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May 03, 2018, 06:15:22 AM
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The problem is that all the positive news for Litecoin came while the market was taking a serious dive and the positive news from LTC alone couldn't change the entire cryptomarket.  So now that all the positive news for this coin has already come and gone, no one wants to buy it because there doesn't appear to be anything positive in the works anymore. We can all likely recall Charlie's checklist of things to come. More and more got marked off the list and it did nothing for the coin, because the whole market was tanking. If we would have seen the same news last week we would have likely been sitting a lot further up the chart than we are now.

The main thing that has Litecoin is absolute liquidity in the crypto world: ATMs, exchanges and other services - LTC is already present everywhere. So this coin doesn't need to prove its potential with help hype.


Well, I hit a 'snag' with Coinbase's swift card that supposedly acts as a DEBIT card, and such...no fees for a bit of time also..my state MINNESOTA ..is not on the list yet....(likely,
has little to do with Minnesota and more to do we don't have all that many people)

so hard to move LTC when such a debit card is NOT allowed by the 'powers that be' in your state...

(From what I understand as another example, Hawaii does NOT allow coinbase and more than a few others)

anyway, here is the coinbase link to see if such a card is allowed in your state yet

https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2228646-the-shift-card

FML, just counted..one of only 7 states where is not allowed...so much for my 'population arguement' above..... Sad














 

 

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May 03, 2018, 09:13:31 AM
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Charlie Lee's that post I also read in which he has regrets over selling his LTC to early.

I would like to note that it was after Charlie announced the sale of his coins, the protracted fall of the entire crypto-market is began . I don't think he truly regrets the sale, most likely Charlie is trying to make excuses for his actions. After all, the crypto-community has several claims to him.

First, he should not have publicly reported the sale. If we look at the developments he reported the sale on the following day after he sold his coins. And I watched a trade volumes, it was day as day. The market quietly digested his sale. But apparently Charlie was so pleased with the deal, that he decided to boast, otherwise I do not understand the other way. I think he could report for example a few months later.

Second, today he says he regrets that we are in the bear market. I can't believe him with all due respect. His Twitter account is considered to be one of the most reputable and it was he who announced the sale of his coins with the words that he expects a bear market. It was these words that frightened the community.

That is, in fact out that Charlie full of joy left the cryptocurrency and problems to the whole community. He shouldn't have done that. I think this is the reason for his regrets.
Maybe Charlie specifically this news lowered the price to buy cheaper. You need to do the opposite.

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May 03, 2018, 01:51:10 PM
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/litecoin/
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May 03, 2018, 03:19:07 PM
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The problem is that all the positive news for Litecoin came while the market was taking a serious dive and the positive news from LTC alone couldn't change the entire cryptomarket.  So now that all the positive news for this coin has already come and gone, no one wants to buy it because there doesn't appear to be anything positive in the works anymore. We can all likely recall Charlie's checklist of things to come. More and more got marked off the list and it did nothing for the coin, because the whole market was tanking. If we would have seen the same news last week we would have likely been sitting a lot further up the chart than we are now.

The main thing that has Litecoin is absolute liquidity in the crypto world: ATMs, exchanges and other services - LTC is already present everywhere. So this coin doesn't need to prove its potential with help hype.


Well, I hit a 'snag' with Coinbase's swift card that supposedly acts as a DEBIT card, and such...no fees for a bit of time also..my state MINNESOTA ..is not on the list yet....(likely,
has little to do with Minnesota and more to do we don't have all that many people)

so hard to move LTC when such a debit card is NOT allowed by the 'powers that be' in your state...

(From what I understand as another example, Hawaii does NOT allow coinbase and more than a few others)

anyway, here is the coinbase link to see if such a card is allowed in your state yet

https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2228646-the-shift-card

FML, just counted..one of only 7 states where is not allowed...so much for my 'population arguement' above..... Sad


By the way, this news today is exactly one year ...

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/03/coinbase-adds-support-for-litecoin/

Coinbase has just rolled out full support for Litecoin, its third cryptocurrency.

Users will be able to buy, sell, send and store Litecoin from Coinbase’s  website or mobile apps, using easy payment methods like a credit/debit card or PayPal.




And the latest news: Reddit, which hosts communities for every single cryptocurrency in the world, is hoping to bring back crypto payments to the platform, this time with Ethereum and Litecoin in addition to Bitcoin, according to CTO
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May 03, 2018, 04:42:28 PM
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I join this opinion.

It's POW's algorithm made the market as it is. Without a presence of prime cost in a form of electricity costs and an acquisition of equipment would not have formed such a high cost of the coin. And the fact that people continue to mine the coin despite a high costs, suggests that the price of the coin will go up again.

We can easily verify this by comparing POW-coins and POS-coins. All POS-coins are cheap. Compare a  price dynamics. When the market goes down, it's POS-coins fall most quickly, because people don't spend money on electricity, do not pay back their initial investments, but simply hold balances and a node. In fact, the value of the bottom of such coins is the average price at which they got to most of holders, adjusted for the panic of individual individuals and greed of others.

I agree with the argument that the rest of the cryptomarket has grown thanks to POW-coins because they do have value formed by costs. And therefore I invest in POW-coins.

I do agree with you that POW brings the coin more value in that when people buy equipment they are more "locked in" to their investment in the equipment and they can't just move coins to the market and sell them like POS coins, also the cost of the electricity used does give more merit as to why the coins are created. POW in my opinion does give more credence to the argument that these crypto coins are just not created out of thin air.

But can we honestly say that POW is sustainable for the future?

Most of the new projects in crypto are built on DPOS, do they know something we dont?

I can't help but think that POS is the future, maybe in the distant future though.

The main thing that has Litecoin is absolute liquidity in the crypto world: ATMs, exchanges and other services - LTC is already present everywhere. So this coin doesn't need to prove its potential with help hype.

This, for sure.

One of the main reasons why I hold is the exuberant amount of on-ramps for LTC, almost anyone in the world has a chance to get some. Just look at the pairs it has lited on CMC.

LTC
400 pairs

XMR
~130 pairs

EOS
130 pairs

ADA
Only about 30 pairs

All info comes from CMC so could be a bit arbitrary.
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May 04, 2018, 06:23:07 AM
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Which pool is the best for mining?  Currently, I'm using Litecoinpool.org.

Is better to buy than to mine LTC nowadays.

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May 04, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
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Litecoin's rally is always so violent that the long line can continue to hold.

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May 04, 2018, 05:16:38 PM
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Litecoin's rally is always so violent that the long line can continue to hold.
lite coin community is very large with strong hands 
peoples are not willing to sell their lite coins at all
i think soon lite coin price will again start climbing and community of litecoin will see its price again at above 300$


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May 04, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
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Litecoin's rally is always so violent that the long line can continue to hold.
lite coin community is very large with strong hands 
peoples are not willing to sell their lite coins at all
i think soon lite coin price will again start climbing and community of litecoin will see its price again at above 300$

Yep. I bought some more when it dropped $120. Easy $1,000 by end of year. Smiley
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May 04, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
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For everyone on this thread. Understanding WHY we badly need a pump from LTC pow-scrypt
mining point of view. Indeed, IMHO, $200 LTC at this point in time, will barely keep the boat
afloat...anyway, an aside on why LTC really, really, needs to pump from miner viewpoint..not just
making $$$..IMHO, the scrypt-pow network is going to drag price down, if this keeps trending as is....


This is for ONE L3+ 500mh at 800w (data hall situated) and current $162.50 LTC

The unit makes $1.90 USD AFTER electric costs...PER DAY! Sad

24 hours   0.02821928 LTC   4.59 USD   2.69 USD   1.90 USD
7 days   0.19753499 LTC   32.11 USD   18.82 USD   13.29 USD
30 days   0.84657854 LTC   137.61 USD   80.64 USD   56.97 USD


the above is the price in LTC per day for a Bitmain L3+ unit (newest pow-scrypt) out there...

just a reminder that when LTC is not keeping up with folk getting new miners (even if it is Bitmain monopoly ones) that never

bodes well for LTC price in the future....so when folk say, that we need $200 buck price as soon as possible ..it is not hyperbole

if price vs difficulty on pow-scrypt does NOT keep up ..then you will have a stagnant coin here soon, price wise that is...

my take on this since mining LTC from Nov 8th, 2014...It also does not help that BCH is stealing out 'low fee transaction' thunder

..undeservedly IMHO, but there you are...So anyway, keep this in mind when folk are saying LTC has to PUMP...from a pow-scrypt

mining point of view..it has to happen soon or difficulty will outstrip mining and LTC will suffer (IMHO) ... just a cautious aside on all

this 'pump' mania...the price (again IMHO) is getting too damn low to justify mining LTC if this trendline on price vs difficulty continues

anyway, chime in, how I have seen stuff like this go since mining LTC from Nov 8th 2014.....my take on LTC due to its scrypt-pow miner nature...

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May 05, 2018, 05:26:26 AM
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For everyone on this thread. Understanding WHY we badly need a pump from LTC pow-scrypt
mining point of view. Indeed, IMHO, $200 LTC at this point in time, will barely keep the boat
afloat...anyway, an aside on why LTC really, really, needs to pump from miner viewpoint..not just
making $$$..IMHO, the scrypt-pow network is going to drag price down, if this keeps trending as is....


This is for ONE L3+ 500mh at 800w (data hall situated) and current $162.50 LTC

The unit makes $1.90 USD AFTER electric costs...PER DAY! Sad

24 hours   0.02821928 LTC   4.59 USD   2.69 USD   1.90 USD
7 days   0.19753499 LTC   32.11 USD   18.82 USD   13.29 USD
30 days   0.84657854 LTC   137.61 USD   80.64 USD   56.97 USD


the above is the price in LTC per day for a Bitmain L3+ unit (newest pow-scrypt) out there...

just a reminder that when LTC is not keeping up with folk getting new miners (even if it is Bitmain monopoly ones) that never

bodes well for LTC price in the future....so when folk say, that we need $200 buck price as soon as possible ..it is not hyperbole

if price vs difficulty on pow-scrypt does NOT keep up ..then you will have a stagnant coin here soon, price wise that is...

my take on this since mining LTC from Nov 8th, 2014...It also does not help that BCH is stealing out 'low fee transaction' thunder

..undeservedly IMHO, but there you are...So anyway, keep this in mind when folk are saying LTC has to PUMP...from a pow-scrypt

mining point of view..it has to happen soon or difficulty will outstrip mining and LTC will suffer (IMHO) ... just a cautious aside on all

this 'pump' mania...the price (again IMHO) is getting too damn low to justify mining LTC if this trendline on price vs difficulty continues

anyway, chime in, how I have seen stuff like this go since mining LTC from Nov 8th 2014.....my take on LTC due to its scrypt-pow miner nature...

brad

Thanks for your sharing. I still mine this coin and i hope the prise will raise quickly soon Sad
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@searing you must be happy again atm hope you ll get some profit lately you ve been crying a lot  Smiley  Wink  Wink  Wink

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@searing you must be happy again atm hope you ll get some profit lately you ve been crying a lot  Smiley  Wink  Wink  Wink

@searing you must be happy again atm hope you ll get some profit lately you ve been crying a lot  Smiley  Wink  Wink  Wink

Sorry, but with the 'supposed' best scrypt-pow miner and fastest at 500mh and 800watts....Bitmain unit...well, getting $1.39 a day at the

low AFTER electric...this is at a $180 LTC price....anyway $1.39 LTC, was NOT an enjoyable experience...

We are in better shape, not out of the woods yet, but as of this moment I get below at $2.39 per day vs my low of $1.39 a day!

24 hours   0.02821928 LTC   5.08 USD   2.69 USD   2.39 USD
7 days   0.19753499 LTC   35.56 USD   18.82 USD   16.74 USD
30 days   0.84657854 LTC   152.38 USD   80.64 USD   71.74 USD

STILL, need at least 200 USD for LTC IMHO, just to keep everything above the difficulty rise...lots of new equipment...

I figure we need to STAY above $200 bucks for LTC, JUST to stay above $2 coin...with the further difficulty rises in the short term

but yeah, was panic'ing like a 12-year-old child at $1.39 for an L3+ or 69c a day for an L3!

ugly, ugly, indeed

the NIGHTMARE scenario is that difficulty outstrips the ability of an L3+ to keep running. Not talking, buying just running! This could

well be in doubt, IF Bitmain tosses out new equip (rumor) at 1.5gh and 400 watts and mines it all summer, as is how they usually do stuff,

before eventual 'consumers' get the units in the fall of 2018. Thus the nightmare scenario is EVERYONE is 'just out of reach' in mining LTC, or

indeed likely any scrypt-pow coin...and ALL scrypt-pow shifts to Bitmain Data Halls and the need at that *unlikely if scary* point of time

where the choice is to STOP MINING everything but the new consumer product of above (pre-order per usual) in the Fall of 2018...

The old, we missed it by 'this much' ...would be an ugly choice, if the only thing worth mining is to say a new Bitmain unit in the fall at 1.5gh

and 400 watts, while watching Bitmain drive difficulty (and all other scrypt-pow Bitmain units) into the dirt as NON-viable. So your choice

would get out of scrypt-pow mining, even at a 'hobby' one unit level OR buy from Bitmain with a pre-order for a better (only) say 1.5gh

400-watt NEW miner ...ie start over...

not attractive, not likely, but very, very ugly choice wise

less likely now at $2.39 LTC....looking kinda likely at $1.39 LTC a couple weeks ago or so...

(shudder, scared self)

This is the trouble WITH A MONOPOLY, as Bitmain has, they could mess up, and actually be the ONLY ones that could run scrypt-pow at a profit

all summer, don't think that is what they want, but monopolies tend to 'eat their own young' and 'sometimes self-destruct with greed' so they

could mess up and ONLY have themselves to blame...again now they are being cute and consumers are paying for R&D for new stuff etc, they

could find themselves as their ONLY customer, which likely they don't want...so ugly for us and them and all...If the price of LTC, does not keep pace at

least somewhat with difficulty (or as I like to say Bitmain's toaster out the door policy...of 'consume mass quantities business model!




So yeah, the current way Bitmain plays it ...we buy e provide income for R&D etc, on our 'pre-orders' they can hedge their bets on new ASIC's

if that was to break down....where ONLY they could mine the stuff or get the new miners with any certainty of profit...the whole 'neato' Bitmain

profit model would not stop, but slow down quite a bit, IMHO

Anyway, what to I know, at one time I drank the BFL kool-aid....but a world where L3+'s can't make it anymore....and another round of new

miners for scrypt-pow is the only option, well, I saw that when BTC mining went pretty far afield from 'home mining' in 2013.....

Again, unlikely but was a real scenario at the current difficulty and $1.39 LTC per L3+ per day, after electric, a couple weeks ago!

(again, I know zip, but if you see enough 'train wrecks' you, think you know what you are talking about and get, more than a bit skittish) Smiley

















 

 

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May 06, 2018, 11:11:28 AM
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yeah i am not a miner myself but have read up on it a little on diffrent sites and saw what you mentioned about bitmain popping up a lot

was ofcourse thinking about learning myself but decided not to

the way i look at it its far more profitable to trade in those miners then to mine yourself with a all the hassle that comes with it

don t think ltc will be going to 200 dollar anytime soon allthough it would be great

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Let's hope more money by fresh investors will be injecting into Litecoin's market. We are watching a small wave of correction for last few hours which will rearrange the markets positions for next rise. Litecoin's market is in awaiting mode to see some support from those profit takers who will choose unchanged markets for next ride.

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May 06, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
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But can we honestly say that POW is sustainable for the future?

Most of the new projects in crypto are built on DPOS, do they know something we dont?

I can't help but think that POS is the future, maybe in the distant future though.


Yeah, there's a lot to think about.. I think it will be interesting to observe the experiment of the Ethereum devs team. To which end results will they come and what will be a consequences for the network. I mean the Casper protocol implementation.



Searing thank You for calculations. This is very useful information for deciding to enter in LTC.
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May 06, 2018, 08:13:08 PM
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Let's hope more money by fresh investors will be injecting into Litecoin's market. We are watching a small wave of correction for last few hours which will rearrange the markets positions for next rise. Litecoin's market is in awaiting mode to see some support from those profit takers who will choose unchanged markets for next ride.
yes more new investors more market cap and volume
it takes lite coin to the higher price
and according to the analysis there are not much peoples are in crypto yet
from many countries crypto and ICOs are ban or illegal. that's why people are afraid to get in but i think soon this will be okay and ban will lift off 


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May 07, 2018, 10:57:11 AM
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The price of litecoin will soon go up because of the news and of technical anaylis! Trading view analysis showing good sign

This whole ecosystem is dependent on the growth of BTC price if this will get some green than we will effect on this coin too. I also like this coin and have goal of long term from my point this will be into strong position in coming years.

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May 08, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
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Its all mentally, how much disappointment, restart rally, and losses can you take before you give up and give them your coins ?? You have to look through fud and have a strong hand to survive. Mindset / patience is everything in this space. There's nothing cunning if you do not do anything when you can take advantage of price fluctuations and extreme volatility.

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I think that Lightcoin will do 2-3 x within two months, we'll see.


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