I encourage you to reflect on where you first encountered the notion of “the dev [team]” w.r.t to an altcoin and whether this also might be a popular fiction, given the open source context.


Cheers

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April 01, 2017, 12:52:04 PM
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1. what are the 11 hashing algorithms chained and what are the benefits of such chaining.
2. can we start the masternodes remotely like other masternode coins, and do we need a unique ip for each or just a different port.
3. and research or plans to expand the masternodes to do elastic computing instead of mining. "elastic chains" sounds great.
4. can the dev team introduce he/she/themselves?

1. what are the 11 hashing algorithms chained and what are the benefits of such chaining.

C11 -> https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/blob/master/src/hash.h#L194

(for reference, also see Darkcoin-now-Dash):

X11 > https://github.com/dx11/darkcoin/blob/master/src/hashblock.h#L62

The benefits are at best arguable and in peer-reviewed cryptography papers the technique (of serially chaining the output of different hash algorithms) has been characterised as “folklore”. The characterisation is accurate, as far as I can ascertain, according to my understanding of the bitcointalk origins of the approach:

The original notion of chaining the output-to-input of different hash algos (as opposed to Satoshi's double-wrapping of SHA2 to elide a speculated-upon length extension vulnerability) was proposed by the Russian developer(s) of SIFCoin, ANN, here translated informally:

Quote
hesh function for the signature block header changed from sha-256 (sha-256 ()), on the daisy chain of the candidates / finalists and winner sha-3. Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein. All functions of the 512-bit, but the end result is truncated to 256 bits. (Rejection of the sha-256 and scrypt - to protect against a possible startup sharp influx, and then just as sharp outflow capacity miners from other currencies, and the subsequent "paralysis." Complication chain to a length of 6 different hash functions and increased bit depth to intermediate 512 - an attempt to protect from further development of highly efficient Mh / s gpu-algorithms and theory, "simple" Gh / s devices).

I've highlighted the key sentence - the aim was anti-ASIC, they ignore any implications for the integrity of the cryptography.

The notion was picked up by the developers of QuarkCoin, who threw in another algo:

https://github.com/quark-project/quark/blob/1c0961810b65226bf74ba98e7c0a11ada8b7cd32/src/hashblock.h#L18

and then stirred 'em up a bit:

https://github.com/quark-project/quark/blob/506b294665eb61033cee7bf7404235a93db4e535/src/hashblock.h#L18

Unfortunately, it was at this point that the bogus claim for strengthened security appeared in the bitcointalk ANN for Quarkcoin:

Quote
Super secure hashing: 9 rounds of hashing from 6 hashing functions (blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein). 3 rounds apply a random hashing function.
(my emphasis)

Although the claim of “super secure hashing” was later quietly dropped from the Quarkcoin rubric (presumably as indefensible), the fiction quickly spread amongst altcoin devs, starting with Darkcoin (which didn't even change the copy'n'pastad function name --- ”Hash9”):

https://github.com/dx11/darkcoin/blob/master/src/hashblock.h#L62

and a short time later, Chaincoin, which used the same algos but two appear in a slightly different sequence to Hash9.

https://github.com/chaincoin/chaincoin/blob/893af8e4bd73344c007b61c20e9b97b2a1cf7b02/src/hashblock.h#L54

Subsequently, according to the MOAR-HASHES!!! principle - I don't have any cryptography literature to reference, only psychological literature which, if you'll forgive me, I presume is probably outside your bailiwick - the fiction was developed up to and including X19 (IIRC).

I haven't any evidence that there has been a C11 ASIC released thus far but I understand there are one or two X11 ASIC offerings around.

From a cryptography standpoint, the approach fails on first principles - not only can the technique not be proven to strengthen the cryptography, it cannot be proven not to weaken it. For a more informed discussion, see http://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/3763, one example amongst many in the literature.

2. can we start the masternodes remotely like other masternode coins, and do we need a unique ip for each or just a different port.

Chaincoin 0.9.2 is based on Dash 0.9.2, you get whatever Dash was offering at the time, so the answer is probably “no-yes-no” (testnet is your friend).

3. and research or plans to expand the masternodes to do elastic computing instead of mining. "elastic chains" sounds great.

i) This is bitcointalk, talk is cheap and plans even cheaper.
ii) Chaincoin is open source software
iii) Ask yourself, is there a budget?

You may conclude: if there is an unadvertised research effort, it will remain opaque to casual enquirers. OTOH, if there is no public research effort, anyone is free to initiate one.

4. can the dev team introduce he/she/themselves?

i) After you
ii) I encourage you to reflect on where you first encountered the notion of “the dev [team]” w.r.t to an altcoin and whether this also might be a popular fiction, given the open source context.


Cheers

Graham


Thanks for the detailed reply Graham!

Just a clarification, Chaincoin was released before Darkcoin and was originally based on Zetacoin/Bitcoin, so the 11 chained hashing algo was first done by Chaincoin. Chaincoin only later adopted the Dash code base.
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Thanks for the detailed reply Graham!

Just a clarification, Chaincoin was released before Darkcoin and was originally based on Zetacoin/Bitcoin, so the 11 chained hashing algo was first done by Chaincoin. Chaincoin only later adopted the Dash code base.

It's just my own idiosyncratic take on things.

Tsk tsk, I knew I should have checked the actual commit dates. I stand corrected, thank you.

Cheers

Graham
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