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A) It does not matter what Ken's original intent was. The fact is, he began lying at some point and made decisions that have caused investors to lose money. B) There is no need to prove it was a scam. There only is need to get Ken to pay out the dividends he promised and be honest now. What is important now is for everyone to share what information they have with the Missouri investigators, and to do what we can to publicize Ken Slaughter's reputation so that he is unable to ever start up any other technology business. It would be interesting to find out where he does currently work. So how can you prove that it was a scam, and not just a failed business? He is right that the difficulty shot up higher than anyone expected.
Why would he be currently working somehwere? People gave him a boatload of bitcoins, and he did absolutely nothing with them.
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June 18, 2014, 12:39:23 AM |
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A) It does not matter what Ken's original intent was. The fact is, he began lying at some point and made decisions that have caused investors to lose money. B) There is no need to prove it was a scam. There only is need to get Ken to pay out the dividends he promised and be honest now. What is important now is for everyone to share what information they have with the Missouri investigators, and to do what we can to publicize Ken Slaughter's reputation so that he is unable to ever start up any other technology business. It would be interesting to find out where he does currently work. So how can you prove that it was a scam, and not just a failed business? He is right that the difficulty shot up higher than anyone expected.
Why would he be currently working somehwere? People gave him a boatload of bitcoins, and he did absolutely nothing with them. Ken pissed all the bitcoins away.
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June 18, 2014, 12:40:18 AM |
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Many things point to this being a scam:
The easic custom chip based products which will never be built still on the web site and still for sale 6 months after the easic deal was cancelled. Multiple checks posted out with no signature. Refunds delayed for 4months. Promised divs not paid. No accounts released. Prospector cards priced not to sell. Gold cards not promoted or posted out in time. All real work towards custom chips cancelled after millions in pre-order money taken. Kens 15 year history of liquidating companies and lieing to customers. Data Centre seems an after-thought, no attempt at expansion. No promises or plans about company progress ever met.
It all points to the CEO running a shell of a company, spending 25% of the raised funds to look legit then running off with the remaining 75% after the business 'fails'.
THIS. 100TH farm is a drop in the pot - You could create one with under $120,000 in startup money
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June 18, 2014, 12:48:55 AM |
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We can complain on here all we want, but that will change nothing.
The only actions which make sense are to share all your information regarding your interactions with Ken Slaughter with the Missouri investigators, the address and email and phone number of whom has been shared here multiple times.
Also, it make sense to contact both Woodlaw and Ken's lawyer and express your opinion.
Mine is that Ken Slaughter be forced to liquidate all his personal assets and all of the assets of ActM and distribute them to all the shareholders except for his family members.
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Phildo
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June 18, 2014, 01:24:18 AM |
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A) It does not matter what Ken's original intent was. The fact is, he began lying at some point and made decisions that have caused investors to lose money. B) There is no need to prove it was a scam. There only is need to get Ken to pay out the dividends he promised and be honest now. What is important now is for everyone to share what information they have with the Missouri investigators, and to do what we can to publicize Ken Slaughter's reputation so that he is unable to ever start up any other technology business. It would be interesting to find out where he does currently work. So how can you prove that it was a scam, and not just a failed business? He is right that the difficulty shot up higher than anyone expected.
Why would he be currently working somehwere? People gave him a boatload of bitcoins, and he did absolutely nothing with them. Ken pissed all the bitcoins away. According to some back of the napkin math done on here. How much of that was "pissed away" in salary to him and his family? How much of it was pissed away to companies that were never going to produce anything and gave him kickbacks? we have no clue because we have literally no information, but it's a little naive to think a guy with a history of failed businesses would let this one crash and burn wihtout putting something away for himself. And that doesn't even mention all the hardware people have bought for him.
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June 18, 2014, 02:23:00 AM |
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A) It does not matter what Ken's original intent was. The fact is, he began lying at some point and made decisions that have caused investors to lose money. B) There is no need to prove it was a scam. There only is need to get Ken to pay out the dividends he promised and be honest now. What is important now is for everyone to share what information they have with the Missouri investigators, and to do what we can to publicize Ken Slaughter's reputation so that he is unable to ever start up any other technology business. It would be interesting to find out where he does currently work. So how can you prove that it was a scam, and not just a failed business? He is right that the difficulty shot up higher than anyone expected.
Why would he be currently working somehwere? People gave him a boatload of bitcoins, and he did absolutely nothing with them. Ken pissed all the bitcoins away. According to some back of the napkin math done on here. How much of that was "pissed away" in salary to him and his family? How much of it was pissed away to companies that were never going to produce anything and gave him kickbacks? we have no clue because we have literally no information, but it's a little naive to think a guy with a history of failed businesses would let this one crash and burn wihtout putting something away for himself. And that doesn't even mention all the hardware people have bought for him. it looks like Ken Slaughter is a natural born thief / con artists. IMO , he is even smarter than Labcoin scammer, instead of disappearing with the money, the easier way out is to make it look like a legit failure ( aka measly failed mini-farm attempt) and none of his fault and then use our money to pay his lawyer to defend himself ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) indeed after 61 years of life, he has mastered the art of conning people on internet. hopefully the MSD investigation and the woodlaw case put an end to his operation. I'm really interested how much he paid to himself and his family during this past year while funnelling the investors money into a black hole . edit: spelling
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June 18, 2014, 05:30:29 AM |
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Isn't it funny just how close to the mark the likes of Crumbs and Panakke were...
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June 18, 2014, 10:58:50 AM |
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I think we should have more of a discussion on a point raised recently.
Why has a lot of the coin from the ACTM address gone to what is apparently a scammers address.
14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW - scam address.
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June 18, 2014, 12:22:04 PM |
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I think we should have more of a discussion on a point raised recently.
Why has a lot of the coin from the ACTM address gone to what is apparently a scammers address.
14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW - scam address.
What ACTM Address?
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JimmyJazz
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June 18, 2014, 12:25:48 PM |
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I think we should have more of a discussion on a point raised recently.
Why has a lot of the coin from the ACTM address gone to what is apparently a scammers address.
14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW - scam address.
What ACTM Address? 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP
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June 18, 2014, 12:55:28 PM |
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I think we should have more of a discussion on a point raised recently.
Why has a lot of the coin from the ACTM address gone to what is apparently a scammers address.
14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW - scam address.
What ACTM Address? 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP Maybe it's just one of those days but I can't find anywhere on 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP where coins were sent to 14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW sorry if it's just my mistake.
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June 18, 2014, 12:59:48 PM |
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I think we should have more of a discussion on a point raised recently.
Why has a lot of the coin from the ACTM address gone to what is apparently a scammers address.
14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW - scam address.
What ACTM Address? 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP Maybe it's just one of those days but I can't find anywhere on 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP where coins were sent to 14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW sorry if it's just my mistake. 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP to 1HtoMBUKzRgS5X9WdnwZiQKQccvWBCPGx and then follow the transaction. (All within a few minutes of each other)
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June 18, 2014, 01:22:24 PM |
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Once again, we can complain all we want about Ken Slaughter, but unless you are calling or emailing the investigator and lawyers and sharing your story, it is all smoke and vapor. Scott Johnson Investigator Missouri Secretary of State, Securities Division 600 W. Main St., Box 1276 Jefferson City, MO 65102 573-751-4704 scott.johnson@sos.mo.govMissouri Securities Contact Information Page Wood Law Info: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation888-237-0999 1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105 1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
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June 18, 2014, 02:06:14 PM Last edit: June 18, 2014, 02:28:59 PM by Bargraphics |
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I think we should have more of a discussion on a point raised recently.
Why has a lot of the coin from the ACTM address gone to what is apparently a scammers address.
14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW - scam address.
What ACTM Address? 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP Maybe it's just one of those days but I can't find anywhere on 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP where coins were sent to 14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW sorry if it's just my mistake. 16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP to 1HtoMBUKzRgS5X9WdnwZiQKQccvWBCPGx and then follow the transaction. (All within a few minutes of each other) My wager on that transfer is it's HashFast's wallet (Based on timing "April 30th") - Valued at $135,000 at time of sending.
24 Hour Sale on our Gold Rush boards $200 off with this voucher K0JLPCYB
Limited to the first 25 boards sold.
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June 18, 2014, 03:33:48 PM |
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That scammer's wallet is like the 12th largest Bitcoin wallet. It is probably Coinbase or some other exchange he used to cash it out for USD.
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1D7JwRnoungL1YQy7sJMsqmA8BHkPcKGDJ We mine as we dream... Alone
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June 18, 2014, 04:06:41 PM |
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That scammer's wallet is like the 12th largest Bitcoin wallet. It is probably Coinbase or some other exchange he used to cash it out for USD.
Ya that also makes sense ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) _______________________________________________________________________ MSD Info:Shawn HagertyInvestigatorMissouri Secretary of State, Securities Division 600 W. Main St., Box 1276 Jefferson City, MO 65102 573-526-3901 573-526-3124 (fax) shawn.hagerty@sos.mo.govScott JohnsonInvestigatorMissouri Secretary of State, Securities Division 600 W. Main St., Box 1276 Jefferson City, MO 65102 573-751-4704 scott.johnson@sos.mo.govMissouri Securities Contact Information PageWood Law Info: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation888-237-0999 1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105 1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
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June 18, 2014, 09:12:15 PM |
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Scams and Ponzi schemes don't get back refunds. Silly goose. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 18, 2014, 09:33:57 PM |
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aaaaaaand there it goes… I would venture to guess that we'll never see that money again. bubye.
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