[ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - Android wallet launched

[mcg]

mcg. You say 1$ is unreallistic. So, what is realistic price in your mind ?

currently it does look unrealistic. it depends on merchant adoption.

1$ would mean a 21 billion marketcap.

not even bitcoin has that.

thats why unrealistic ( at this moment )

edit: 225 btc is needed to get price to only 25 ( 2,812,500,000 leafs @ 8 ).

i think price should be +/- 20-25 now but because of the manipulation that is not the case.

[jootn2kx]

would be glad to ever see it again @ 25

[mcg]

would be glad to ever see it again @ 25

wouldnt we all... there is not much we can do about this.

its waiting for the pump.

only thing that could be done is dump all into these buy walls and rebuy cheaper.

ofcourse no guarantees.

[pabloangello]

mcg. You say 1$ is unreallistic. So, what is realistic price in your mind ?

currently it does look unrealistic. it depends on merchant adoption.

1$ would mean a 21 billion marketcap.

not even bitcoin has that.

thats why unrealistic ( at this moment )

edit: 225 btc is needed to get price to only 25 ( 2,812,500,000 leafs @ 8 ).

i think price should be +/- 20-25 now but because of the manipulation that is not the case.

225 btc doesn't have to be needed for that. Walls can move.

[mcg]

mcg. You say 1$ is unreallistic. So, what is realistic price in your mind ?

currently it does look unrealistic. it depends on merchant adoption.

1$ would mean a 21 billion marketcap.

not even bitcoin has that.

thats why unrealistic ( at this moment )

edit: 225 btc is needed to get price to only 25 ( 2,812,500,000 leafs @ 8 ).

i think price should be +/- 20-25 now but because of the manipulation that is not the case.

225 btc doesn't have to be needed for that. Walls can move.

if it was done now by me, i would need 225 btc... to get it to 25.

i know these sell walls are fake and probably..... they will be removed when the pump begins.

[pabloangello]

mcg. You say 1$ is unreallistic. So, what is realistic price in your mind ?

currently it does look unrealistic. it depends on merchant adoption.

1$ would mean a 21 billion marketcap.

not even bitcoin has that.

thats why unrealistic ( at this moment )

edit: 225 btc is needed to get price to only 25 ( 2,812,500,000 leafs @ 8 ).

i think price should be +/- 20-25 now but because of the manipulation that is not the case.

225 btc doesn't have to be needed for that. Walls can move.

if it was done now by me, i would need 225 btc... to get it to 25.

i know these sell walls are fake and probably..... they will be removed when the pump begins.

Yeah if you mean instant buy ;] But noone will do that seeing such big walls satoshi after satoshi.

[mcg]

so we are at the whale's mercy at this moment.

lets see when this bursts

if i have any sign of it or when it begins we will update everyone through the channels known ( twitter etc ).

better ride it then fight it.

[1stbet]

mcg - Is it possible to implement Adaptive N-factor to LEAF now?

Please do not give a wallet update (LEAF) for next 2 to 3 months.. as exchanges, pools and users would get annoyed.

[aaron_m]

Multipools have already adapted to Adaptive N Factor

[1stbet]

mcg - Is it possible to implement Adaptive N-factor to LEAF now?

Please do not give a wallet update (LEAF) for next 2 to 3 months.. as exchanges, pools and users would get annoyed.

Can you please explain adaptive N-factor to me?

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/1xtzts/can_someone_explain_the_adaptive_nfactor/

[mimini0147]

I think leafcoin will be like Vertcoin, it will pump very high in some time, but after that the coin will be dead

[blueangel01]

I think leafcoin will be like Vertcoin, it will pump wery high in some time, but after that the coin will be dead

I always put my sell order above 2 SD. Just in case the pumpers attack this coins. Especially Fontase. I will just buy back when it is cheaper.

[mimini0147]

it's very strange, why http://coinmarketcap.com/ remove volume on the Cryptsy, that's the bigest leafcoin exchange market. after that the price was kepping crash

[mcg]

mcg. You say 1$ is unreallistic. So, what is realistic price in your mind ?

currently it does look unrealistic. it depends on merchant adoption.

1$ would mean a 21 billion marketcap.

not even bitcoin has that.

thats why unrealistic ( at this moment )

edit: 225 btc is needed to get price to only 25 ( 2,812,500,000 leafs @ 8 ).

i think price should be +/- 20-25 now but because of the manipulation that is not the case.

225 btc doesn't have to be needed for that. Walls can move.

if it was done now by me, i would need 225 btc... to get it to 25.

i know these sell walls are fake and probably..... they will be removed when the pump begins.

Yeah if you mean instant buy ;] But noone will do that seeing such big walls satoshi after satoshi.

We'd rise in price sooner if everyone panic sold to the whale.

thats what i meant with dumping into the buy walls order.... but who is prepared to take a loss.... some might be down ( like me for a large part ) 66%... so 66% loss.

[mcg]

I think leafcoin will be like Vertcoin, it will pump very high in some time, but after that the coin will be dead

it wont be dead... even when this pump occurs ( and the following dump, which WILL happen )... we still will be finishing the projects.

[mcg]

Multipools have already adapted to Adaptive N Factor

also this is true....  trademybit pool has adopted N Factor. i think they are one of the first.

when there are profitable coins @ Nfactor... the pools will just adopt.

as the statement of trademybit mentions, let me quote/reference:

"SCRYPT Multiport profits are on the low side yet again today. I've set the main scrypt multiport on DOGE for the time being, as many of our coins are performing sub-standardly at present outside of DOGE. The Scrypt-N multiport is performing rather well though, please feel free to grab VERTMINER and join us for some good profits!"

so it wont take long until other pools ( like middlecoin ) adopt as well.

the problem with multipools is that everything is based on time, instead of actual submitted shares/hashrate... we cannot see ( still thinking about a way ) what the hashrate was ( when compared to the network ) of the pool winning the block. As soon as we find out a way... it might be game over for the multipools. Might require a drastic change to the software... some might call that innovation.

if you have ideas on this... please feel free to dump these ideas in here so they can be discussed.

[Dallas5]

if it was done now by me, i would need 225 btc... to get it to 25.

i know these sell walls are fake and probably..... they will be removed when the pump begins.

A pump only temporarily raises the price and then it drops again, leaf was 20 and now it's at a sad 7 sat. The only thing to fix this is to give it more value, you talked about a direct leaf>$$$'s exchange?

I thought about setting up a store to buy tree seeds with leaf, bonsai, apple tree seeds and so on. Then you can buy real trees with leafs. Only thing is I don't have the time. But the point is it has to have more uses. You're leaf foundation is a step in the right direction but you also need something where the user gets something physical in return.

Now let's get that leaf back to 20+ sat, _{or I'll have to sleep on the couch again.}

[mcg]

if it was done now by me, i would need 225 btc... to get it to 25.

i know these sell walls are fake and probably..... they will be removed when the pump begins.

A pump only temporarily raises the price and then it drops again, leaf was 20 and now it's at a sad 7 sat. The only thing to fix this is to give it more value, you talked about a direct leaf>$$$'s exchange?

I thought about setting up a store to buy tree seeds with leaf, bonsai, apple tree seeds and so on. Then you can buy real trees with leafs. Only thing is I don't have the time. But the point is it has to have more uses. You're leaf foundation is a step in the right direction but you also need something where the user gets something physical in return.

Now let's get that leaf back to 20+ sat, _{or I'll have to sleep on the couch again.}

your gf/wife giving you a hard time... here its the same. anyways, i like your idea... thats why we are setting up an ebay-alike marketplace so any type of goods can be exchanged for leaf. However, it does take time to complete it... i dont expect it to be ready before the major dump/pump. c-cex currently exchanges leafs to usd and vice versa.. but we need a direct gateway to usd ( like bitpay ), to get full merchant attention.

we cant do anything currently.... its waiting game ( while we are developing projects ). it will go over 20 during the pump. no doubt.

[multioptions]

they buy with >10 Btc at 8 and sell at 9 very easy >1 Btc profit
and they buy again and sell again, it's a circle will be broken just by their greedy or if big buy will happen

[alecaruc]

https://twitter.com/DoctorCrypto/status/436248761627865088
something is happening

i follow @DoctorCrypto on twitter, i trust him... he doesn't give a lot of advices but they are often true. Follow him for a medium term profit, he doesn't pump coin , he gives advices after his studies i think