Why is the Occupy movement not immediately embracing bitcoin?

[Shuai]

I have been trying to promote bitcoin a bit on facebook and other pages for the 15th october global protest...

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

Or do they just want to protest?

Does anyone have tips on how to best communicate bitcoin when talking to occupy protesters?

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[jimbobway]

bitcoin can be hard to explain to non-techies...keep on trying.

[RodeoX]

On Oct.15, people at occupymadison will hear about it in Wisconsin.

[Shuai]

On Oct.15, people at occupymadison will hear about it in Wisconsin.

Yeah, I'll be out with fliers as well. It's just so weird that the same people who are out protesting for a cause they believe in, respond "but they dont accept it in the big stores" when i try to say why they should support bitcoin and help it grow, to further their own cause.

If anyone has some tips on how to penetrate the minds of these people, please share them.

[Anonymous]

The occupy wallstreet movement is a charade at the moment in the hands of the press. It had grass roots beginnings but those are now long gone. Bitcoin isn't going penetrate a nanometer into its ecosystem. It can't because it won't even be reported on. Its image will be whatever the corporatist press wills it.

If you want any luck, you're better off entering the Occupy the Fed movement.

[Jalum]

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

No Occupy protester has come out desiring a cumbersome electronic cryptocurrency.  What they do want is to prosecute bankers, reinstate Glass-Steagal, limit derivatives trading, and work towards overturning Citizens vs. United.  Please explain how joining the Bitcoin Ponzi scheme so late in the game helps them in any way.

[Anonymous]

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

No Occupy protester has come out desiring a cumbersome electronic cryptocurrency.  What they do want is to prosecute bankers, reinstate Glass-Steagal, limit derivatives trading, and work towards overturning Citizens vs. United.  Please explain how joining the Bitcoin Ponzi scheme so late in the game helps them in any way.

Yeah, all they want to do is alter a system that's rigged against them in the first place. There's no room for actual change in this movement.

[Jalum]

Yeah, all they want to do is alter a system that's rigged against them in the first place. There's no room for actual change in this movement.

Actual change like investing your dollars in pretend internet money in the hopes that they become worth more dollars so you can withdraw your dollars and spend them on things in real life? 

[Stephen Gornick]

I have been trying to promote bitcoin a bit on facebook and other pages for the 15th october global protest...

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

A currency that can be used as a store of wealth that can be transferred globally, with the ability to be transferred anonymously, is not something those carrying the sign "tax the rich" wish to see gain wider use.

On the other hand, there are many in attendance with whom the following message resonates: "Stop giving the bankers your business and your data.   Instead Use bitcoin, an online digital currency.  bitcion is decentralized blah blah blah"

[Shuai]

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

No Occupy protester has come out desiring a cumbersome electronic cryptocurrency.  What they do want is to prosecute bankers, reinstate Glass-Steagal, limit derivatives trading, and work towards overturning Citizens vs. United.  Please explain how joining the Bitcoin Ponzi scheme so late in the game helps them in any way.

How about, uhm, completely obsoleting banks? Anyway, I won't bite your FUD any further.

The occupy wallstreet movement is a charade at the moment in the hands of the press. It had grass roots beginnings but those are now long gone. Bitcoin isn't going penetrate a nanometer into its ecosystem. It can't because it won't even be reported on. Its image will be whatever the corporatist press wills it.

If you want any luck, you're better off entering the Occupy the Fed movement.

Are you saying every single person out protesting the financial institutions, are actually put in place by the financial institutions themselves? I'm not interested in media coverage, im interested in the protesters understanding that the way for them to get the change they want, is to adopt bitcoin. This could literally be the most successful protest started by the lower class ever - financial disobedience.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, all they want to do is alter a system that's rigged against them in the first place. There's no room for actual change in this movement.

Actual change like investing your dollars in pretend internet money in the hopes that they become worth more dollars so you can withdraw your dollars and spend them on things in real life? 

Actual change like displacing the need to have our money issued by the wealthy elite in the first place.

[Shuai]

I have been trying to promote bitcoin a bit on facebook and other pages for the 15th october global protest...

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

A currency that can be used as a store of wealth that can be transferred globally, with the ability to be transferred anonymously, is not something those carrying the sign "tax the rich" wish to see gain wider use.

On the other hand, there are many in attendance with whom the following message resonates: "Stop giving the bankers your business and your data.   Instead Use bitcoin, an online digital currency.  bitcion is decentralized blah blah blah"

I see your point. But i honestly never even start to touch on the subject that bitcoin would mean reinventing taxes (its actually not that advanced, it just means VAT and land tax will take the place of all other taxes)

When i tell them to stop giving banks their business they say "yeah, so we are withdrawing all our money", and they seem to think that is solving the problem.

[johnj]

The occupy wallstreet movement is a charade at the moment in the hands of the press. It had grass roots beginnings but those are now long gone. Bitcoin isn't going penetrate a nanometer into its ecosystem. It can't because it won't even be reported on. Its image will be whatever the corporatist press wills it.

If you want any luck, you're better off entering the Occupy the Fed movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q4T_mrwoyZ0#t=109s

Yep, clearly a 'charade'.

I expected better of you Atlas.

[Anonymous]

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

No Occupy protester has come out desiring a cumbersome electronic cryptocurrency.  What they do want is to prosecute bankers, reinstate Glass-Steagal, limit derivatives trading, and work towards overturning Citizens vs. United.  Please explain how joining the Bitcoin Ponzi scheme so late in the game helps them in any way.

How about, uhm, completely obsoleting banks? Anyway, I won't bite your FUD any further.

The occupy wallstreet movement is a charade at the moment in the hands of the press. It had grass roots beginnings but those are now long gone. Bitcoin isn't going penetrate a nanometer into its ecosystem. It can't because it won't even be reported on. Its image will be whatever the corporatist press wills it.

If you want any luck, you're better off entering the Occupy the Fed movement.

Are you saying every single person out protesting the financial institutions, are actually put in place by the financial institutions themselves? I'm not interested in media coverage, im interested in the protesters understanding that the way for them to get the change they want, is to adopt bitcoin. This could literally be the most successful protest started by the lower class ever - financial disobedience.

There's people much higher than the public institutions on Wall Street. These companies are only acting on the regulations and benefits given to them on the first place. They aren't the real villains. If you want real change, you have to aim for the top and it's the people who create and collect our money in the end: The central banks.

[Anonymous]

I have been trying to promote bitcoin a bit on facebook and other pages for the 15th october global protest...

Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?

A currency that can be used as a store of wealth that can be transferred globally, with the ability to be transferred anonymously, is not something those carrying the sign "tax the rich" wish to see gain wider use.

On the other hand, there are many in attendance with whom the following message resonates: "Stop giving the bankers your business and your data.   Instead Use bitcoin, an online digital currency.  bitcion is decentralized blah blah blah"

I see your point. But i honestly never even start to touch on the subject that bitcoin would mean reinventing taxes (its actually not that advanced, it just means VAT and land tax will take the place of all other taxes)

When i tell them to stop giving banks their business they say "yeah, so we are withdrawing all our money", and they seem to think that is solving the problem.

Do you know where the majority of our taxes go to in the end? It's not the government nor its services. It's the interest and debts placed by the central banking system. It's the shareholders of these banks that are really collecting from us.

Yes, like all hell, it would mean reinventing taxes.

[Anonymous]

The truth is in plain sight, people. Wall Street is only accountable to a government that acts in the interest of the true wealthy elite in the first place. The game is all rigged. You'll get nothing yelling at the puppets.

We have to aim for the top. You're only repeating history otherwise.

The bankers tried this whole "We need to pay more taxes." propaganda decades ago and the people fell for it and they raised taxes on everyone including the high-skilled specialists of this country. The true wealthy are hidden. You can't touch them.

You are all being duped by the corporatists. The whole lot of you.

[Jalum]

There's people much higher than the public institutions on Wall Street. These companies are only acting on the regulations and benefits given to them on the first place. They aren't the real villains. If you want real change, you have to aim for the top and it's the people who create and collect our money in the end: The central banks.

Dude at least give Alex Jones credit because those are his talking points.  Please also talk about how the millionaires are "our job creators."

[Anonymous]

There's people much higher than the public institutions on Wall Street. These companies are only acting on the regulations and benefits given to them on the first place. They aren't the real villains. If you want real change, you have to aim for the top and it's the people who create and collect our money in the end: The central banks.

Dude at least give Alex Jones credit because those are his talking points.  Please also talk about how the millionaires are "our job creators."

The millionaires are mostly small business owners, doctors and specialists. They are certainly very valuable members of society.

What about the crony-capitalists that are screwing you over? Nope. They aren't even on the fucking record. You really think they are going to keep their wealth on-shore and observable? Hah.

[Shuai]

Couldn't you guys have chosen another thread to dump your conspiracies/FUD in? I was actually looking for constructive debate on a specific issue as posted in the OP.

Does anyone have tips on how to best communicate bitcoin when talking to occupy protesters?

[Anonymous]

Couldn't you guys have chosen another thread to dump your conspiracies/FUD in? I was actually looking for constructive debate on a specific issue as posted in the OP.

Does anyone have tips on how to best communicate bitcoin when talking to occupy protesters?

It's not a conspiracy. It's the fucking truth. Look where the money flows. The banks will benefit from everything that is being proposed. The top 1% tax records don't add up. There's too much money not accounted for. All future regulations only benefit the corporations. It's all in plain sight. You just can't handle it. It's much more convenient for you to believe you can change your puppet governments and that they may actually care about you. Keep living in your dream world.