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September 15, 2011, 02:59:21 AM
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This alt didn't even change the name of anything from bitcoin? Even the addresses are still bitcoin addresses? Redo!

That can be done in a future update release. The exploits are the important learning curves we are getting from this.
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September 15, 2011, 03:00:41 AM
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the high reject rate is because cgminer is ignoring "target" in getwork and just blindly sends every H==0 share. so at diff 100 you'll see a 99% reject rate.

So many questions. You can PM if you prefer not to take this offtopic but what is H==0?


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September 15, 2011, 03:05:31 AM
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Willing to buy some.. Wink
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September 15, 2011, 04:17:36 AM
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the high reject rate is because cgminer is ignoring "target" in getwork and just blindly sends every H==0 share. so at diff 100 you'll see a 99% reject rate.

So many questions. You can PM if you prefer not to take this offtopic but what is H==0?


cgminer sends all shares to the pool or server (whichever you are connected to) - in this case the server i.e. ggd (well that's what I called it after only spending 5 minutes to fix all the crap lazy naming stuff that the fool who set it up didn't bother to do)

I presume "H==0" is ArtForz's way of saying difficulty=1 Tongue

Cgminer will send it all hashes that are '1' difficulty - i.e. look like 00000000XYZ... where from XYZ... etc can be non-zero or zero.
It does this for the obvious reason - that's what a pool counts in order to pay you - shares, not successful block hashes.
However, since shares are also somewhat rare (on average one every 4Billion hash attempts) it's doesn't cause a problem to do that.
What you are looking for is a single "Accept" - that means you found a block - coz ggd will only Accept hashes that meet the required difficulty.
If you look at the top of the screen look at "A:" to see how many blocks you found (though they can get orphan'd of course)

Now to get the % average Accepts - you simply look at the difficulty (as ArtForz implied)
If the difficulty is 100 then on average only 1 in 100 shares will be successful block hashes - thus on average 99 shares will be rejected and 1 share will be accepted (since it will be a successful block hash at the current difficulty)
(as ArtForz said)

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September 15, 2011, 05:40:20 AM
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Am I doing this right?  I copied the bitcoin.conf to \appdata\roaming\geistgeld\ and \appdata\roaming\ (wasn't sure where to copy it so I just put a copy in both directories), ran geistd.exe and then started Phoenix like this:

phoenix.exe -u http://username:password@localhost:8777

But it never connects.  Am I using the wrong port?  I put portsend=7769 into the .conf file too.

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September 15, 2011, 05:51:57 AM
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Am I doing this right?  I copied the bitcoin.conf to \appdata\roaming\geistgeld\ and \appdata\roaming\ (wasn't sure where to copy it so I just put a copy in both directories), ran geistd.exe and then started Phoenix like this:

phoenix.exe -u http://username:password@localhost:8777

But it never connects.  Am I using the wrong port?  I put portsend=7769 into the .conf file too.

I put the conf file into my bitcoin folder in roaming and it worked just fine.
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September 15, 2011, 07:14:09 AM
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What's the port I should be using for localhost?

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September 15, 2011, 07:26:27 AM
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Damn, I still get:

MSG: Bitcoin is not connected!
Failed to connect, retrying...

This is with Bitcoind.exe running and the .conf file in the \AppData\Roaming\ folder (just downloaded the bundle too). Halpz!

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September 15, 2011, 09:03:51 AM
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This alt didn't even change the name of anything from bitcoin? Even the addresses are still bitcoin addresses? Redo!

Geist addresses are different - they start with a g (I just never thought I should list that as a feature or somthing lol )

I might bother to change all the names and textual references  in next release, to make pedantic folks happier.

Damn, I still get:

MSG: Bitcoin is not connected!
Failed to connect, retrying...

This is with Bitcoind.exe running and the .conf file in the \AppData\Roaming\ folder (just downloaded the bundle too). Halpz!

Hm.

Are you on win or on Linux ?

can you post getinfo ?

can you try another miner (so far poclbm is working like a charm and I will experiment with cgminer more today)

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September 15, 2011, 09:51:32 AM
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I've been thinking - leaving aside the craziness of 15s blocks (or lack thereof, since so far there seems to be no indication of Terrible Terrible Things Smiley ), such rapid generation should make the Hypothetical Thin Client for Geist (think along the lines of bitcoinJ) much more resistant to Finney attack ?

After all, Lex Luthor has only 15 seconds (on average, so give or take few) to steal 40 cakes from hypothetical Geist merchant, no ?

Am I being silly ?

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September 15, 2011, 12:06:01 PM
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cgminer had no trouble - there is a block in there (literally) with my name on it Tongue

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September 15, 2011, 12:10:11 PM
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I too am running cgminer today, to test stuff and see how it goes (-s 1 -Q 0 --no-longpoll ) and it's doing remarkably well on mere 250 mhashes so far (despite the notably raised diff)

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September 15, 2011, 02:14:04 PM
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I too am running cgminer today, to test stuff and see how it goes (-s 1 -Q 0 --no-longpoll ) and it's doing remarkably well on mere 250 mhashes so far (despite the notably raised diff)

Why are you using scantime 1?
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September 15, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
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I too am running cgminer today, to test stuff and see how it goes (-s 1 -Q 0 --no-longpoll ) and it's doing remarkably well on mere 250 mhashes so far (despite the notably raised diff)

Why are you using scantime 1?

 ArtForz suggested that since local connection doesn't have LP and some other stuff, s1 Q0 should work out neatly.


 seems to be working out really well.

I'm toying around with other values but it -seems- that 1 is working out better in solo mining.

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September 15, 2011, 03:21:00 PM
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I too am running cgminer today, to test stuff and see how it goes (-s 1 -Q 0 --no-longpoll ) and it's doing remarkably well on mere 250 mhashes so far (despite the notably raised diff)

Why are you using scantime 1?

 ArtForz suggested that since local connection doesn't have LP and some other stuff, s1 Q0 should work out neatly.


 seems to be working out really well.

I'm toying around with other values but it -seems- that 1 is working out better in solo mining.

I read somewhere that setting too low scantime can cause the miner to discard work that may still be valid.  Cant seem to find the post stating this. But I think it was somewhere on the cgminer thread. Default of 60 seconds is clearly too much for our fast blocks, but 2 -6 seconds is what i use and it seems to work fine. I change this a little depending on current difficulty. When the difficulty was down to 1 before the restart I had to put scantime 1 to keep up with the speed of the blocks.

Another advice would be to use only one thread/gpu. (-g 1) Default cgminer uses 2 threads. This makes submitting work a little quicker.
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September 15, 2011, 03:41:47 PM
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Hello,

Is there real interest in a blockexplorer-like site for Geist Geld?  Help me decide if I should set it up!     Grin

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September 15, 2011, 04:22:31 PM
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Is their any pool to mine?
Also any pool to exchange GG to BTC or any other currency?
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September 15, 2011, 05:02:45 PM
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Lolcust, I think you have to update the gg zips so the NTP=1 flag is used by default. Just in case people miss to change this in the config.
Getinfo says "errors" : "Warning: A majority of peers disagree with NTP time. Something is off here!" again.

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Sorry I read on the OP now that you allready done this.
Still, this error is annoying. 
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September 15, 2011, 05:51:10 PM
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Lolcust, I think you have to update the gg zips so the NTP=1 flag is used by default. Just in case people miss to change this in the config.
Getinfo says "errors" : "Warning: A majority of peers disagree with NTP time. Something is off here!" again.

Did that yesterday (and checked, and re-checked now yet again)

Everything has proper config.

Basically, there are two explanations
1) you get connected to an ntp server that is full of HATE (which would be strange, given that Geist only yanks  them once an hour, which is verily nice of it)
2) there are a bunch of miners who ignore NTP (don't visit the forum too often) and just blast away, and you happen to occasionally get connected preferentially to them.

Which sort of gives me an idea for yet another thing for the todo list...

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September 15, 2011, 06:08:03 PM
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Lolcust, I think you have to update the gg zips so the NTP=1 flag is used by default. Just in case people miss to change this in the config.
Getinfo says "errors" : "Warning: A majority of peers disagree with NTP time. Something is off here!" again.

Did that yesterday (and checked, and re-checked now yet again)

Everything has proper config.

Basically, there are two explanations
1) you get connected to an ntp server that is full of HATE (which would be strange, given that Geist only yanks  them once an hour, which is verily nice of it)
2) there are a bunch of miners who ignore NTP (don't visit the forum too often) and just blast away, and you happen to occasionally get connected preferentially to them.

Which sort of gives me an idea for yet another thing for the todo list...

Any way to check what ntp server I'm connected to?
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