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March 03, 2019, 01:41:57 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2019, 02:22:35 PM by henke1
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.

Ethereum dosn't have a maximum cap, and since will transition to PoS it's a certain. However if the PoS reward will be fixed, Ethereum will be deflationary since the supply will go up but the reward will stay the same

If ethereum supply would be 'capped', as Vitalik desires to , has there been thoughts about 'names' for the 'fractions' of ethereum ? like for example with bitcoin ->
A Satoshi is the smallest fraction of a Bitcoin that can currently be sent: 0.00000001 BTC, that is, a hundredth of a millionth BTC.

maybe 'vita' ....  from 'vitalik' and also meaning 'life'  Cheesy
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March 03, 2019, 01:42:52 PM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.

Ethereum dosn't have a maximum cap, and since will transition to PoS it's a certain. However if the PoS reward will be fixed, Ethereum will be deflationary since the supply will go up but the reward will stay the same
Proof of stake will be best for ethereum since its acts like a super computer similar to android where you build your apps for playstore
since we have many operating system on phones Linux, Windows, Mac, Blackberry.  I feel ethereum will be Android of the internet money since all dapps are mostly built on Ethereum. Ethereum is not designed to be store of value but internet of value.  Our internet is the best example of Internet of value where you use internet and pay for using it.. similarly ethereum would be like that.
History has it we dont keep using same exact thing for centuries which is not perfect at all.. digital money is the way out of debt and  is futuristic and eventually goverment will covert ur fiat to digital money.. digital money is way better since it has track record and is done very systemically unlike fiat which is more anonymous then monero lol
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March 03, 2019, 03:41:07 PM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.
On the contrary ... i think, when there is a 'defined' max. supply, like on bitcoin, then it is more 'attractive'(especially) to hodlers ->
Adopting a maximum supply of ether coins would undoubtedly render Ethereum more attractive to investors.

Of course. If there is a fixed maximum supply, the investors do know when the coin will stop being dumped by the miners or stakers. In case of unlimited supply, there's no telling that when the dumping will stop!
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March 03, 2019, 04:01:32 PM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.

Ethereum dosn't have a maximum cap, and since will transition to PoS it's a certain. However if the PoS reward will be fixed, Ethereum will be deflationary since the supply will go up but the reward will stay the same
Proof of stake will be best for ethereum since its acts like a super computer similar to android where you build your apps for playstore
since we have many operating system on phones Linux, Windows, Mac, Blackberry.  I feel ethereum will be Android of the internet money since all dapps are mostly built on Ethereum. Ethereum is not designed to be store of value but internet of value.  Our internet is the best example of Internet of value where you use internet and pay for using it.. similarly ethereum would be like that.
History has it we dont keep using same exact thing for centuries which is not perfect at all.. digital money is the way out of debt and  is futuristic and eventually goverment will covert ur fiat to digital money.. digital money is way better since it has track record and is done very systemically unlike fiat which is more anonymous then monero lol

Nobody knows the distribution and that can sometimes be a threat in a PoS blockchain as someone could in theory hold the majority of the voting power. I know it's unlikely, but not impossible.

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March 03, 2019, 04:07:55 PM
 #22505

max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.

Ethereum dosn't have a maximum cap, and since will transition to PoS it's a certain. However if the PoS reward will be fixed, Ethereum will be deflationary since the supply will go up but the reward will stay the same
Proof of stake will be best for ethereum since its acts like a super computer similar to android where you build your apps for playstore
since we have many operating system on phones Linux, Windows, Mac, Blackberry.  I feel ethereum will be Android of the internet money since all dapps are mostly built on Ethereum. Ethereum is not designed to be store of value but internet of value.  Our internet is the best example of Internet of value where you use internet and pay for using it.. similarly ethereum would be like that.
History has it we dont keep using same exact thing for centuries which is not perfect at all.. digital money is the way out of debt and  is futuristic and eventually goverment will covert ur fiat to digital money.. digital money is way better since it has track record and is done very systemically unlike fiat which is more anonymous then monero lol

Nobody knows the distribution and that can sometimes be a threat in a PoS blockchain as someone could in theory hold the majority of the voting power. I know it's unlikely, but not impossible.
voting power where did u get that lol as far as i know proof of stake is just a tech tat uses the coins to give u stakes in rewards..
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March 03, 2019, 04:57:59 PM
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the price is currently looking very much down at levels 125$ approximately.
from what we see at the moment, speculators have more influence on the price movement than the development itself which is not encouraging.
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March 03, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
 #22507

max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.
On the contrary ... i think, when there is a 'defined' max. supply, like on bitcoin, then it is more 'attractive'(especially) to hodlers ->
Adopting a maximum supply of ether coins would undoubtedly render Ethereum more attractive to investors.

I agree with you, if ethereum has a max supply. might make investors more interested. but if it is announced suddenly, I think there will be a big shock on the market. this only makes speculators rich, so for now we have to be satisfied with this situation.

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March 03, 2019, 09:27:55 PM
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wow ethereum works really fast the upgrade was great.
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March 03, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
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So was the hard fork Constantinople successful? There is no new announcement about it but we already passed the designated block.

You can't have successful hard fork with 2TB blockchain.


You got to be kidding me did the size of Ethereum blockchain data increase to more than 2TB after the fork?

No. He's referring to a myth. The actual blockchain size is not 2tb.

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March 03, 2019, 10:50:37 PM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.
On the contrary ... i think, when there is a 'defined' max. supply, like on bitcoin, then it is more 'attractive'(especially) to hodlers ->
Adopting a maximum supply of ether coins would undoubtedly render Ethereum more attractive to investors.

Of course. If there is a fixed maximum supply, the investors do know when the coin will stop being dumped by the miners or stakers. In case of unlimited supply, there's no telling that when the dumping will stop!
We need hardcap supply and that should be the main point. To stop the dump from miners and give the more chance to the stakers to get their ethereum and that should become the best solution at this moment dude.



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March 03, 2019, 11:08:39 PM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.
On the contrary ... i think, when there is a 'defined' max. supply, like on bitcoin, then it is more 'attractive'(especially) to hodlers ->
Adopting a maximum supply of ether coins would undoubtedly render Ethereum more attractive to investors.

Of course. If there is a fixed maximum supply, the investors do know when the coin will stop being dumped by the miners or stakers. In case of unlimited supply, there's no telling that when the dumping will stop!
We need hardcap supply and that should be the main point. To stop the dump from miners and give the more chance to the stakers to get their ethereum and that should become the best solution at this moment dude.

Maximum supply and investors have nothing to do with the 'style' of emission like staking or mining. Investors want a fixed number so that they may know that at what point ethereum will become scarce.
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March 03, 2019, 11:48:27 PM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.
On the contrary ... i think, when there is a 'defined' max. supply, like on bitcoin, then it is more 'attractive'(especially) to hodlers ->
Adopting a maximum supply of ether coins would undoubtedly render Ethereum more attractive to investors.

Of course. If there is a fixed maximum supply, the investors do know when the coin will stop being dumped by the miners or stakers. In case of unlimited supply, there's no telling that when the dumping will stop!
We need hardcap supply and that should be the main point. To stop the dump from miners and give the more chance to the stakers to get their ethereum and that should become the best solution at this moment dude.

Maximum supply and investors have nothing to do with the 'style' of emission like staking or mining. Investors want a fixed number so that they may know that at what point ethereum will become scarce.

i do really support if they had max.supply since inflation was really bad for hodler

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March 04, 2019, 06:04:30 AM
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Besides Bitcoin, most of any type of alts are centralized one way or another.

It also wasn't Vitalik's idea to reduce the issuance, it was the call of many of the other devs and they did it purely on the basis because the ice age was taking an affect on the block times.

I think what makes a coin more centralized is not the developers but the miners who build private efficient ASICs and can easily 51% attack the network, similiar to what happened with ETC a few months back. Basicallly hash power came out of nowhere.

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March 04, 2019, 06:27:49 AM
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After the Constantinople upgrade gas fees has suddenly reduced a lot. I think after upgrades like sharding, Plasma; ETH will offer a lot more speedy transactions and with negligible fees. I wonder what will be the USP of ETH clones at that time!

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March 04, 2019, 07:02:23 AM
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I did not see any changes after "The Constantinople upgraded", because there was no good enough innovation to encourage new drama in the crypto scope in 2019. I feel bored with the smartcontract platform that has no innovation at all, I only think after "The Constantinople upgrade "there will be a new drama that overflows. But that disappointed me

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March 04, 2019, 07:21:19 AM
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wow ethereum works really fast the upgrade was great.

How do you know? Their tranasctions speed was increased or no? How many TPS they have right now? Im curios, why team didnt announce this after hardfork...
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March 04, 2019, 08:17:56 AM
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I did not see any changes after "The Constantinople upgraded", because there was no good enough innovation to encourage new drama in the crypto scope in 2019. I feel bored with the smartcontract platform that has no innovation at all, I only think after "The Constantinople upgrade "there will be a new drama that overflows. But that disappointed me
What drama you are expecting, the upgrade is necessary and it's a big shift of network
If there is a drama, that should be prior to the fork but I only see some pump and dump when the schedule was approaching.

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March 04, 2019, 08:26:47 AM
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These upgrades were enhancing the capabilities and functionalities in protocol. We have to wait to see impact of all this work in future. We can say in simple world they provided structure for next level of development with this hard fork. Features they are intending will take take to activate and functional fully over the time. This upgrading will be used for next rise constantly.


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March 04, 2019, 09:18:10 AM
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max. supply of ether is now 105,061,446.3125 , but according this article , is there going to be a max. supply 'forever'  ?  Roll Eyes

This is starting to get serious, the supply is now close to what Vitalik proposed as "maximum" months back. Hodlers will lose confidence in ETH, if the maximum supply is now decided and coded.

Ethereum dosn't have a maximum cap, and since will transition to PoS it's a certain. However if the PoS reward will be fixed, Ethereum will be deflationary since the supply will go up but the reward will stay the same
Proof of stake will be best for ethereum since its acts like a super computer similar to android where you build your apps for playstore
since we have many operating system on phones Linux, Windows, Mac, Blackberry.  I feel ethereum will be Android of the internet money since all dapps are mostly built on Ethereum. Ethereum is not designed to be store of value but internet of value.  Our internet is the best example of Internet of value where you use internet and pay for using it.. similarly ethereum would be like that.
History has it we dont keep using same exact thing for centuries which is not perfect at all.. digital money is the way out of debt and  is futuristic and eventually goverment will covert ur fiat to digital money.. digital money is way better since it has track record and is done very systemically unlike fiat which is more anonymous then monero lol

Nobody knows the distribution and that can sometimes be a threat in a PoS blockchain as someone could in theory hold the majority of the voting power. I know it's unlikely, but not impossible.
voting power where did u get that lol as far as i know proof of stake is just a tech tat uses the coins to give u stakes in rewards..

In a sense you vote with your coins at stake on what the correct chain is. As a validator you cast a vote on the correctness of transactions. If you have a massive stake in the network you also have a massive say which transactions to include and which not.

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March 04, 2019, 09:41:04 AM
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I did not see any changes after "The Constantinople upgraded", because there was no good enough innovation to encourage new drama in the crypto scope in 2019. I feel bored with the smartcontract platform that has no innovation at all, I only think after "The Constantinople upgrade "there will be a new drama that overflows. But that disappointed me

Block time reduced, gas fees much lowered. So the blockchain is faster and cheaper.
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