[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[BldSwtTrs]

That's sad.

I hope you guys will learn some lesson from that story:
- human being is a clever but fallible creature, never give too much power to humans
- egalitarism doesn't work

What proves that?
Show me the logic       ... like I already asked someone to show the Math.

Because greed is one of the defect of the human nature.
To give every body an equal amount of every thing you need some humans with enormous power to do the distribution, but "human being is a clever but fallible creature, never give too much power to humans"

[nikola384]

Resigning from the lead position was an unfortunate necessity arising from the situation at hand. I do not condone what you did, but you took it in your stride and dealt with it maturely. Acting honourably is a deeply undervalued trait

This is pretty close to the way I see it too.

[jkoil]

Panic!!  Everyone dump your stakes at $500, so GorillaJam and Dakota can buy them on the cheap.

NxT didn't die when BCnext fled.  So UF created sockpuppets to pad interest (not to profit) in NEM?   He already resigned but he didn't have to, imho.

i have a good advise, buy up all the stakes to raise NEMs value in order to make utopianfutures 100+ secret stake accounts happy and realise his "financial freedom" which was the hidden agenda of NEM after all

what a fucking joke

No he would had been found out in taint analysis.  Remember, UF handed the analysis over to other people.

Only thing UF did was pad up interest with fake stakeholders.  No different than how celebrities have fake followers on twitter.  There's no secret 100+ stash

TaunSew u can try hard now. do it full time, it wont help either at this point. Sorry about that

You are right.  *sob*  I'll sell my stake to buy your scam NxT, Qora or whatever you are peddling.

I dont fucking care about Nxt or Qora. I cared about this project because it seemed like it was FAIR and embraced EQUALITY while in reality it stabbed me in the back, cheated and hoaxed me to the maximum. In fact, it was disgusting. Yes, thats what it was. Not fair. nothing like that. It was an agenda for utopianfuture to enrich himself, having an army of slaves called dev team and community working for him. AND HIS STAKES ARE STILL INSIDE OF THIS PROJECT, HOPING FOR U TO GO AHEAD AND REALISE HIS DREAM. Have fun!

FAIR AND EQUALITY FOR ALL

"Oh, our boy is so touchy. He can not do his doings with the paper in the toilet by himself. Mom helps him."
That was probably said by your father, when you were 12 years old.
But, now you are older - now you could stop exaggerating, that also sounds so touchy

[From Above]

Resigning from the lead position was an unfortunate necessity arising from the situation at hand. I do not condone what you did, but you took it in your stride and dealt with it maturely. Acting honourably is a deeply undervalued trait and your decision, to me, vastly outweighs anything you did wrong. You'll be missed.

What u did was acting like a criminal utopianfuture and we are glad u stood to what U did after all. yes, u did it after getting caught which is extremely poor but thank u. calling this mature would be an act of extreme immaturity as there is no need to praise a liar. we all know this.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR STABBING US, YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR PROJECTS BLOOD, IN THE BACK in an act of utter and unforgivable betrayal.

thank u very very much for opening our eyes to who u really were/are.

[CECVW]

Resigning from the lead position was an unfortunate necessity arising from the situation at hand. I do not condone what you did, but you took it in your stride and dealt with it maturely. Acting honourably is a deeply undervalued trait and your decision, to me, vastly outweighs anything you did wrong. You'll be missed.

What u did was acting like a criminal utopianfuture and we are glad u stood to u what u did after all. calling this mature would be an act of extreme immaturity as there is no need to praise a liar. we all know this.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR STABBING US, YOUR CHILDREN, IN THE BACK in an act of utter and unforgivable betrayal.

thank u very very muche

Come-from-Above You are a COWARD and low person, UP said he will not come here again and its you stabbing in the back when he can not reply.

[gvans]

all hail to the new Fuhrer! ARE U WITH ME GUYS?

There is actually an unintended seed of wisdom in this post. Maybe in the end it is only good that this project will not fixate on one person. Could it be even a well-planned move from utopian's side? Well I doubt that, but still, don't look up on anyone, only respect the work done by others. I respect what utopian has done. His good work easily outweighs few sockpuppet-accounts. And to be honest I hope he will reincarnate with a new (or old) identity to contribute more.

IMO he did not even have to resign. You know, Bill Clinton continued his fine presidency after Levinsky scandal. Which one do you think was a bigger scandal? And let us assume this issue was never revealed but did happen anyhow. It would not have affected the ongoing nem-progress in any way. Utopian would just continue with the team with his secret extra stake be it one or many. So please, emotions aside. Emtions are useful in creativity, art, religions, trolling etc. But crypto it is all about rational thinking, economics and development.

[From Above]

You are a COWARD and low person, UP said he will not come here again and its you stabbing in the back when he can not reply.

Ur insults have no effect. Utopianfuture still has his countless stakes in the project. dont try to find excuses for something that is not excusable. thank u

who thinks utopianfuture will be gone from this project is full of delusion. it is a no brainer that he sticks around albeit with different name.

dont be sad utopianfuture-lovers, hes here!

[jkoil]

That's sad.

I hope you guys will learn some lesson from that story:
- human being is a clever but fallible creature, never give too much power to humans
- egalitarism doesn't work

What proves that?
Show me the logic       ... like I already asked someone to show the Math.

Because greed is one of the defect of the human nature.
To give every body an equal amount of every thing you need some humans with enormous power to do the distribution, but "human being is a clever but fallible creature, never give too much power to humans"

In the last weeks there was discussed about equality:
as it has been seen, it is impossible to prevent someone to buy more stakes from the dumps/drops, it is more important to concentrate to the principal that the NEM or community gives someone, which he earns. Eg. that's why the developers get more stakes than the common members.



Now in this thread is written so many posts that many important notes are not read. And so the same questions, wonderings or whinings are posted multiple times  

[From Above]

what if i told u who i really was in this project? well, lets keep this for later.

[CECVW]

what if i told u who i really was in this project? well, lets keep this for later.

Nobody cares

[Momimaus]

They hack exchanges and accounts. The run away with IPO money or with the whole exchange money like Qora. They put trojans in your wallet software and and and and.....

and you make such a big thing about a fucking socket puppet account. About you could buy a stake for almost nothing which is now worth of 2000$.

Come back to reality. Nothing happens, just a guy is not godlike. He is one of us. We are all not better. Complaning about the one who sells us 2000$ for 20$.

Fuck it. Utopianfuture stay where you are. Stand by your mistake but fuck the trolls and don´t step back. Finish your awesome project with your awesome Dev-Team.

 

Please mods, ban Come-from-Above and gorillamonkey for spamming all over this thread.

[NorrisK]

what if i told u who i really was in this project? well, lets keep this for later.

You are gonna tell us you are one of the core devs?

[From Above]

They hack exchanges and accounts. The run away with IPO money or with the whole exchange money like Qora. They put trojans in your wallet software and and and and.....

and you make such a big thing about a fucking socket puppet account. About you could buy a stake for almost nothing which is now worth of 2000$.

Come back to reality. Nothing happens, just a guy is not godlike. He is one of us. We are all not better. Complaning about the one who sells us 2000$ for 20$.

Fuck it. Utopianfuture stay where you are. Stand by your mistake but fuck the trolls and don´t step back. Finish your awesome project with your awesome Dev-Team.

 

Please mods, ban Come-from-Above and gorillamonkey for spamming all over this thread.

u got something wrong here. the leader of this project stood for "fairness" and "equality" while he was stabbing everyone in the back including the dev team who did all the work for him. this is not only a big deal but outright extreme HOAX beyond all worlds.

just btw he does not really step back. this is a move he has to do because his name is ruined. if u think he stepped back completely then u clearly lack brains dude. hes here with different names.

[jkoil]

all hail to the new Fuhrer! ARE U WITH ME GUYS?

There is actually an unintended seed of wisdom in this post. Maybe in the end it is only good that this project will not fixate on one person. Could it be even a well-planned move from utopian's side? Well I doubt that, but still, don't look up on anyone, only respect the work done by others. I respect what utopian has done. His good work easily outweighs few sockpuppet-accounts. And to be honest I hope he will reincarnate with a new (or old) identity to contribute more.

IMO he did not even have to resign. You know, Bill Clinton continued his fine presidency after Levinsky scandal. Which one do you think was a bigger scandal? And let us assume this issue was never revealed but did happen anyhow. It would not have affected the ongoing nem-progress in any way. Utopian would just continue with the team with his secret extra stake be it one or many. So please, emotions aside. Emtions are useful in creativity, art, religions, trolling etc. But crypto it is all about rational thinking, economics and development.

agree - especially with these

It has been seen so many times that the emotions take over some members and even some famous crypto-names  
Maybe this kind of reasonable posts should be posted frequently here, eg. every 30 minutes  

PS. I think that someone may get an abuse suit about using that "Fuhr*" ... reserved title

[godt]

looks as too hasty decision...start was difficult

[From Above]

Satoshi likely had a dozen aliases back in 2009 to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it really was at the time.  It's a legitimate marketing technique utilized by every coin out there.

do u really need to accuse and blame Satoshi Nakamoto now for what utopianfuture did? wow this is intense, u are not better than him. are u him too?

this NEM show is getting evermore ridiculous

[CECVW]

Satoshi likely had a dozen aliases back in 2009 to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it really was at the time.  It's a legitimate marketing technique utilized by every coin out there.

do u really need to accuse and blame Satoshi Nakamoto now for what utopianfuture did? wow this is intense, u are not better than him. are u him too?

this NEM show is getting evermore ridiculous

don't you realise you are making a fool of yourself and making NEM more positive popular now? Thanks

[jkoil]

Satoshi likely had a dozen aliases back in 2009 to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it really was at the time.  It's a legitimate marketing technique utilized by every coin out there.

do u really need to accuse and blame Satoshi Nakamoto now for what utopianfuture did? wow this is intense, u are not better than him. are u him too?

this NEM show is getting evermore ridiculous

are you better?
Can you throw the first stone?  ..oh, you already are throwing but the target is wrong.

Can't you read what TaunSew just wrote: what utopianfuture did.
Come on, take your hands from your a** and think, what is reasonable. Your comments are far beyond of reasonable.

[From Above]

Satoshi likely had a dozen aliases back in 2009 to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it really was at the time.  It's a legitimate marketing technique utilized by every coin out there.

do u really need to accuse and blame Satoshi Nakamoto now for what utopianfuture did? wow this is intense, u are not better than him. are u him too?

this NEM show is getting evermore ridiculous

don't you realise you are making a fool of yourself and making NEM more positive popular now? Thanks

i dont care how i look like, u dont even know who "I" am. what i care about is to illustrate the sickness and intenseness of this hoax called nem and this is coming across in extreme clearness now. u cant deny that ur feelings are influenced.
   to call something FAIR and embracing EQUALITY and then doing then exact opposite by abusing leader status is an extremely Low act. how u can support this is unbelievable i understand u are desperate to secure ur investment and thats understandable. but is it morally correct? not a slightest bit.

[CECVW]

Satoshi likely had a dozen aliases back in 2009 to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it really was at the time.  It's a legitimate marketing technique utilized by every coin out there.

do u really need to accuse and blame Satoshi Nakamoto now for what utopianfuture did? wow this is intense, u are not better than him. are u him too?

this NEM show is getting evermore ridiculous

don't you realise you are making a fool of yourself and making NEM more positive popular now? Thanks

i dont care how i look like, u dont even know who "I" am. what i care about is to illustrate the sickness and intenseness of this hoax called nem and this is coming across in extreme clearness now.

to call something FAIR and embracing EQUALITY and the doing then exact opposite is an extremely Low act. how u can support this is unbelievable

You just bored me, I am going to bed