[ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - Android wallet launched

[jootn2kx]

Good work keep it up guys

[mimini0147]

Balance: 11064595.745501 LEAF
Transactions in: 1
Received: 11064595.745501 LEAF
Transactions out: 0
Sent: 0 LEAF

what that mean?

It means the address you searched currently has that many coins.  It has only ever had that one transaction in, no transactions out.

i deposite my coins on Cryptsy, since 2014-02-23 16:14:27, but still 0 leaf in my Cryptsy account, i dont understand...

[mimini0147]

ah, its ok, it appear in my account

[mcg]

k great... cryptsy is always slow...

[djslick]

sooo, how's the whole "removing random block rewards" thing coming? cause it is a real issue... other coins which i won't name here have taken steps to remove random block rewards, and are harkforking.

i know that this coin has had to deal with multiple hardforks, and it's a pain getting all the exchanges and pools updated, but look at this:



it's systemic across all public pools, there is a pool/large miner who is poaching all of the high value blocks. we had a vote, it has been decided, so i'd hope that it becomes a priority for the team.

[aaron_m]

Its being looked into, along with other measures to stop the cherry picking by multipools, we'll update once tests are completed.

[mcg]

we can remove it but we need to pushout another update then.... what do you ppl think?

take in account all the issues we had with cryptsy.

also in a few days the blocks will become 125k at most.

also we are working out an idea to prevent very fast blocks....

still needs tuning but i think we are on the right path.

cant explain in detail yet until we have tested it.

its probably a multipool.

they also take the low amounts...

[Dagger75]

This message I just received is reminder to make sure all your passwords are different on each pool and exchange

Hi,

I'm contacting your and other 4 pool owners. I'm working on an application which will automatically use all names/passwords/emails you have and find matches to other sites (like exchanges). Then it will transfer all funds to bitcoin and send it in your bitcoin wallet, which is only thing you'll need to provide.

It should be ready in a week and I'll give a good bargain to the first person who tries it, if he will be willing to say to next potential costumers it's legit.

From ethic reason you don't have to worry. I can promise you, that if you send just 1% of what you make to charity (like in africa, or asia), you'll do 10 times more good, than you did bad.

If you are interested or/and you have any ideas, please address them to me at email:  imaholder@seznam.cz

Thank you for your time, hope I'll hear from you.

WOW, Why is there so much Scum in this community??  Who needs a phishing site when you can just setup a Pool for Noobs to mine alts on!?  Glad I never use same passwords anywhere but sure sucks that people around here are so willing to scam and screw people that they Should be willing to help...

Thank you Aaron for posting this and EVERYONE Needs to Pass it on and Post it on IRC so Others can Change all P/Ws and are Aware of what's going on around here.

[multioptions]

300 Page!!

Nice

And foundation now over 7.5 million

And price at 6 satoshi !

Yeah, but we're not worried about that, its a whale manipulator on cryptsy.  We're concentrating on bringing services to the coin eg the full foundation site and auction/market place in the next week or so

can you explain please why Leaf have all these sell orders at all prices unlike all other coins (something about pool i don't understand)...

[djslick]

re: getting rid of random rewards, i'll just link my post over on karmacoin, they're dealing with the exact same thing...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=447657.msg5249601#msg5249601


it's harshly worded, but it's how i feel towards seeing the criminal behaviour these private pools/large hashers. we crack the shitty blocks with terrible rewards, and then they jump on and poach the high value blocks from us. we're paying money to do their dirty work, we're literally paying money to pick up the garbage bits, so that they can eat like kings. all of this they can just steal the next big block reward from us. it's criminal, and we're letting it happen.

the solution is not to say: "well, the rewards will be halfing soon anyways, so what's the point"

the point is that this will always be around as long as we have random rewards! (p.s. they're not random, you can tell wha the next block reward is through the hash of the previous block, that's how these people do it, for anyone not following along)

even if the rewards are between 1-500, they will get all the 450 blocks, we'll get the 50-150 blocks.

and now that the rewards are high, is even more of a reason to get this done immediately. we're allowing them to literally hoarde the majority of all the leaf that will ever be made! how is this fair at all? how does this bode well for the future?

i know that it's a bitch getting another update out the door soon after the last, but no random rewards is just as essential to the long life of this coin as KGW was. unless we're all complacent in getting screwed.

[aaron_m]

We are working on a different solution all together, and are not "just waiting for block drop"

[Dagger75]

can you explain please why Leaf have all these sell orders at all prices unlike all other coins (something about pool i don't understand)...

Take a look at Feathercoin on BTC-e...

A couple Whales control the movement of the coin so that they are able to Buy at the lowest and sell at the highest and just repeating this movement over a couple of satoshi.  If you want or need more info then i would suggest you invest more time reading.

It sucks, but unless you have 100btc ready to buy up their sell walls so price is free to move again, we're just going to have to spoil their plans in other ways and keep working on LEAF to increase it's fundamental value to attract more buyers.  LEAF is undervalued and this won't be able to be kept a secret for long...You can help spread the word thru Forums, Reddit, Twitter, ETC  I would also advise stocking up on LEAF now since it'll probably never get this low again once it makes it's move upwards.

[splawik21]

exactly, the pricing discussion is useless.

why ? the price is all !

NO NO it isn`t .... it`s importand but not ALL

[whoiis]

exactly, the pricing discussion is useless.

why ? the price is all !

NO NO it isn`t .... it`s importand but not ALL

the confidence in the coin matters, and one representation of confidence is price.
the problem is when whales mess with prices they damage the coin since ppl see it's low or stagnating and stop mining

[djslick]

We are working on a different solution all together, and are not "just waiting for block drop"

ok, so instead of just getting rid of random block rewards, and fixing the problem immediately, we're waiting for a new untested solution to materialize, all while just handing more of this coin to criminals. by the time a fix is out there, %75 of coins that will ever be minted will already be mined. again, handing our money, power, and hashing to thieves.

LOL

man, i wanna believe in this coin, but i can't understand this one bit... good luck

i've hung out in the IRC for this coin alot, and the devs seems really passionate about it, and very kind and patient and understanding. but while that's your greatest stregnth, it's also your greatest weakness. you need to GET IT DONE. you don't need to have a community vote, you don't need to talk about it for a week. JUST FIX IT IMMEDIATELY.

[mmihai1978]

We are working on a different solution all together, and are not "just waiting for block drop"

ok, so instead of just getting rid of random block rewards, and fixing the problem immediately, we're waiting for a new untested solution to materialize, all while just handing more of this coin to criminals. by the time a fix is out there, %75 of coins that will ever be minted will already be mined. again, handing our money, power, and hashing to thieves.

LOL

man, i wanna believe in this coin, but i can't understand this one bit... good luck

i've hung out in the IRC for this coin alot, and the devs seems really passionate about it, and very kind and patient and understanding. but while that's your greatest stregnth, it's also your greatest weakness. you need to GET IT DONE. you don't need to have a community vote, you don't need to talk about it for a week. JUST FIX IT IMMEDIATELY.

+1

[Dagger75]

We are working on a different solution all together, and are not "just waiting for block drop"

ok, so instead of just getting rid of random block rewards, and fixing the problem immediately, we're waiting for a new untested solution to materialize, all while just handing more of this coin to criminals. by the time a fix is out there, %75 of coins that will ever be minted will already be mined. again, handing our money, power, and hashing to thieves.

LOL

man, i wanna believe in this coin, but i can't understand this one bit... good luck

i've hung out in the IRC for this coin alot, and the devs seems really passionate about it, and very kind and patient and understanding. but while that's your greatest stregnth, it's also your greatest weakness. you need to GET IT DONE. you don't need to have a community vote, you don't need to talk about it for a week. JUST FIX IT IMMEDIATELY.

The problem is that it'll require everyone Update their Wallet again which is a big deal.  You saw how long it took Cryptsy to Update and that is how the price ended up this low in the first place...due to a week+ worth of Auto-sells (from Multipools) coming in all at once.  This can create a very big mess if people don't realize how important it is to Update when told too.

I've noticed that barely anyone is taking advantage of the 6 votes an hour to vote for LEAF on https://www.mintpal.com/voting.  Everyone needs to work on getting the word out on LEAF too and not just complain about the price going down.  You'll notice that communities that work together tend to have the best coins w/ the best prices (Technicals  in perspective).  So before any of you go ahead and Post asking why the Price has gone down, please see what You can do to Help first whether by Posting on Reddit, IRC, Bitcointalk, Twitter, ETC.  LEAF is a good coin, but we, as a Community, need to help the DEVS in Promoting it whenever we can find the chance! 

[multioptions]

Vote here, https://www.mintpal.com/voting
let's see how much supporters Leaf have

[mcg]

The problem with the random block reward fix is the update. Removing it is a fix of barely 2 minutes. THAT is not the problem.

The problem is that we need another push of an update.

Could potentially KILL the coin.

If cryptsy fails to update again ( high chance, high risk.. and by the time they are updated we would be near to the blockhalve after the current incoming one )... we would have another megadump right into the buy orders.

Then the price is 1.

[mcg]

The problem with the random block reward fix is the update. Removing it is a fix of barely 2 minutes. THAT is not the problem.

The problem is that we need another push of an update.

Could potentially KILL the coin.

If cryptsy fails to update again ( high chance, high risk.. and by the time they are updated we would be near to the blockhalve after the current incoming one )... we would have another megadump right into the buy orders.

Then the price is 1.

Why not set the date ahead like 1 or 2 months then? Gives people ample time to update.

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I noticed that IFC is very successful, 9 times as many coins, and almost 2x our value. Now, I KNOW we are a new alt, etc. etc. but what makes IFC special and valuable, and how do we replicate that?

in 2 months the random block awards will be over anyway. we are being poisoned. on one side we have the trading whales and on the other side we have the multipools dumping into buy orders.

( we might have found a solution to multipools ( prevent fast blocks < 0.5*blocktime ), integrating and testing that )

i will have a look at infinitecoin.

edit: http://altexplorer.net/chain/LeafCoin , look at payout adresses.

37871   58 left   * 24/02 06:34:22   46.77   176,062.08    191,579   283,028   158,513   82.74
37848   35 left   * 24/02 06:03:54   17.64   55,957.00    72,274   289,850   108,248   149.77
37834   21 left   * 24/02 05:43:09   20.68   171,543.00    84,688   270,256   174,705   206.29

public pools ( hash so ) also get high blocks.