[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[Saverenergy]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

[zahidmoon]

A realistic, if very unpopular view. There is still a lot of hope around, and this bear market has a lot of work to do.

Could be another 2 years before the real recovery. I am not entirely convinced that institutional money will be entering at the lows however. More likely to be trend-following.

Thank you.
Hope is vital & necessary, but it depends from which perspective. I'm not hoping for another bull run in 2018, nor for a new ATH for BTC or ETH in 2019.
What I am hoping though - is enough correction on the market in general - to completely fill the bags throughout the whole of next year.
Trend following? Yes, only to keep them moderately busy & amused. Will have to hodl something at one point - and that will be only when bought in the very very lows.

so ether is better  

Is that really what you gathered? Wow, OK, whatever suits you mate

Institutional money will crush this market to 0 so they can accumulate. The cheaper they bring eth down the more they will accumulate and the bigger fund managers commissions will be. Everybody who believes that he will sell to the institutionals at higher prices is beyond stupid he is retarded. That;s how they act they keep pushing the prices lower and force you to sell your eth to them.

i agree with you. they just want to buy cheap and hold everything then the push the price up and then they sell at the price they want
right now who are selling is making big mistake i think
what if the price again hit its all time high price in 2019 then seller will regret and buyers will be happy

[mehar_gee]

A realistic, if very unpopular view. There is still a lot of hope around, and this bear market has a lot of work to do.

Could be another 2 years before the real recovery. I am not entirely convinced that institutional money will be entering at the lows however. More likely to be trend-following.

Thank you.
Hope is vital & necessary, but it depends from which perspective. I'm not hoping for another bull run in 2018, nor for a new ATH for BTC or ETH in 2019.
What I am hoping though - is enough correction on the market in general - to completely fill the bags throughout the whole of next year.
Trend following? Yes, only to keep them moderately busy & amused. Will have to hodl something at one point - and that will be only when bought in the very very lows.

so ether is better  

Is that really what you gathered? Wow, OK, whatever suits you mate

Institutional money will crush this market to 0 so they can accumulate. The cheaper they bring eth down the more they will accumulate and the bigger fund managers commissions will be. Everybody who believes that he will sell to the institutionals at higher prices is beyond stupid he is retarded. That;s how they act they keep pushing the prices lower and force you to sell your eth to them.

i agree with you. they just want to buy cheap and hold everything then the push the price up and then they sell at the price they want
right now who are selling is making big mistake i think
what if the price again hit its all time high price in 2019 then seller will regret and buyers will be happy

looks like people thinking bitcoin and eth price decrease more so they are selling eth and bitcoin and holding usdt and when crypto price hit the bottom then they will buy again but how to know that what the bottom of crypto is in the current position what if current prices are the bottom and all of sudden prices starts rising?
i am buying eth with each dump and not selling it maybe a good investment right now buying crypto

[peterlustig]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

[mandor]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

what? that's bad news if Bitcoin will reach $ 1000 and then Ethereum increaslyng not there is a price it if Bitcoin fell as bad as that. if that happens maybe the crypto market will cry and at the moment we can see the market conditions now are very worrying. It looks like the news about Bitcoin will die soon will happen if the price of Bitcoin falls to $ 1000.

[IncludeBeer]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

what? that's bad news if Bitcoin will reach $ 1000 and then Ethereum increaslyng not there is a price it if Bitcoin fell as bad as that. if that happens maybe the crypto market will cry and at the moment we can see the market conditions now are very worrying. It looks like the news about Bitcoin will die soon will happen if the price of Bitcoin falls to $ 1000.

I'm sure somewhere is an accurate (and magical) prediction maker. 

[adaseb]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

[cool4y]

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[Hullo]

These are extreme price predictions that immediately become popular. Neither Bitcoin is going to $1k nor crypto will see zero value. These are people those work to create permanent restlessness in minds of investors. This uncertainty doesn't let them watch and follow the real potential and majority plan based on these predictions.

[bitcoin_diamond]

There is some hidden news about cryptos
The accumulation has started there are vast amount of coins being bought the coins on mvis and theice platform are going to surpass the ATH because nasdaq is really big and their customer base is huge. Just hodl don't lose faith the herd is coming guys. Just stick with your portfolio find the mvis and theice index.

[dr.cheema]

Price of ethereum is not rising but stable right at the moment, hope so support line of $100 will not break by panic seller.
Bitcoin again standing at $4000 and anytime btc can go higher or go down but no prediction about current crypto market.
This article: https://ethereumworldnews.com/ethereum-price-analysis-eth-usd-delicate-100/

[2012]

it's all going down to hell. 

Big wales already entered into this ecosystem so they are playing a psychological game with weak hands and before next rally they want to take control on over maximum supply of this coin. I hope this will be final shake out and after this we will see little recovery.

[101nowby]

it's all going down to hell. 

Big wales already entered into this ecosystem so they are playing a psychological game with weak hands and before next rally they want to take control on over maximum supply of this coin. I hope this will be final shake out and after this we will see little recovery.

I so want to believe in your words. Very sad to look into your wallet 

[tspmhack5]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

I have the same opinion with you. And I believe BTC will not return 1000 for a number of reasons:
1) Investment funds who are holding many MOFs will not let the MOF decrease so deeply
2) Lower prices will attract more investors to buy and will push up the price of BTC.
So with ETH there will also be certain support levels. I personally think the maximum support for ETH will be $ 65.
But if ETH developers limit ETH supply like BTC or LTC, then ETH prices will increase again

[sureshnsnet]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

what? that's bad news if Bitcoin will reach $ 1000 and then Ethereum increaslyng not there is a price it if Bitcoin fell as bad as that. if that happens maybe the crypto market will cry and at the moment we can see the market conditions now are very worrying. It looks like the news about Bitcoin will die soon will happen if the price of Bitcoin falls to $ 1000.

The crypto market condition is really bad from the beginning Jan 2018 still now we did not exciting when bull runs will come in the crypto market and there are so many crypto experts are predicting about bitcoin or crypto market all goes down but I still believe in ETH and crypto market, I hope that next year will be great for all crypto investor.

[Saverenergy]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

If happens about what you write, then not only venture capital will be destroyed, but many startups and ISO projects will be destroyed. Many investors and miners will lose their money for a very short time.

[Cryptotourist]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

If happens about what you write, then not only venture capital will be destroyed, but many startups and ISO projects will be destroyed. Many investors and miners will lose their money for a very short time.

And then everybody will be much happier 

[alevlaslo]

besides bitcoin and ETH, you can not sit in anything in a falling market

ETC could not stand the bearish trend and announced the termination of the activities of one of its groups of developers
https://twitter.com/etcdev/status/1069625401515872256

[Majormax]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

The toughest issue is not going to be the low print price, but the time taken to recover, as you say. Around the beginning of this year my own estimate for the next BTC low was $1500 (just above the previous-but-one high)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg29705489#msg29705489

Back in Feb , I envisaged a low of $100 for ETH , but it could be $50 even. The recovery is likely to take longer than in 2015-6, because looking at the charts you can see the adoption waves flattening out over the long term.

Not a pleasant thought, but this CryptoWinter might last through to 2022.

[peterlustig]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

what? that's bad news if Bitcoin will reach $ 1000 and then Ethereum increaslyng not there is a price it if Bitcoin fell as bad as that. if that happens maybe the crypto market will cry and at the moment we can see the market conditions now are very worrying. It looks like the news about Bitcoin will die soon will happen if the price of Bitcoin falls to $ 1000.

I will not worry at all because 1k is an extremely low amount for bitcoin the miners will never let the price go that low.