[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

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People find payouts better/comparable to TradeMyBit?

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[qbitx]

I run on Wafflepool w/ xintensity 768; I get approx 1% reject rate.
I run on CoinMine.pw w/ xintensity 768; I get approx 0.1% reject rate.

I read on the Clevermining site that they've 'fixed' the reject rate issues so I come back to run a test...
I'm running w/ xintensity 320; I get approx 10% reject rate!  They aren't even stales either, it's just this bullshit:

https://i.imgur.com/0Sletlr.png

Why don't you guys just like... Use better stratum software?  I mean it must exist... Just look at the other pools.
Numbers don't lie.

[Jynger]

reading this thread seems there are two type of miners:
Type-1 is interested of low rejection rates and Type-2 is interested in profit.
Personaly I would not mind higher rejection rate if I still geting better payout for the same amount of spent time with the same rig.

[zneww]

I run on Wafflepool w/ xintensity 768; I get approx 1% reject rate.
I run on CoinMine.pw w/ xintensity 768; I get approx 0.1% reject rate.

I read on the Clevermining site that they've 'fixed' the reject rate issues so I come back to run a test...
I'm running w/ xintensity 320; I get approx 10% reject rate!  They aren't even stales either, it's just this bullshit:



Why don't you guys just like... Use better stratum software?  I mean it must exist... Just look at the other pools.
Numbers don't lie.

[CoinBuzz]

reading this thread seems there are two type of miners:
Type-1 is interested of low rejection rates and Type-2 is interested in profit.
Personaly I would not mind higher rejection rate if I still geting better payout for the same amount of spent time with the same rig.

What if you can turn those rejected shares to accepted and increase your profit ??

you know that BTC/mhash is for accepted Mhash not total Mhash

[element515]

I run on Wafflepool w/ xintensity 768; I get approx 1% reject rate.
I run on CoinMine.pw w/ xintensity 768; I get approx 0.1% reject rate.

I read on the Clevermining site that they've 'fixed' the reject rate issues so I come back to run a test...
I'm running w/ xintensity 320; I get approx 10% reject rate!  They aren't even stales either, it's just this bullshit:

https://i.imgur.com/0Sletlr.png

Why don't you guys just like... Use better stratum software?  I mean it must exist... Just look at the other pools.
Numbers don't lie.

10% is not bad at all. This pool mines coins with a very short block time. It ends up getting more rejects naturally. If you're going to be an idiot and blame people, just head back to another pool. Multiple times in the last few pages have people answered kindly to question about rejects.

[Jynger]

yes, I know that BTC/mhash is for accepted Mhash not total Mhash, thats why hinted on mining with same rig on different pools
as for high duplicate shares reject rate, this usually is client side issue with multiple gpu's running in same cgminer instance (and something broke there).
Another explainantion would be really badly broken stratum, but as it seems most the other users do not have this issue I think its client on side.
cgminer debug log could show more...

[qbitx]

yes, I know that BTC/mhash is for accepted Mhash not total Mhash, thats why hinted on mining with same rig on different pools
as for high duplicate shares reject rate, this usually is client side issue with multiple gpu's running in same cgminer instance (and something broke there).
Another explainantion would be really badly broken stratum, but as it seems most the other users do not have this issue I think its client on side.
cgminer debug log could show more...

The guy above quoted and said my 10% reject rate was 'not bad at all'...
That seems to indicate to me that other people are having this issue - seeing that 10% is considered decent
I will check the cgminer logs for anything out of the ordinary.  I believe this to be a server-side issue though, however, considering that this is literally the only pool that I have this issue on (and I've gone through at least 30+ pools in my time mining)...

[jedimstr]

yes, I know that BTC/mhash is for accepted Mhash not total Mhash, thats why hinted on mining with same rig on different pools
as for high duplicate shares reject rate, this usually is client side issue with multiple gpu's running in same cgminer instance (and something broke there).
Another explainantion would be really badly broken stratum, but as it seems most the other users do not have this issue I think its client on side.
cgminer debug log could show more...

The guy above quoted and said my 10% reject rate was 'not bad at all'...
That seems to indicate to me that other people are having this issue - seeing that 10% is considered decent
I will check the cgminer logs for anything out of the ordinary.  I believe this to be a server-side issue though, however, considering that this is literally the only pool that I have this issue on (and I've gone through at least 30+ pools in my time mining)...

There have been countless posts on this subject, try reading my post on this vey page about it.

Clevermining is mining some fast coins (low block time) that any pool that mines them would have 5%-10% reject rates.  This is accounted for in the profit algorithm.  Other pools don't mine these coins because they don't want the reject rates associated with them even if they are more profitable regardless.  

So you're comparing apples to oranges here.  

[Dishes]

Profit trumps all.

[Terk]

I'm sorry for highly increased rejects in the last hour. There were some problems with one of coin wallets which my automated health checks didn't detect. It's fixed now and rejects are back to pool's normal. I also want you to know that I will be working next week on improving this our “normal” and to make it lower - I still see some areas to improve (besides launching regional servers which are finally coming tomorrow).

Also: please be patient if you PMed me and didn't receive reply. I have some backlog here. I will read again all messages and reply to all which requires reply within couple days.

[hammurabi]

In multiple workers scenario should all workers use the very same login?

[inedenimadam]

In multiple workers scenario should all workers use the very same login?

there is not a "login", as you dont register.  You put your btc address as your username, and whatever as your password in all the workers.  Unless you want to monitor workers individually, at which point you would need multiple pay addresses for each worker in the usermane.

[hammurabi]

In multiple workers scenario should all workers use the very same login?

there is not a "login", as you dont register.  You put your btc address as your username, and whatever as your password in all the workers.  Unless you want to monitor workers individually, at which point you would need multiple pay addresses for each worker in the usermane.

Thanks for a reply.
But what I was wondering is how the pool calculates pool difficulty for a particular worker.
Which will be more optimal and preferable from server side, having all rigs under one login or split them individually.

[Starscream]

Thanks for a reply.
But what I was wondering is how the pool calculates pool difficulty for a particular worker.
Which will be more optimal and preferable from server side, having all rigs under one login or split them individually.

VARDIFF makes no difference to your profits. Small rig or large rig. Doesn't matter. It's been explained on this forum and every other pool forum. You can read up on it.

It doesn't matter, AS LONG AS THE REJECTS ARE CLOSE TO ZERO.

No. It doesn't matter. Ever. Period.

+1

[hammurabi]

Thanks for a reply.
But what I was wondering is how the pool calculates pool difficulty for a particular worker.
Which will be more optimal and preferable from server side, having all rigs under one login or split them individually.

VARDIFF makes no difference to your profits. Small rig or large rig. Doesn't matter. It's been explained on this forum and every other pool forum. You can read up on it.

It doesn't matter, AS LONG AS THE REJECTS ARE CLOSE TO ZERO.

No. It doesn't matter. Ever. Period.

+1

I think it does. Otherwise tuning vardiff would not exist.
On wemineltc I am receiving various difficulties ranging from 64 to 600 depending on the particular rig's hashing power.
Taking into account that there is only one server in US and reject ratio is high due to latency I suspect that that it matters even more.
Currently i see across all rigs that difficulty is set to 512. Might be hard coded value.

Since clevermining is still in development I wonder what is Terk's opinion.

Should we use separate btc addresses for each mining rig?!
Is he working on sub-workers. Like for example "btcaddress_worker1"?!
Or should we just use one address for all of them?!

What is Terk's preference on this?

[BitCoinPokerBro]

After receiving a payout on the 27th I left to mine some new alt for a few days.

Upon returning here at my stats

Immature   0.00007900 BTC
Unexchanged   0.00053781 BTC
Ready For Payout   0.00124554 BTC
Total Expected   0.00186235 BTC

Why do I still have immature and unexchanged funds?

After 48+ hours shouldn't everything be matured/exchanged and moved into ready for payout?

[zneww]

After receiving a payout on the 27th I left to mine some new alt for a few days.

Upon returning here at my stats

Immature   0.00007900 BTC
Unexchanged   0.00053781 BTC
Ready For Payout   0.00124554 BTC
Total Expected   0.00186235 BTC

Why do I still have immature and unexchanged funds?

After 48+ hours shouldn't everything be matured/exchanged and moved into ready for payout?

I stopped mining on like the 25th and I've still got shit in my balance.

[Sovietaced]

After receiving a payout on the 27th I left to mine some new alt for a few days.

Upon returning here at my stats

Immature   0.00007900 BTC
Unexchanged   0.00053781 BTC
Ready For Payout   0.00124554 BTC
Total Expected   0.00186235 BTC

Why do I still have immature and unexchanged funds?

After 48+ hours shouldn't everything be matured/exchanged and moved into ready for payout?

Thats what happens when a pool mines shit coins.

[zneww]

haha...yeah