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October 10, 2024, 06:36:58 AM
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There are other speculations on what his role will be, but what we know for sure is he will be away from the spotlight, the dugout, stressful press conferences and the media backlash. It is down in the middle between full management and staying idle, which I think may drive these guys crazy.

He didn't want to be on the sidelines anymore based in his statements, he wasn't to be more incharge but I still think he'll return back to coaching when he starts to miss it, maybe for the German national team if Julian Nagelsmann was to exit after his contract expires.

This new job mightn't be as stressed free as we think because although he'll be out of the spotlight but he'll still have alot of work to do overseeing over 4 clubs.

It was too stressful to manage Liverpool but he is now taking on a role for four clubs?

He doesn't want to admit it that the real stress was having to come short to Pep, I don't know if it's just me but I think Klopp could have done more for Liverpool, yeah he got you guys 1 premier league and champions league but you guys could have won more in this areas, the potential was there but out of no where, everything died off.

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October 10, 2024, 08:22:19 AM
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Yeah I have to admit, Klopp taking on that role has disappointed me. I mean he left Liverpool for that crap, really?

It was too stressful to manage Liverpool but he is now taking on a role for four clubs?

TBH, it sounds like an interesting role. It does not take 12h daily like PL club management, it is different and offers a new challenge.

I'm happy for him, I think football in general needs guys like him - anywhere where they want to be. He gave us his all, he made us great again and no matter that I selfishly wanted him to remain there for a long time, it was simply not feasible.

As you can see, Ward and Edwards are back, there were obviously some difficulties there with Klopp that were hidden from the public - I think that Klopp grew tired of the expectations that were put in front of him. He endured 10 years of it - which is more than anybody could have hoped for when we signed him.

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October 10, 2024, 01:46:24 PM
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He didn't want to be on the sidelines anymore based in his statements, he wasn't to be more incharge but I still think he'll return back to coaching when he starts to miss it, maybe for the German national team if Julian Nagelsmann was to exit after his contract expires.

Return to management at 57? Probably 60 years after leaving Redbull, when he could just sit in VIP and eat burgers without worrying about training, travelling around the continent scouting potential, and bringing home huge checks to his wife. Internal position is really good for someone of his age; perhaps he might return to Liverpool as something different but not as a coach.

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The squad was long gone, everyone was getting old and moving abroad with no good replacements, there was nothing left to fight for, and the league would always come down to Arsenal and Citeh. On a serious note.

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October 10, 2024, 04:30:02 PM
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He didn't want to be on the sidelines anymore based in his statements, he wasn't to be more incharge but I still think he'll return back to coaching when he starts to miss it, maybe for the German national team if Julian Nagelsmann was to exit after his contract expires.
I also think he will return to coaching after sometime. I do not think it will be full competitive football, maybe a national team like you hinted to or a club in a not so competitive league which pays him a lot of money.

Return to management at 57? Probably 60 years after leaving Redbull...
60 is not such an old age for managers. Gasperini is still loving it and is well above 60, Mourinho and Ancelotti are above 60 too.

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October 10, 2024, 07:05:03 PM
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Who knows what new role will exactly be for Klopp, we are just speculating at this point. In any case all Red Bull sponsored teams have much lower expectations and pressure associated than top PL club.

I remeber Klopp complaining about english weather several times and that coupled with pressure was probably enough for him to say good buy to UK part of his life.

Klopp will be advising/supporting sports directors on player transfers, serving as a coach advisor, and scouting talent across Red Bull's network, which will require a lot of travel. It will be a very difficult job for someone who earlier stated that he was tired of managing one club and will now be managing 4. Cheesy

He gave his all for Liverpool, and there was nothing else he could have done if he had stayed. I doubt nobody would ever turn down a Red Bull offer.
How ridiculous... Tired of 1 club but now excited about 4 clubs, Klopp is a genius. Grin

Maybe he thinks it's harder to manage an English Club than 4 clubs from different leagues. Cheesy

However, Klopp's appreciation for Liverpool should be appreciated with the many titles he has won.

The news is Klopp will give advice on transfers to the club he leads?
There are other speculations on what his role will be, but what we know for sure is he will be away from the spotlight, the dugout, stressful press conferences and the media backlash. It is down in the middle between full management and staying idle, which I think may drive these guys crazy.
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With his current position he will be behind the scenes and away from the media.
Maybe this job is quite easy according to him.

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October 10, 2024, 07:19:18 PM
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I’m missing the PL & CL games. These international breaks suck, it’s hard to believe there are three international breaks before the end of November. The season starts in mid August and we have three fortnight breaks within a few months, what a load of crap.

Can’t wait for this nonsense to be over so we can get back to business.

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October 10, 2024, 09:37:51 PM
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With his current position he will be behind the scenes and away from the media.
Maybe this job is quite easy according to him.
He never did say it was easy, I was only suggesting that not being on the spot and having to deal with the media pressure and front page headlines will be a welcome changes after years of competing fr titles across different countries in Europe.

I’m missing the PL & CL games. These international breaks suck, it’s hard to believe there are three international breaks before the end of November.
I just act like it is a break and do not pay much attention to it except to check if any players picked up injuries while on national duty.

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October 10, 2024, 10:40:23 PM
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I’m missing the PL & CL games. These international breaks suck, it’s hard to believe there are three international breaks before the end of November. The season starts in mid August and we have three fortnight breaks within a few months, what a load of crap.
They suck very much and Nations League are worst of them.
Normal qualifications for EURO or World Cup are way better competition.
I was just reading in news that Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson is out for six weeks because of hamstring injury.
Maybe Giorgi Mamardashvili is coming from Valencia on loan, but this is a big blow for Liverpool.

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October 11, 2024, 09:13:01 AM
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Return to management at 57? Probably 60 years after leaving Redbull, when he could just sit in VIP and eat burgers without worrying about training, travelling around the continent scouting potential, and bringing home huge checks to his wife. Internal position is really good for someone of his age; perhaps he might return to Liverpool as something different but not as a coach.

Not Liverpool, the rumours are pointing towards Germany national team which we can't rule out the possibility because the national team won't be as stressful as club football and they don't play every weekend so he's still be having time on his hand to eat the burgers as you said lol. Klopp has a good reputation in Germany but Redbull don't so I don't see this partnership lasting that long as klopp can't change the fans mind about Redbull.

Nagelsmann wants club football and will likely leave after the world cup so there's going to be an open slot to fill and it'll fit Klopp so well or do you think he'll reject the privilege of managing his nation?

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October 11, 2024, 06:11:38 PM
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They suck very much and Nations League are worst of them.
Normal qualifications for EURO or World Cup are way better competition.
I was just reading in news that Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson is out for six weeks because of hamstring injury.
Maybe Giorgi Mamardashvili is coming from Valencia on loan, but this is a big blow for Liverpool.

Yeah six weeks sucks, two of them are this international break though so maybe that’s one positive Cheesy

These are the games he will miss -

Chelsea (H) – Premier League – Oct 20
RB Leipzig (A) – Champions League – Oct 23
Arsenal (A) – Premier League – Oct 27
Brighton (A) – Carabao Cup – Oct 30
Brighton (H) – Premier League – Nov 2
Bayer Leverkusen (H) – Champions League – Nov 5
Aston Villa (H) – Premier League – Nov 9
https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/09/games-alisson-will-miss-liverpool-including-matches-vs-arsenal-chelsea-21761866/amp/

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October 11, 2024, 07:41:55 PM
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Not Liverpool, the rumours are pointing towards Germany national team which we can't rule out the possibility because the national team won't be as stressful as club football and they don't play every weekend so he's still be having time on his hand to eat the burgers as you said lol. Klopp has a good reputation in Germany but Redbull don't so I don't see this partnership lasting that long as klopp can't change the fans mind about Redbull.

Nagelsmann wants club football and will likely leave after the world cup so there's going to be an open slot to fill and it'll fit Klopp so well or do you think he'll reject the privilege of managing his nation?

Unfortunately, both scenarios are unlikely to happen given that Klopp's 5-year contract with Redbull does not include an exit clause, and Nagelsmann will remain out of club football and focus on the national team until after the 2026 World Cup. I am not ruling out the possibility of Nelgelsmnan getting sacked before the World Cup or abandoning the national team for club football, but I highly doubt it.

Yeah six weeks sucks, two of them are this international break though so maybe that’s one positive Cheesy

He missed 19 games last season due to injury - the end of Allison is near, it was beautiful while it last. His injury records isn't looking good.

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October 11, 2024, 09:19:27 PM
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Yeah six weeks sucks, two of them are this international break though so maybe that’s one positive Cheesy
But what do you think who is going to replace him and be on goal for Liverpool if they dont bring Mamardashvili from Valencia?
Vitezslav Jaros or Caoimhin Kelleher?
Kelleher is playing for Ireland national team and Jaros was on loan before.

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October 12, 2024, 07:13:00 AM
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Yeah six weeks sucks, two of them are this international break though so maybe that’s one positive Cheesy
But what do you think who is going to replace him and be on goal for Liverpool if they dont bring Mamardashvili from Valencia?
Vitezslav Jaros or Caoimhin Kelleher?
Kelleher is playing for Ireland national team and Jaros was on loan before.


It will be Kelleher I think. He has stood in for Alisson before and done pretty well.

Don’t quote me on it but I think there is an agreement with Valencia for Mamardashvili to stay with them for the whole season. I don’t think we have an option to recall him.

He missed 19 games last season due to injury - the end of Allison is near, it was beautiful while it last. His injury records isn't looking good.

I actually agree and think it’s why we made the Mamardashvili deal. Being injury prone as a goalkeeper is ridiculous.

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A boring weekend. No football. These break sucks.

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A boring weekend. No football. These break sucks.
The disruption also makes it difficult to predict the form teams will return to league football with. Those who were in poor form are grateful for the break cause they get to reset, but those who were in flying form now have to somehow find that form back. I remember when Arsenal lost a game just before international break around this point last season and that made the entire 2 weeks wait dreadful, cause that loss hangs over the team for much longer.

Only good thing is it gives more time for already injured players to achieve match fitness.

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October 12, 2024, 03:38:51 PM
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A boring weekend. No football. These break sucks.
The disruption also makes it difficult to predict the form teams will return to league football with. Those who were in poor form are grateful for the break cause they get to reset, but those who were in flying form now have to somehow find that form back. I remember when Arsenal lost a game just before international break around this point last season and that made the entire 2 weeks wait dreadful, cause that loss hangs over the team for much longer.

Only good thing is it gives more time for already injured players to achieve match fitness.

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And perfectly healthy players to get injured. Just look what happened to Saka and Havertz. Don't know the details but if Arsenal lost both in addition to loosing Odegaard earlier it will be a big blow for their title hopes.

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October 12, 2024, 04:43:36 PM
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And perfectly healthy players to get injured. Just look what happened to Saka and Havertz. Don't know the details but if Arsenal lost both in addition to loosing Odegaard earlier it will be a big blow for their title hopes.

Could be another Arteta masterclass to draw both of his best players from international break as fast as possible to rest them for premier League games, he can't afford to lose Trossard, Ode, Saka and Kai at the same time.

Halaand, Saka both faked international break injury last season so I won't be surprised if this is another fake injury thing.

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October 12, 2024, 05:00:42 PM
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And perfectly healthy players to get injured. Just look what happened to Saka and Havertz. Don't know the details but if Arsenal lost both in addition to loosing Odegaard earlier it will be a big blow for their title hopes.
It will suck if both are not fit for the trip to Bournemouth next weekend, another reason why more international breaks are not healthy, Ødegaard's injury was also sustained while on international assignment, but he should be match ready sooner rather than later.

Could be another Arteta masterclass...
Did you mean more dark arts from Arteta?

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October 12, 2024, 05:45:40 PM
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but those who were in flying form now have to somehow find that form back.
Liverpool always lose their form after the breaks. It happened many times with us. The next match is against Chelsea and in Anfield. A draw or even losing all three points would not surprise me.

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Could be another Arteta masterclass...
Did you mean more dark arts from Arteta?

True, but I didn't want to use those words because whomever is in charge of Arsenal's set piece training should be sent to jail before every GK in the league suffers shoulder and hip injuries from Ben White, Gabriel, and Saliba pressing. Arteta is just too cool for such dark art. There's is Micheal Scofield somewhere running the show.

Those fake injuries are part of the dark art I'm sure of it..

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