[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[ActionTaker]

1.) Are you going to PM the account passwords to all initial stakeholders? I think it'd be a good idea to compile a list (google docs) of everybody who is interested and paid the fee.

2.) How are you going to prevent multiple buyins?

3.) Make the color of the NEM logo silver/grey to emphasize the silver to gold idea.

[hostmaster]

I am in i can help you

[utopianfuture]

1.) Are you going to PM the account passwords to all initial stakeholders? I think it'd be a good idea to compile a list (google docs) of everybody who is interested and paid the fee.

2.) How are you going to prevent multiple buyins?

3.) Make the color of the NEM logo silver/grey to emphasize the silver to gold idea.

1. I have worked out a plan. It should work well. List of stakeholders are coming soon.

2. I won't prevent multiple buy-in. It is impossible to prevent people making two- three accounts and register for them. But it won't matter much as our user bases would

be huge. Furthermore, it takes time to make multiple accounts. It takes time to manage multiple accounts. Later on you would need to provide me passwords on these

accounts. That's a lot of work already and if someone can go through all of that they have shown a lot of interest in NEM and probably deserve their stakes. And at this point,

more accounts means more development fund to NEM. So I don't see the need to prevent multiple buy-in. It is very different from someone putting 10.000 NXT in and buy 10%

stake of NEM. I very much doubt anyone can have more than 5-6 buy-ins. I hope this explanation clears the worry about double buy-in.

3. in progress.

[utopianfuture]

We probably need some more youthful blood    Could someone draw Doge and Kitty crowd here ? Just let them know NEM could also be fun.

[okaynow]

hi there utopianfuture

We only have to only reserve spot, and buy in if we reserve spot after page 20, correct?
And for now, we are at the "express interest" point, or buy ins have started?
And for now, is any client around? or not yet, and all of the source is at "Nxt" stage?

i mean is there a way to have a NEM wallet? or just waiting?

TIA
-Fo-


--edited, honest mistake, sorry

[utopianfuture]

hi there opticalc.

We only have to only reserve spot, and buy in if we reserve spot after page 20, correct?
And for now, we are at the "express interest" point, or buy ins have started?
And for now, is any client around? or not yet, and all of the source is at "Nxt" stage?

i mean is there a way to have a NEM wallet? or just waiting?

TIA
-Fo-

hi I am not opticalc. He is a good man and admin of nxtcrypto. He supports NEM but opticalc is not utopianfuture 

Before and at page 20 : express interest ---> reserve a spot
After page 20 --- pay a fee or show support for NEM

[okaynow]

hi there opticalc.

We only have to only reserve spot, and buy in if we reserve spot after page 20, correct?
And for now, we are at the "express interest" point, or buy ins have started?
And for now, is any client around? or not yet, and all of the source is at "Nxt" stage?

i mean is there a way to have a NEM wallet? or just waiting?

TIA
-Fo-

hi I am not opticalc. He is a good man and admin of nxtcrypto. He supports NEM but opticalc is not utopianfuture 

Before and at page 20 : express interest ---> reserve a spot
After page 20 --- pay a fee or show support for NEM

yes, you are not, sorry for this.
speedy keyboard, i was using one of opticalcs' posts to translate at the moment and got carried away, sorry.
thanks for the reply

[superresistant]

I don't know if I missed something but how are the devs gonna be paid ? In NEM or BTC ?
This is important, without devs, the coin is going nowhere.
Also it is a good idea to increase the reservation fees as more people come. It will create a hype for the coin therefore making it valuable.

In NEM, BTC or NXT as long as it works. Fee is jumping after page 30. We should not discuss here because we want to reserve spaces.
The discussion thread is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.20

I didn't know about this thread sorry.

It is a great idea this fee increase per page.

[suky321]

interested.

[superresistant]

interested.

It is not the thread.
"interested" is over, you have to pay some fees and the more you wait, the fees get higher.

Also the new comers account like him must be dismissed.
It is easy to create hundred account and get hundred times more NEM.

[Jengo]

I don't know if I missed something but how are the devs gonna be paid ? In NEM or BTC ?
This is important, without devs, the coin is going nowhere.
Also it is a good idea to increase the reservation fees as more people come. It will create a hype for the coin therefore making it valuable.

In NEM, BTC or NXT as long as it works. Fee is jumping after page 30. We should not discuss here because we want to reserve spaces.
The discussion thread is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.20

I didn't know about this thread sorry.

It is a great idea this fee increase per page.

I think it's not a good idea.
Alot of people posting random crap and questions in the adopter thread and pushing the fees higher.

[bob131313]

One of the key issues BTC folks have with alts is that if anything super useful is developed in the altcoin community the BTC devs can add that functionality to the BTC client ( ie shadow addresses etc..or whatever we are calling them today).
We are a testing ground for possible what-ifs that can happen to btc.
This same argument can be made for NXT/NEM. Should not any major innovation be updated into the NXT client. This seems to have a better launch scheme for distribution of the 4 billion coins which is the only improvement so far.
Better to spend 100 hours concentrating on one thing, than 1 hour on 100 things.
Just my 2 cents. GL

[utopianfuture]

One of the key issues BTC folks have with alts is that if anything super useful is developed in the altcoin community the BTC devs can add that functionality to the BTC client ( ie shadow addresses etc..or whatever we are calling them today).
We are a testing ground for possible what-ifs that can happen to btc.
This same argument can be made for NXT/NEM. Should not any major innovation be updated into the NXT client. This seems to have a better launch scheme for distribution of the 4 billion coins which is the only improvement so far.
Better to spend 100 hours concentrating on one thing, than 1 hour on 100 things.
Just my 2 cents. GL

Please we are NO ENVY movement. And we are moving forward. Thanks.

[wakasaki808]

interested.

It is not the thread.
"interested" is over, you have to pay some fees and the more you wait, the fees get higher.

Also the new comers account like him must be dismissed.
It is easy to create hundred account and get hundred times more NEM.

Yeah wish there was some type of activity requirement or creation before the date NEM was announced or something like that. Or just have it so that the sender has to link from a different account that doesn't trace back to the same account or something.

[ActionTaker]

At first I thought this could become a problem as well, but think about it:

The shares will be distributed in 1-2 months. Until then many new coins will rise and fall, so only people who are really interested in this coin will most likely come back to claim their share. And if we start with a community of 3000 people or more, each share will be rather small to begin with.

Also, since the fee will increase exponentially for quite a while, multiple buyins would be quite risky. Because in the end, nobody knows if this coin will make it or not.

[suky321]

interested.

It is not the thread.
"interested" is over, you have to pay some fees and the more you wait, the fees get higher.

Also the new comers account like him must be dismissed.
It is easy to create hundred account and get hundred times more NEM.

My apologies, I misunderstood the original post.  I have expressed interest on the original post to correct my mistake, and why should I be dismissed, that's incredible arrogance on your part superresistant.  I think everyone should be treated equally. I missed out on the original NXT stake, and as a result bought NXT to support it, and am an active member on nextcoin.org.  I think everyone deserves a fair chance to be a stakeholder.

To quote the first post:

"Completely Fair Distribution - Equal Shares for ALL

No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NEM".

[oddiccey001]

Just wondering how would you come back to claim your stake? what needs to be done? I'm very new to this

thanks

[panonym]

So NEM wasn't a joke?
Damn... these days the "registered spammer" are the rewarded one.
Fucked world.

I saw NEM, NEX, ME.TOO, PiNX
All in 2~3 days?

So 50 NXT clone halfvapourware in a month?

Do you like painful work? (PM all the user)
Or is it more the temptation of 1~5$ taken from 1000 user?
(cloudscam here we go?)

[TheMightyX]

What are your credentials for making this happen?
Why aren't you listed as a developer in your main thread?

[panonym]

I have doubt in you intent and skills.
Yet your idea is interesting.
I support you.

You will lose an awful lots of time to contact every one by PM.
But why not.

As you can see in my post #615 (page 31)
I used proof of support/work/marketing/publicity to secure my share.
I made it big & red, don't miss me on the list.

Let us know when a list is out.