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September 18, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
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It sounds to me like you are creating your own definition of a life without the presence of God, not one that I have given you.

Actually, the "eternal pain and suffering" is the definition proposed by practically every preacher out there. Is hell, by your definition, just hanging out in the afterlife, doing the same thing you were doing in life, but without God's presense?

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God never turns away from suffering, he offers comfort to those who pray to him and eternal salvation to those who wish it.

What is the "eternal salvation" specifically? And what kind of comfort is he really able to give other than make you think "it'll be OK?" I can think that without his help, so I'm wondering. Whether he offered comfort or not (I never really felt it), he never actually offered any solutions.

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A girl who I thought was a friend took advantage of me and deceived me into doing something I knew later I didn't truly want to do.  I didn't quite realize it at the time, I hope someday you come back into the light as well.

Ah, so someone else got a crush on you, you felt in your heart that it was OK, then your parents and church freaked out and told you that despite what you may have felt, it wasn't OK, and god hates that love, and now you got all freaked out about it and believed them too? Or was it just a girl who got a crush on you whom you never actually had feelings for, and her advances freaked you out to begin with? (You know, it's REALLY easy to pray to god to make the gay go away, succeed at it, and then fel righteous about it, when you weren't actually gay to begin with). Also, god said just as much about homosexuality as he did about interracial mariage (I.e. almost nothing). Your parents and your church are not... lying... to you, but what they claim regarding god and bible's claims on homosexuality is untrue. They just don't know it, because, like you, they have also been taught these lies. Think about this, if your "friend" got you to do that something, and in your heart you felt it was OK, and there were no parents or church to tell you otherwise, you likely would have continued to doing that with her, right? Now, why would god make you think that was OK, and not automatically make people know it was wrong, like how we know nasty smells or obnoxious noises are wrong? Why does it take another person or a church to teach us about something that is SO morally WRONG and sinfull? Wouldn't god have known that there would be millions of people who don't have the luxury of the church around who may accidentally fall victim to thinking this great sin is OK?Why didn't he make us know, in our hearts, that it is wrong?


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My prayers already were, at some point though you need to take responsibility for your own actions.  God doesn't always send a lightning bolt to save you, you have to trust in his love and guidance to show you the way.

So, were your prayers actually answered, or, did you just realize you have to take matters into your own hands to get things fixed? I don't really need to pray to work on making things better in my life. I also believe that the thoughts and ideas that I get about how to fix the things are my own, not god's. And, as I said, why is me praying for someone else never actually helped those others? Why are millions of prayers to stop homosexuality not slowing down the legalization of gay rights around the world? Why do gay people who pray for god to "fix" them never have those feelings taken away, and get exposed as still being gay? (Exodus International, a pray the gay away group, keeps having issues with their representatives being busted for doing gay things)

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If you are not having homosexual sexual relations or giving in to your anthropomorphic pseudo-bestiality urges, you are simply expressing the love we should have for every fellow person, but I don't believe that is the case.  Is it?

If you are loving everyone equality, then that love is meaningless, just as if everyone had $1,000,000, it would not make everyone rich. It's not love, it's at most just caring about people, and at least just a delusion you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. Have you, or have you not, been IN love before? Yes, I cared about others, and I loved my parents, but I was in love with only one person. The sexual relations are not important. I am able to express that love with gifts, flowers, emotional support, and companionship, and sexual relations are simply another way of expressing that love. For the two years that I was in love with that boy, we have not had any sexual relations, but it was a connection stronger and more compassionate than any other general "love" I experienced. Our love felt quite pure and innocent based on what the bible said. No different than the love between David and Jonathan, really. Yet, my bf's parents, and the whole world it seemed, condemned our love as something sick and terible (my parents didn't know). I guess I loved strongly enough to chose my love for that boy over the whims of the rest of the world, or even god himself. It felt stupid that god would punish or abandon me for chosing love. Do you believe that to be "in love" with someone means "to give yourself up sexually to them?" I hope not, because otherwise your relationships will be very painful.
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September 18, 2011, 06:14:40 PM
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So a guy who thinks he's a pony, and a guy who thinks he's a cat, are trying to cheer up/bash a guy who thinks hes a fox.

With me so far?

Okay, but the guy who thinks he's a pony also believes in a god.  The guy who thinks he's a cat finds that absurd.  They've forgotton about the guy who thinks he's a fox.

So then the guy who thinks he's a cat starts bashing the establishment of the god in whom the guy who thinks he's a pony believes.  The guy who thinks hes a pony doesn't take kindly to the guy who thinks he's a cat poking fun at his beliefs.

The fox eats popcorn.

It's a girl who likes ponies and pony art, and a guy who likes similar style anthropomorphic cat/animal art. I wasn't really trying to cheer up anyone Tongue
They girl who likes ponies is very religious, and apparently had her parents and church FREAK THE HELL OUT when a female friend of hers turned out to like like her, and sent her to a pray-the-gay-away camp. Now the pony girl is all "gay is bad, mkay? God says so." And the guy who likes cat art is gay and dealt with religion A LOT, and is like, "it's not bad, the people who say that are awefull, and god is not quite right, either"

And everyone else eats popcorn Cheesy
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September 18, 2011, 06:36:26 PM
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So a guy who thinks he's a pony, and a guy who thinks he's a cat, are trying to cheer up/bash a guy who thinks hes a fox.

With me so far?

Okay, but the guy who thinks he's a pony also believes in a god.  The guy who thinks he's a cat finds that absurd.  They've forgotton about the guy who thinks he's a fox.

So then the guy who thinks he's a cat starts bashing the establishment of the god in whom the guy who thinks he's a pony believes.  The guy who thinks hes a pony doesn't take kindly to the guy who thinks he's a cat poking fun at his beliefs.

The fox eats popcorn.

It's a girl who likes ponies and pony art, and a guy who likes similar style anthropomorphic cat/animal art. I wasn't really trying to cheer up anyone Tongue
They girl who likes ponies is very religious, and apparently had her parents and church FREAK THE HELL OUT when a female friend of hers turned out to like like her, and sent her to a pray-the-gay-away camp. Now the pony girl is all "gay is bad, mkay? God says so." And the guy who likes cat art is gay and dealt with religion A LOT, and is like, "it's not bad, the people who say that are awefull, and god is not quite right, either"

And everyone else eats popcorn Cheesy

Lemme tell you something about Harry Potter...; Warlocks are the enemies of God!
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September 18, 2011, 06:52:25 PM
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Aren't we a little off-topic in this off-topic thread?   Wink

I have faith in our digital currency, I just hope others would hold onto theirs as well instead of panic selling.

BUY BUY BUY! Grin

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September 18, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
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Aren't we a little off-topic in this off-topic thread?   Wink

I have faith in our digital currency, I just hope others would hold onto theirs as well instead of panic selling.

BUY BUY BUY! Grin

I KNOW!!

Holy crap, market pushs up to 5.10, and the lemmings drive it back down to 4.90.

Oh well, up is up i guess.  I'm just thankful for the volume - at least it's moving.

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September 18, 2011, 07:08:45 PM
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Aren't we a little off-topic in this off-topic thread?   Wink

I have faith in our digital currency, I just hope others would hold onto theirs as well instead of panic selling.

BUY BUY BUY! Grin

I KNOW!!

Holy crap, market pushs up to 5.10, and the lemmings drive it back down to 4.90.

Oh well, up is up i guess.  I'm just thankful for the volume - at least it's moving.

I'll be buying about $3k worth in the next week or two.
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September 18, 2011, 09:13:56 PM
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Yes, I just panic bought.

You know, I tell people to get into Bitcoin not for the its amazing world changing potential, but to get in just to experience this market.
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September 18, 2011, 11:55:43 PM
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You know, I tell people to get into Bitcoin not for the its amazing world changing potential, but to get in just to experience this market.
Next time just suggest that they set a few dollars on fire every day or two.  That will save them from wasting any extra time and give them the same experience.
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September 19, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
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You know, I tell people to get into Bitcoin not for the its amazing world changing potential, but to get in just to experience this market.
Next time just suggest that they set a few dollars on fire every day or two.  That will save them from wasting any extra time and give them the same experience.


Oh, no no no! They should bury them in a landfill. We're all about sequestering carbon now.  Grin
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September 19, 2011, 02:22:38 AM
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You know, I tell people to get into Bitcoin not for the its amazing world changing potential, but to get in just to experience this market.
Next time just suggest that they set a few dollars on fire every day or two.  That will save them from wasting any extra time and give them the same experience.

Even losing money often involves learning something. You don't learn anything from setting bills on fire other than that paper bills are flamable. Here, you at least learn how financial systems work, how things are valued, why the value drops, and how to avoid that in the future. Even if costly, it's still a very valuable lesson about something vast majority of people don't know about.
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September 19, 2011, 02:56:36 AM
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You know, I tell people to get into Bitcoin not for the its amazing world changing potential, but to get in just to experience this market.
Next time just suggest that they set a few dollars on fire every day or two.  That will save them from wasting any extra time and give them the same experience.

Even losing money often involves learning something. You don't learn anything from setting bills on fire other than that paper bills are flamable. Here, you at least learn how financial systems work, how things are valued, why the value drops, and how to avoid that in the future. Even if costly, it's still a very valuable lesson about something vast majority of people don't know about.

Bitcoin is to a real market as my cock is to the empire state building. I was hanging out with some chick today that works as a trader. I asked her what her biggest single fuckup cost her clients. She's made mistakes worth all of bitcoin right now, and she still has a fucking job. This shit ain't shit, holmes.
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September 19, 2011, 03:11:13 AM
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Even losing money often involves learning something. You don't learn anything from setting bills on fire other than that paper bills are flamable. Here, you at least learn how financial systems work, how things are valued, why the value drops, and how to avoid that in the future. Even if costly, it's still a very valuable lesson about something vast majority of people don't know about.

The only things his friend is learning after being convinced to invest in bitcoins are:
1) My friend is an idiot
2) Bitcoins are a bad investment
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Even losing money often involves learning something. You don't learn anything from setting bills on fire other than that paper bills are flamable. Here, you at least learn how financial systems work, how things are valued, why the value drops, and how to avoid that in the future. Even if costly, it's still a very valuable lesson about something vast majority of people don't know about.

The only things his friend is learning after being convinced to invest in bitcoins are:
1) My friend is an idiot
2) Bitcoins are a bad investment

Dude, what are you talking about? $5 Rally!!! Make 1000 threads!!!!!!!!!!!!
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September 19, 2011, 05:56:07 AM
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Even losing money often involves learning something. You don't learn anything from setting bills on fire other than that paper bills are flamable. Here, you at least learn how financial systems work, how things are valued, why the value drops, and how to avoid that in the future. Even if costly, it's still a very valuable lesson about something vast majority of people don't know about.

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September 19, 2011, 07:39:18 AM
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Rassah please explain your coffee table before making any more posts on this forum, tia.
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September 19, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
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So a guy who thinks he's a pony, and a guy who thinks he's a cat, are trying to cheer up/bash a guy who thinks hes a fox.

With me so far?

Okay, but the guy who thinks he's a pony also believes in a god.  The guy who thinks he's a cat finds that absurd.  They've forgotton about the guy who thinks he's a fox.

So then the guy who thinks he's a cat starts bashing the establishment of the god in whom the guy who thinks he's a pony believes.  The guy who thinks hes a pony doesn't take kindly to the guy who thinks he's a cat poking fun at his beliefs.

The fox eats popcorn.

To put the proverbial icing on the cake, this was all started by a bear (Bruno means bear in some territories). Note the slight change in the threads title.

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September 19, 2011, 05:00:41 PM
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Rassah please explain your coffee table before making any more posts on this forum, tia.

The, um, huh? If you're asking what I think you're asking about, my hubby got an old wooden table, sanded it, painted the legs with faux cement paint, and covered the top with black tile and a glass pane. He needed a picture to go under the glass. At one of the conventions I attended, a rather well known artist was auctioning a very nice digital painting of one of my favorite characters, Chester, a ringtail from Havoc Inc comics (The comic is not actually adult themed). The drawing also happened to be tall and narrow, just like the shape of the table, and seemed like it would fit perfectly. That piece obviously ended up going to voice auction, where, as usual, the artist said that if it goes over $350, he will include the original Photoshop files, which I would need to blow it up (the printed and framed piece being sold was much smaller than the table). Sadly, or luckily, my highest bid of $1,200 was outbid by $1,250, and I didn't want to go higher. After the auction, I talked to the winner, and, with the artist's permission, he agreed to sell me a blown up, 4.5' x 1.5' print for $300 (the printing on a specialized plotter was over $100 by itself). So, now I have a shiny black tiled coffee table with a picture of Chester holding a coffee cup and wearing nothing but an unbuttoned white men's shirt (benefit of having your own house is you can have "tasteful" porn hanging out in the open). I think the title of the piece was Morning Chester (like morning coffee, and/or morning wood). When we have company, we usually cover it up with strategically placed TV remote and round coaster, though a while ago we draped a vinyl cover over the whole thing to keep it from getting messy, and I totally forgot about the pic (it's been many many months). So, thanks for reminding me. I'll have to clean the table off and remove the cover tonight.
And yes, I do realize that this blows my anonymity out of the water, but considering I've been using the same online nick/persona since 1993, I guess I wasn't too concerned about it.

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September 19, 2011, 05:11:13 PM
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LOL! Thanks, that made my day  Grin
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LOL! Thanks, that made my day  Grin

This was the image I was going to post, but felt the coffee cup was a better choice.

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September 19, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
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To put the proverbial icing on the cake, this was all started by a bear (Bruno means bear in some territories). Note the slight change in the threads title.


Nice on the "fat cat" connotation, heh.
Yeah, I think one of the unlisted"rules of the internet" is "If it's on the internet, furries will overrun it." This goes for MUCK/MUDs, IRC, Facebook/Twitter, SecondLife and all similar worlds, 4chan, SomethingAwful (a lot of furs in there, and rumor is it was started by one), and it seems even Bitcoin. Cant's say I'm too thrilled about that though Tongue
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