[ANN] Blacknet BLN | Staking | Future of zApp & ZeFi

[Shizof]

Ignoring idiots is meaningless, because there is always someone answering them by quoting them.

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[rat4]

Call for testing.

Plan: testnet will work on current protocol for 1440 blocks and then switch to new one.

New changes are addressing some criticism of current protocol. And also optimizing CPU usage.

Compiled windows wallet https://mega.co.nz/#!jUIADJJL!xsFr1FlblR6GwcHL_cw35lL0g6uFLUVL0E_vjTaAS50
If you compile from sources use branch "protocolv2"

Do you send coins for test net or something or i should use existing account ?

PoW difficulty is 0.00010741 you can mine some or give your address I'll send some.

PM with adress sended

BC in amout 1000-2000 spendable in 1s-2s
BC in amout 5000 spendable in 3-4s
BC in amout 22000 spendable in 30s

Don't hurry changes will be applied starting from block 1440, current only 470.

[Coinler]

Is technical innovation and a slick looking and profitable pool enough to succeed? NO!

Even if there weren't a literal sea of copies, clones, scams, etc... with more being launched every week - we have to also understand that BlackCoin is what it is... and that is a copy of previous work which has been (and currently is as rat4's post indicates) being developed into much more than just another altcoin cloned from BTC (or more accurately an amalgamation of BTC and NovaCoin with some adjustments).

We do not always agree, but I agree with you 100% here. I have been saying this for several weeks. Too much focus is on the multi-pool, and very little attention is being spent on PR. Some people assumed the multi-pool would be the shield that keeps BC price stable, and that is been proven to be false. So instead of certain individuals trying a different approach, instead they double down on the idea of the multi-pool. I think we need to pursue as many avenues as we can. We do not need to wait for the "core" group to make decisions. I have people that send me PMs with impressive backgrounds and resumes, but they do not want to come forward because they do not believe in the core group. Over the next few days and weeks you will see some talented people start to bring new ideas to the table.

"If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten...."

the multipool's failure is a direct result of poor profitability. regardless of multipool comparisons.. i am able to do .01+ btc per mh mining other coins and buying bc manually. this blows out any multipool's profitability currently. so u have to ask yourself, why would i mine a multipool when i can gather more investment power myself.

this has to do with the fact that where multipools go, coins are dumped.. significantly lowering the profitability to mining time because of the multipool's heartless abuse of the chosen coin to mine on their buy order book. i message soepkip/iconic about my concern regarding thisa couple weeks ago i think it was and was assured that measures would be put in place to mitigate it.

but now we have a further problem. as many know crypto is a flowing, moving and changing game. you have to calculate every day and sometimes 4-5 times a day. running a multipool efficiently is hard work. it means calculating and searching for the highest profitability option all day.. searching the markets. im pretty sure the multipool doesnt do this and is as a result re-active to profitable coins rather than pro-active.

i recommend some upgrades for the multipool and more prizes. noone cares about knc miner because they wont win. i believe that will be the general consensus of most miners.. especially small time.

1. give users the ability to stipulate their bid price on the bc orderbook through their account
2. also give them the option to hold certain coins the multipool mines (good coin expected to rise in a couple days will increase individual profitability and investment in bc)
3. multipool owners must keep up to date on new currencies with good potential and investment backing so that they can be added as option in the multipool asap upon being added to an exchange.

i disagree with most here on the power of the multipool. i believe that attracting investors to invest via the multipool is the surest way of gaining investors who will hold for more than a rise from 27k to 30k before they dump/downtrade the margin. i think it is in this communities best interest to make use of the multipool as attractive as possible.. and then make it more attractive. this is our baby.. and i dont think we should give up pioneering further usefulness out of it.

im all for PR on the coin. but maybe we can catch 2 birds with one stone by doing some pr on the multipool. ill voice my opinion once more, that i think multiple cheaper prizes will give hope to many more miners entering and increase the probability in their minds that they might actually win something. think about $10k in prizes given via multipool to loyal miners. this will encourage users never to leave the multipool.

good luck with the wallstreet bid. im not sure how the professionals there would take it. but this whole campaign may have worked alot better if there were already blackcoin atms around so ppl can go buy some blackcoin to put on their empty wallet gifts they just got. meh, i can go on. but i feel like noone listens to me on here and just overlook my posts.. whatever.

[IconicExpert]

I wasn't going to intervene in the new, even more outrageous initiative of this little Hitler under the IconicExpert handle, but I just have to point out what it is plain obvious about the guy. You, little Hitler, are poison. To the BlackCoin project and to any community, because you are a dictator who just cannot stand not just criticism -in spite of so many aberrant ideas- but even the more elemental rights anyone can have to sustain and very educatedly, defend their opinions. Who the fuck are you to submit to vote if I should or shouldn't be banned? Who the fuck do you think you are to manipulate such initiative by constantly and unfairly judge and condemn the effects of my posts? who the fuck are you to even talk about me other than on a direct, personal basis, as is the right of everyone on any public forum? You are a despicable, little, insignificant individual whose actions and words put himself in the place where he belongs: That on someone who has to be taken seriously ONLY because he has the potential, under the proper circumstances, of causing severe damage to others, some irrational tool bent of outrageous greed and egocentric behavior lacking any capability whatsoever of self-criticism, restraint or even the most basic reasoning.

I will be here calling it like it is, whether coming from you or coming from whoever, get it? You sir are dangerous and despicable, again. And need to be filtered constantly like you have been in recent past, not allowed to cause any damage. Because that is what you did with your outrageous outburst regarding WC, that is what you would have done if allowed to pursue your initiative to manipulate the BC market and that is probably what you will do marching on Wall Street with your 50 escorts. And yet, I won't advocate for your banning of that of anyone else, no matter how crazy or outrageous. You are, for many, the demoralizing, raging greedy tool in this board, the idiot that post that 360% growth (in exchange price, that is, the only growth you care about), is not just achievable but sustainable. You sir, are the one that STILL hasn't answered the question posed and posted many times: Why the fucking rush? What is the objective of this "help" to the community? Selling more cards for significant profit? dumping the coins when the price gets to a higher level? What? Furthermore, why don't you just make public your wallet so we can see what your level of interest in the future of BlackCoin is, for real, and we all can witness that you are in it for the long haul and for the good and the future of the coin and the community?

You sir, little Hitler, are full of shit.
 

^^^^I rest my case. Is this what we want potential investors reading? Is this the image we want to portray to the world? Is this the kind of person we want to remain here? Anytime someone resorts to comparing another individual to Hitler that person doesn't belong around rational thinking people.

[XbladeX]

BlackCoin Card Software Sneak Peek




As I promised earlier today starts open dialog and transparency. A few cards have been shipped out already, and today we start ramping up shipping. The cards are being sent First Class Mail in large green & white letter envelopes to reduce delays at customs. As everyone know First Class International mail is a bit slow, but it is also the most cost effective method of shipping. Customers will start receiving cards by early to mid next week. Please note there were over 300 pre-orders so please have some patience. Everyone who purchased cards will  receive their cards in the order they made their purchase. First come first served.

Now I would like to share some information about the software that is pre-loaded on each card.

Q: What is the Blackcoin Card and the software loaded on it?

A: The BlackCoin card aka CEX Card (Cyrpto-currency Express Card ) is an 8 gig or more USB wafer with special software pre-loaded on it. I realized that the average person interested in using crypto will have a difficult time with all of the steps involved with getting started. So I developed software similar to a "CD-Rom Start Menu" with everything in one place. So when the end-user inserts the USB wafer the start menu automatically launches and the end-user is presented with everything he/she will need to get started.

The cards are pre-loaded with the standard BlackCoin wallet, and the custom software I developed will automatically update the wallet client as needed. The end-user will never have to worry about downloading software and updates. Also, the blockchain is loaded on the card so the end-user can use the card on any PC without having to wait hours to download the entire blockchain. I do recommend that the card be inserted a few times a week to keep the blockchain fairly updated.

I also realized that the average individual needs to be tech savvy to use paper wallets, so I have eliminated the need for paper wallets. The cards can be used for both hot and cold storage!

Q: How do I use the card?

A: The user inserts the card into any Windows PC via the USB port. The start menu executes automatically and the end-user is presented with a wealth of information and options. The end-user can then transfer funds to the wallet software pre-loaded on the card as they would normally on their desktop. Once the funds are transferred and the wallet is encrypted, the end-user can take the card on the go.

Q: Can I use the BlackCoin card at my local store?

A: CEX Cards are not intended for point of sale transactions. They are intended as a "Cypto for Dummies" solution for the non techie. This is the first time the end user can  get started with crypto in just a few minutes without having to search the web for solutions. Also, the cards can be used as gift cards because they can be pre-loaded with BlackCoins and then given away to friends and family.  


The software I developed is dynamic and can be updated in real time. The software can remain up to date without having to update the core components. However, there is also functionality to update the entire application if needed. I will upload more photos after last minute tweaks are finished. Please note the tweaks do not affect shipping since the software that is pre-loaded on the cards updates automatically and does not have to be 100% perfect before shipping.

I need your help!!! Everyone has been asking for us to focus and get back on track. I am only one man and there isn't enough time in the day to do everything I want. Please take a few minutes and post the link to this announcement around the web. Post in every troll box on every exchange, IRC, Twitter, other forums, and everywhere else you can. We need to let the rest of the crypto-community know that this is just the beginning for BlackCoin and more is soon to come!!!

Everyone should be talking about ways to market this! Any way we can reach the people who may be interested in crypto but are put off by the more technical aspects of downloading a QT, downloading the blockchain, etc..

+1 Crypto for all noobs that is what i like it

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Break time with the comedy show, presented by the legendary fyrstikken, tweeting about something which never happened  

Fyrstikken is far from a crypto-God.  Half the coins he picks are shit.  I mean, look how well Topcoin is doing.  LOL.

[notallthere]

Blackcoin is on vault.
 https://www.vaultofsatoshi.com/orderbook. CAD exchanges, and a few U.S. states allow USD exchanges so far.

Is there a list of which states?  I'm quite interested in this.

Currently they list Texas, South Carolina and Nevada.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24gsl7/new_trade_pages_low_coin_to_coin_more_altcoins/ They posted a summary on the subreddit.

[JamesR1]

https://mywl.lt/voting/

We're behind

[Cryptoolate]

Again, the lack of control by a certain few is astounding.  Remember that once you post, it's out there for everyone to see.....forever.  Think big picture and what that would do to your credibility if you flip flop sides and/or can't control your unprofessional behavior.  All this useless banter does nothing for you or the value of your BC holdings. If the size of your sack matters or that you must get the last word, then talk to your sack in private.  There will be no debate there.    

Please refrain from the attacks/criticism and get back to what matters most, helping BC and it's community thrive.  We can be subjective and still be respectful.
  
Just a general statement and sentiment that I'm sure others share with me.  

[vizique]

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Please refrain from the attacks/criticism and get back to what matters most, helping BC and it's community thrive.  We can be subjective and still be respectful.
  
Just a general statement and sentiment that I'm sure others share with me.  

+1 QFT

[XbladeX]

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nificant profit? dumping the coins when the price gets to a higher level? What? Furthermore, why don't you just make public your wallet so we can see what your level of interest in the future of BlackCoin is, for real, and we all can witness that you are in it for the long haul and for the good and the future of the coin and the community?

You sir, little Hitler, are full of shit.
 

Mayby stop BS all day long and help community somehow or abandon ship...
Hitler had murdered millions of people...
5mln form my nation...
Can you just STFU with such comparisons ?

BC is not only IE there is more people around a coin.
Devs are here on BC official forum.. IRC they can not be EVERYWHERE...
BC is building community and lets be honest barabbas give bad example of attitude.
BC is not centralized all can drive BC in various direction same is now BTC...
Who lead BTC ? NOONE...
Just because BC now have few active leaders this is not end of world.
You can run your king of trolls fraction too if you want.
In stories we fight with trolls using Acid and fire. Here we can only try
make "fake" ban to show where is place for people who constantly have some problem.

[keshuker]

Again, the lack of control by a certain few is astounding.  Remember that once you post, it's out there for everyone to see.....forever.  Think big picture and what that would do to your credibility if you flip flop sides and/or can't control your unprofessional behavior.  All this useless banter does nothing for you or the value of your BC holdings. If the size of your sack matters or that you must get the last word, then talk to your sack in private.  There will be no debate there.    

Please refrain from the attacks/criticism and get back to what matters most, helping BC and it's community thrive.  We can be subjective and still be respectful.
  
Just a general statement and sentiment that I'm sure others share with me.  

+1 from me too

[mr_random]

Don't hurry changes will be applied starting from block 1440, current only 470.

Can you explain what protocol we are changing to or how things will be different?

[MuffinMaster]

this thread... lol

[IconicExpert]

Again, the lack of control by a certain few is astounding.  Remember that once you post, it's out there for everyone to see.....forever.  Think big picture and what that would do to your credibility if you flip flop sides and/or can't control your unprofessional behavior.  All this useless banter does nothing for you or the value of your BC holdings. If the size of your sack matters or that you must get the last word, then talk to your sack in private.  There will be no debate there.    

Please refrain from the attacks/criticism and get back to what matters most, helping BC and it's community thrive.  We can be subjective and still be respectful.
  
Just a general statement and sentiment that I'm sure others share with me.  

This gentleman is one of many who has an impressive background and would like to bring something to the table. If he is getting annoyed by this behavior, can you imagine what investors must be thinking? What about CoinDesk, don't you think they visit the forums? I have already vowed to tone down the "fighting" and keep a "level" head. We need to get back to business, and people like barabbas are not here to help: http://poll.pollcode.com/42515578_result?v

[z3r0]

http://www.twitch.tv/blackcoincast

=D

[digicidal]

Is technical innovation and a slick looking and profitable pool enough to succeed? NO!

Even if there weren't a literal sea of copies, clones, scams, etc... with more being launched every week - we have to also understand that BlackCoin is what it is... and that is a copy of previous work which has been (and currently is as rat4's post indicates) being developed into much more than just another altcoin cloned from BTC (or more accurately an amalgamation of BTC and NovaCoin with some adjustments).

We do not always agree, but I agree with you 100% here. I have been saying this for several weeks. Too much focus is on the multi-pool, and very little attention is being spent on PR. Some people assumed the multi-pool would be the shield that keeps BC price stable, and that is been proven to be false. So instead of certain individuals trying a different approach, instead they double down on the idea of the multi-pool. I think we need to pursue as many avenues as we can. We do not need to wait for the "core" group to make decisions. I have people that send me PMs with impressive backgrounds and resumes, but they do not want to come forward because they do not believe in the core group. Over the next few days and weeks you will see some talented people start to bring new ideas to the table.

"If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten...."

the multipool's failure is a direct result of poor profitability. regardless of multipool comparisons.. i am able to do .01+ btc per mh mining other coins and buying bc manually. this blows out any multipool's profitability currently. so u have to ask yourself, why would i mine a multipool when i can gather more investment power myself.

this has to do with the fact that where multipools go, coins are dumped.. significantly lowering the profitability to mining time because of the multipool's heartless abuse of the chosen coin to mine on their buy order book. i message soepkip/iconic about my concern regarding thisa couple weeks ago i think it was and was assured that measures would be put in place to mitigate it.

but now we have a further problem. as many know crypto is a flowing, moving and changing game. you have to calculate every day and sometimes 4-5 times a day. running a multipool efficiently is hard work. it means calculating and searching for the highest profitability option all day.. searching the markets. im pretty sure the multipool doesnt do this and is as a result re-active to profitable coins rather than pro-active.

i recommend some upgrades for the multipool and more prizes. noone cares about knc miner because they wont win. i believe that will be the general consensus of most miners.. especially small time.

1. give users the ability to stipulate their bid price on the bc orderbook through their account
2. also give them the option to hold certain coins the multipool mines (good coin expected to rise in a couple days will increase individual profitability and investment in bc)
3. multipool owners must keep up to date on new currencies with good potential and investment backing so that they can be added as option in the multipool asap upon being added to an exchange.

i disagree with most here on the power of the multipool. i believe that attracting investors to invest via the multipool is the surest way of gaining investors who will hold for more than a rise from 27k to 30k before they dump/downtrade the margin. i think it is in this communities best interest to make use of the multipool as attractive as possible.. and then make it more attractive. this is our baby.. and i dont think we should give up pioneering further usefulness out of it.

im all for PR on the coin. but maybe we can catch 2 birds with one stone by doing some pr on the multipool. ill voice my opinion once more, that i think multiple cheaper prizes will give hope to many more miners entering and increase the probability in their minds that they might actually win something. think about $10k in prizes given via multipool to loyal miners. this will encourage users never to leave the multipool.

good luck with the wallstreet bid. im not sure how the professionals there would take it. but this whole campaign may have worked alot better if there were already blackcoin atms around so ppl can go buy some blackcoin to put on their empty wallet gifts they just got. meh, i can go on. but i feel like noone listens to me on here and just overlook my posts.. whatever.

I agree whole heartedly, and I want to make it abundantly clear that although I support and desire there to be as much marketing and PR as possible, I feel the pool being up, fully transparent, and optimized is absolutely required for BC to show consistent gains.  In no way to I feel that even 100 of IE's campaigns would single-handedly turn BC into a real investment opportunity... although they would definitely be likely to pump the price to a point where my exit would be very sweet... ultimately they would not be able to support the coin alone and it would collapse like a dot-com-bubble-IPO back in 2000.

The point that many people on both sides seem to disagree on highly - and this is sad - is that no one person or group of people will lead to BC's dominance in the CC marketplace... but it is entirely possible that one person or a group of people (if they are determined/destructive enough) to destroy it.

The bottom line is this... no one needs to have the "last word" - I think we're all well aware of the fact that some people support IE and his marketing initiatives, some people support the idea that a 'central management team' is in control, and other support none of the above.  No matter what we either have to figure out how to swallow our pride - and just work together - or sell out and move along.

Based on many of the opinions here - IconicExpert - I'm afraid you're going to have to accept that although you have done much and have much more planned... that it is not the only reason people are invested in BC, but that a decent group of those who are support you and your initiatives.  At the same time that I agree that problems were created from the 'inside circle' - as it stands today - this isn't the way to resolve that.  Do what you do best, let them do what they do best... and let the rest of the community do what it does best - support whatever it believes is in it's best interests.  Human resource problems are the least of our concerns at the moment... survival and stability are.

There will be time as a community to call for censure or 'management changes' if we survive our first year of existence... if not then all of this was a waste in the first place - but if we start worrying about who get's the bronze bust in the foyer... we're all going to be holding $0.001 BC's not $10.00 BC's.

[valarmg]

I agree whole heartedly, and I want to make it abundantly clear that although I support and desire there to be as much marketing and PR as possible, I feel the pool being up, fully transparent, and optimized is absolutely required for BC to show consistent gains.  In no way to I feel that even 100 of IE's campaigns would single-handedly turn BC into a real investment opportunity... although they would definitely be likely to pump the price to a point where my exit would be very sweet... ultimately they would not be able to support the coin alone and it would collapse like a dot-com-bubble-IPO back in 2000.

The point that many people on both sides seem to disagree on highly - and this is sad - is that no one person or group of people will lead to BC's dominance in the CC marketplace... but it is entirely possible that one person or a group of people (if they are determined/destructive enough) to destroy it.

The bottom line is this... no one needs to have the "last word" - I think we're all well aware of the fact that some people support IE and his marketing initiatives, some people support the idea that a 'central management team' is in control, and other support none of the above.  No matter what we either have to figure out how to swallow our pride - and just work together - or sell out and move along.

Based on many of the opinions here - IconicExpert - I'm afraid you're going to have to accept that although you have done much and have much more planned... that it is not the only reason people are invested in BC, but that a decent group of those who are support you and your initiatives.  At the same time that I agree that problems were created from the 'inside circle' - as it stands today - this isn't the way to resolve that.  Do what you do best, let them do what they do best... and let the rest of the community do what it does best - support whatever it believes is in it's best interests.  Human resource problems are the least of our concerns at the moment... survival and stability are.

There will be time as a community to call for censure or 'management changes' if we survive our first year of existence... if not then all of this was a waste in the first place - but if we start worrying about who get's the bronze bust in the foyer... we're all going to be holding $0.001 BC's not $10.00 BC's.

Great post.

[foaman]

I wasn't going to intervene in the new, even more outrageous initiative of this little Hitler under the IconicExpert handle, but I just have to point out what it is plain obvious about the guy. You, little Hitler, are poison. To the BlackCoin project and to any community, because you are a dictator who just cannot stand not just criticism -in spite of so many aberrant ideas- but even the more elemental rights anyone can have to sustain and very educatedly, defend their opinions. Who the fuck are you to submit to vote if I should or shouldn't be banned? Who the fuck do you think you are to manipulate such initiative by constantly and unfairly judge and condemn the effects of my posts? who the fuck are you to even talk about me other than on a direct, personal basis, as is the right of everyone on any public forum? You are a despicable, little, insignificant individual whose actions and words put himself in the place where he belongs: That on someone who has to be taken seriously ONLY because he has the potential, under the proper circumstances, of causing severe damage to others, some irrational tool bent of outrageous greed and egocentric behavior lacking any capability whatsoever of self-criticism, restraint or even the most basic reasoning.

I will be here calling it like it is, whether coming from you or coming from whoever, get it? You sir are dangerous and despicable, again. And need to be filtered constantly like you have been in recent past, not allowed to cause any damage. Because that is what you did with your outrageous outburst regarding WC, that is what you would have done if allowed to pursue your initiative to manipulate the BC market and that is probably what you will do marching on Wall Street with your 50 escorts. And yet, I won't advocate for your banning of that of anyone else, no matter how crazy or outrageous. You are, for many, the demoralizing, raging greedy tool in this board, the idiot that post that 360% growth (in exchange price, that is, the only growth you care about), is not just achievable but sustainable. You sir, are the one that STILL hasn't answered the question posed and posted many times: Why the fucking rush? What is the objective of this "help" to the community? Selling more cards for significant profit? dumping the coins when the price gets to a higher level? What? Furthermore, why don't you just make public your wallet so we can see what your level of interest in the future of BlackCoin is, for real, and we all can witness that you are in it for the long haul and for the good and the future of the coin and the community?

You sir, little Hitler, are full of shit.
 

what a dumbass I have never used the ignore button until now.  reading your rants is the same type of horrifying nonsense we have to listen to every time Obama opens his mouth.  /vote kick

[Coinler]

let me also suggest, that we have donations for projects done in other currencies besides bc.. and done in btc/ltc etc. as donations in bc would have to be sold down on our order book and provide more "sell-pressure" to convert to btc to convert to fiat.

and kill bc giveaways.. ppl who receive free coins head straight to the dump. those who really want them.. will find a way to obtain them and hold some level of value for them based on the price they paid.