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Author Topic: [ANN][C2.1] Coin2 | Pow/PoS | ChainOfConflict[FPS] The Future of Gaming is Now  (Read 499693 times)
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June 30, 2014, 09:52:59 PM
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Ok I managed to get some more pics from Kalisto. I've thrown a blog together for now that I'll be updating with news, the odd tongue in cheek article and bits and bobs of info as I get it.

It's an unofficial news/fanboy site and I'll post stuff on there as often as I can. Don't take it too seriously. It's nothing to do with the team and there won't be any bells and whistles. Just the odd article here and there and regular updates.

http://www.coin2news.com/
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June 30, 2014, 10:11:38 PM
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Ok I managed to get some more pics from Kalisto. I've thrown a blog together for now that I'll be updating with news, the odd tongue in cheek article and bits and bobs of info as I get it.

It's an unofficial news/fanboy site and I'll post stuff on there as often as I can. Don't take it too seriously. It's nothing to do with the team and there won't be any bells and whistles. Just the odd article here and there and regular updates.

http://www.coin2news.com/

Graphics just keep getting better. Can't wait to play and I don't even play fps games :-)

Well done Glen for rising to the challenge. Looking forward to a steady stream of blogs.

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June 30, 2014, 10:23:38 PM
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Ok I managed to get some more pics from Kalisto. I've thrown a blog together for now that I'll be updating with news, the odd tongue in cheek article and bits and bobs of info as I get it.

It's an unofficial news/fanboy site and I'll post stuff on there as often as I can. Don't take it too seriously. It's nothing to do with the team and there won't be any bells and whistles. Just the odd article here and there and regular updates.

http://www.coin2news.com/

awesome, I will promote the site on Let's Play. I should have a episode by next week. Kalisto and I were testing some stuff out the other night.  It's looking awesome!
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June 30, 2014, 10:42:23 PM
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Reminds me of unreal tournament, outstanding chaps.
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June 30, 2014, 10:50:28 PM
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Reminds me of unreal tournament, outstanding chaps.

your not far off there GT Smiley lol
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July 01, 2014, 12:30:29 AM
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Well I did say it didn't look like a counter-strike clone anymore  Grin
Just pure awesome now

World without fiats!
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July 01, 2014, 01:28:35 AM
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Blackcoin annouced the POS2.0!!! I hope that C2 also update to POS 2.0.

Keep an eye on POS 2.0 for us, atm rat4 has the source private so we cant update yet

So, if C2 will update in future?

If rat4 releases the source then yes
I have learnt that it will open source Grin

When? So I can inform Kalisto
I don't know.I just collect information from the market.
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Blackcoin annouced the POS2.0!!! I hope that C2 also update to POS 2.0.

Keep an eye on POS 2.0 for us, atm rat4 has the source private so we cant update yet

So, if C2 will update in future?

If rat4 releases the source then yes
I have learnt that it will open source Grin

When? So I can inform Kalisto
I don't know.I just collect information from the market.

Not that I care but what exactly is PoS 2.0 supposed to offer in terms of improvement against the current model that warrants messing with code the is working perfectly well?

p.s. this is rat4's github

https://github.com/rat4/blackcoin

p.p.s. if it ain't broken, don't fix it. rat4 needs 'PoS 2.0' because BC is a stagnant PoS.

p.p.p.s. Hello Joel

p.p.p.p.s. rat4's white paper = http://www.blackcoin.co/blackcoin-pos-protocol-v2-whitepaper.pdf

Basically, get rid of coin age (set coin age == 1) and change the proof from scrypt to SHA256

Revolutionary............

Except, without going too deeply into it, why is coin age there in the first place......?

oh, and changing to SHA256 to increase the difficulty to I suppose prevent pre-calculation.......? http://antminers.co.uk/?gclid=CMz6jt-Eo78CFeyWtAodcB8AlA

p.p.p.p.p.s. ok, just looked through peercoin whitepaper http://www.peercoin.net/assets/paper/peercoin-paper.pdf

coin age indeed seems somewhat superfluous, except, when you examin the BC white paper you see this.......

original PoS proofhash < coin age x coins x target
new PoS      proofhash < coins x target

fuck me so what Graham?

well.............

under the old system, coin age would essentially allow a wallet of low coin amount (coins) to accumulate sufficient weight so as to stake a block and gain coins via minting
under the new system, coin users will no longer gain weight! what this means is that low amount of coins users will NEVER BE ABLE TO MINT

wait Graham, your wrong! low coins users will be able to mint because the minting allocation will be linear! (probability of minting on the y axis, coins x target on the x axis, graph is linear y = ax )

Why yes voice in my head, you have a point! except that.............. the probability will be so low when compared to early adopter wallets like mine and coin42 and V's and Glens etc that new users will never, ever catch a block and will, as such, not attempt to mint, this will lead to an SMALLER NODE NETWORK SIZE which is in fact the exact opposite of the stated goal.
In fact what is achieved is a centralisation of the network as a collection of early adopter wallets still minting for 1% (fuck me lol)

But Graham this solves the issues of coin age attacks!

Yes voice in my head it does, but it gives rise to the centralisation of the network and still leaves the door WIDE open for a 51% attack. In fact, by centralising the network, the system is actively encouraging a 51% attack!

But Graham what's the solution to this coin age attack issue?

Well voice in my head, there is no solution, a p2p network requires many, many active nodes to prevent an issue like this occurring. In the instance of the attack on nc2, it was only possible because on the lack of nodes securing the network (you fucking mintpal day trading dickheads), if you treat the blockchain like this, leaving all your coin on a bullshit exchange with insufficient protection then the blockchain will be a target for attack. The only solution is education.....

Education:
There is no interest on c2.1, there is only a TAX ON THOSE WHO DO NOT SECURE THE BLOCKCHAIN. If you do not secure the blockchain, compound interest will destroy your buying power through an exponentially increasing monetary supply.

tldr; BC's PoS 2.0 is a PoS. It will disincentives small stake mining and result in the centralisation of the blockchain.

p.p.p.p.p.p.s. Even if you trade, keep some of you C 2.1 in your wallet, we have coin age! you WILL catch blocks! I mean who risks 100% of their stack in 1 trade!
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July 01, 2014, 02:46:35 AM
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Joel is back!!!!!

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Bitcoin !!!!!!!!!!!
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July 01, 2014, 05:31:45 AM
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Ok all, here is the list of Coin2Talk's Let's Play pages.

My Name is Chad Crypto   Chad is my real first name Smiley

Facebook page :  https://www.facebook.com/letsplayc2

Chad Crypto's Page (Me) : http://facebook.com/chadcrypto

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChadCrypto

the youtube will come soon. Please follow, like, and share! Smiley





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July 01, 2014, 07:21:17 AM
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Joel is back!!!!!

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He must've been incentivised I presume hehe

Good news
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July 01, 2014, 07:25:20 AM
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Ok I managed to get some more pics from Kalisto. I've thrown a blog together for now that I'll be updating with news, the odd tongue in cheek article and bits and bobs of info as I get it.

It's an unofficial news/fanboy site and I'll post stuff on there as often as I can. Don't take it too seriously. It's nothing to do with the team and there won't be any bells and whistles. Just the odd article here and there and regular updates.

http://www.coin2news.com/

Graphics just keep getting better. Can't wait to play and I don't even play fps games :-)

Well done Glen for rising to the challenge. Looking forward to a steady stream of blogs.

Those graphics are cool as ****!!!
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July 01, 2014, 07:28:29 AM
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Maybe Coin2 Dev Board needs to be resized and keep Development of FPS and development of the actual coin seperated in two different sections.
I think it wouldn't be too bad of an idea to get one or two professionals to keep on track with coin development.
I understand that it is all about the game (FPS) but still that doesn't make a blow if coin itself doesn't stay on track...
I would love to see implementation of privacy features in C2 not just to get the price back to where it belongs but also
get back the attention of investors that lost hope and patience in C2 by not seeing lots of progress here lately.

I mean I could have left long time ago if I wanted to, but overall there has been done quite a lot and Devs have put a lot of effort in it too.
But after all you should not forget that your rivals never rest....
I see lots of improvement in so many more coins... I'd love to see more happen to the actual coin also...
I'd love to see more features of coin2 ("coin2send" or "coin2bit" or sth. that noone has done before)  Undecided

Still got hope for this  Smiley

Someone raised a suggestion of proof of gaming

Yet to be announced I guess

Anon is a double edged sword
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July 01, 2014, 09:44:41 AM
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i was waiting for a multipool where i can mine x11 and be paid in coin i prefer, just a quick question, how do they payout in coin2, are they buying at whatever price and exchange or do they carefully choose moment, setting buy orders, etc ?

It all automated so buy at market price. Choosing "better" moment can have the opposite effect too.


ok, i am in with 20+mh/s in x11 and will stay here as long as it seems fair


greetings to best comunity in crypto, and joel  Grin

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July 01, 2014, 09:54:06 AM
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ok, i am in with 20+mh/s in x11 and will stay here as long as it seems fair
greetings to best comunity in crypto, and joel  Grin

Cool, ask around I think gagapool pays well and please note that first payment happens 12h~24h after you started mining, don't panic when you aren't paid after 10 hours of mining.

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July 01, 2014, 10:08:26 AM
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ok, i am in with 20+mh/s in x11 and will stay here as long as it seems fair
greetings to best comunity in crypto, and joel  Grin

Cool, ask around I think gagapool pays well and please note that first payment happens 12h~24h after you started mining, don't panic when you aren't paid after 10 hours of mining.

GaGapool pays regularly, I am happy that I landed my hashes in your pool. Thanks!

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July 01, 2014, 10:15:50 AM
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GaGapool pays regularly, I am happy that I landed my hashes in your pool. Thanks!

Thanks for the kind words.

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July 01, 2014, 10:39:03 AM
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Anon is hot why not implement it? I bought in at 1k sat (250k) and if I look at the price now I dont kbow what to think...

y1.
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July 01, 2014, 10:46:21 AM
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Anon is hot why not implement it? I bought in at 1k sat (250k) and if I look at the price now I dont kbow what to think...

It's a question of priorities. What use is it having a coin that has anon that no one uses? Far better to have a coin that has a use/ purpose/ userbase and add anon. So first priority has to be to finish the game and then decide what features to add and in what order after that.

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July 01, 2014, 10:58:28 AM
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Anon is hot why not implement it? I bought in at 1k sat (250k) and if I look at the price now I dont kbow what to think...

It's a question of priorities. What use is it having a coin that has anon that no one uses? Far better to have a coin that has a use/ purpose/ userbase and add anon. So first priority has to be to finish the game and then decide what features to add and in what order after that.

Here is a plan and a new challenge for the community to get a purpose for Coin2:

https://twitter.com/CoinPaymentsNET/status/483471332890267648

https://www.coinpayments.net

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