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March 09, 2014, 04:41:54 AM
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devs are human and have to sleep

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March 09, 2014, 04:45:47 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token. Please don't tell me that's my fault because no where was that indicated on the site nor should it be necessary, I reserved my stake by acquiring a token, that token should represent my stake.
Regardless now I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?

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March 09, 2014, 04:50:40 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token.
I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?




you tried for more than your fair share... than got mad when someone else had more... heh
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March 09, 2014, 04:52:27 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token.
I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?




you tried for more than your fair share... than got mad when someone else had more... heh

They never claimed that 1 stake was your "fair share" in fact they designed it in a way so that it would only be fair if EVERYONE reserved a stake every hour until the launch. Only that way would everyone have the same amount because they encouraged people to apply for stake multiple times.

At least premine (PMC) gave 1 stake per account on bitcointalk, making it the most fair coin yet.
This coin is a giant farce.
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March 09, 2014, 04:58:38 AM
Last edit: March 09, 2014, 05:09:23 AM by y3804
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token. Please don't tell me that's my fault because no where was that indicated on the site nor should it be necessary, I reserved my stake by acquiring a token, that token should represent my stake.
Regardless now I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?



Dude, stop being mad. I'll send you 10 stakes if you want.

Now, the reason why you're mad is because you're a fucking idiot. Why? It's obvious that you don't understand the security protocols behind the stake process.

I found 3 main checks in their protocol:

1. Token is unique to IP. Token can therefore only be used on the registered IP address.
2. Token is unique to session cookie. If you use the same cookie to generate different tokens on different IP addresses, it won't work. It will produce invalid tokens (at least for me)
3. Only one token is valid at any given time for any registered IP address. You can't 'save' them and use them later.

Of course, if you reset your token, the previous one becomes invalid, as there's only one valid for IP. If you were 'saving' them instead of using them.. sorry bud, you're an idiot

Also, devs did the best to save their coin.

1. 2x Captcha protection (Google captcha + sweetCaptcha)
2. Proxy detection (this was hard for me)
3. One hour delay
4. Registered token only works on registered IP and unique session cookie.

How I did it:

VPN (access to 200 private gateways with unblocked servers) + rasdial, fiddler2, autohotkey, scripts, and lots of time on my hands to enter those damn captchas. It took me about 24 hours of work for the first 150 tokens, then 5 hours for the last 200ish.
I have developed a script so complex I can consistenly register more than 3 addresses/minute (100/hour). Everything is automated but the damn Google recaptcha. SweetCaptcha can be bypassed using image detection
Unfortunately I was gone for the most part today and when I came back it was already 46kish/49k, so couldn't make it
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March 09, 2014, 04:59:27 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token.
I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?




you tried for more than your fair share... than got mad when someone else had more... heh

They never claimed that 1 stake was your "fair share" in fact they designed it in a way so that it would only be fair if EVERYONE reserved a stake every hour until the launch. Only that way would everyone have the same amount because they encouraged people to apply for stake multiple times.


 "they designed it in a way so that it would only be fair if EVERYONE reserved a stake every hour until the launch."

so it was designed to be fair ONLY if EVERYONE reserved a stake an hour untill launch?

i dont think so... that doesnt make sense as you cannot rely on that scenerio happening.additionally you could not reserve untill after launch ..... they did their best to try and make it so users couldnt get more than 1 share an hour.. protection was via IP with some proxies blocked and a captcha type device. it seems you may not have understood how the system was working having reserved 10 tokens. also you must have been reserving them on different ips? because after you get a token, and reload in 1 hour, you are prompted to enter your address--- unless of course your IP was changing.....

i donno, but sorry you got mad.
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March 09, 2014, 05:06:12 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

Whoa that's 0.7% of all faircoin already. I wonder if there's anyone who managed to get 1% above.
My god.
1% means 500.......
You scare me.....
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March 09, 2014, 05:08:28 AM
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At least premine (PMC) gave 1 stake per account on bitcointalk, making it the most fair coin yet.

No PMC was given out rather adhoc, and much of it via a faucet which was easily gamed. Faircoin's distribution was way harder to game, and most likely way better distributed.
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March 09, 2014, 05:09:49 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token. Please don't tell me that's my fault because no where was that indicated on the site nor should it be necessary, I reserved my stake by acquiring a token, that token should represent my stake.
Regardless now I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?



Dude, stop being mad. I'll send you 10 stakes if you want.

Now, the reason why you're mad is because you're a fucking idiot. Why? It's obvious that you don't understand the security protocols behind the stake process.

I found 3 main checks in their protocol:

1. Token is unique to IP. Token can therefore only be used on the registered IP address.
2. Token is unique to session cookie. If you use the same cookie to generate different tokens on different IP addresses, it won't work. It will produce invalid tokens (at least for me)
3. Only one token is valid at any given time for any registered IP address. You can't 'save' them and use them later.

Of course, if you reset your token, the previous one becomes invalid, as there's only one valid for IP. If you were 'saving' them instead of using them.. sorry bud, you're an idiot

Also, devs did the best to save their coin.

1. 2x Captcha protection (Google captcha + sweetCaptcha)
2. Proxy detection (this was hard for me)
3. One hour delay
4. Registered token only works on registered IP and unique session cookie.

How I did it:

VPN (access to 200 private gateways with unblocked servers) + rasdial, fiddler2, autohotkey, scripts, and lots of time on my hands to enter those damn captchas. It took me about 24 hours of work for the first 150 tokens, then 5 hours for the last 200ish.
I have developed a script so complex I can consistenly register more than 3 addresses/minute (100/hour). Everything is automated but the damn Google recaptcha. SweetCaptcha can be bypassed using image detection
Unfortunately I was gone for the most part today and when I came back it was already 46kish/49k, so couldn't make it

very clever  Grin Grin

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March 09, 2014, 05:34:17 AM
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Hi guys,
Only the first 49750 addresses will receive their fair share,
The distribution will be made in the coming hours

Thanks,
Faircoin Team
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March 09, 2014, 05:39:07 AM
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Such silent devs, so many confusions. wow
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March 09, 2014, 05:42:41 AM
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Really. I got 10 shares and I'm perfectly fine with that. If you want more just wait until an exchange thread pops up and 98% of the initial holders dump for dirt and buy in..

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March 09, 2014, 05:43:56 AM
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Hi guys,
Only the first 49750 addresses will receive their fair share,
The distribution will be made in the coming hours

Thanks,
Faircoin Team
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March 09, 2014, 05:58:33 AM
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show of hands! how many addresses have you got?

I didn't attempt to get more stakes today.

I'm at 350+

So I get home and its all over. The 10 tokens I got yesterday are worthless because you can't save them, you have to use them  before you get a new token. Please don't tell me that's my fault because no where was that indicated on the site nor should it be necessary, I reserved my stake by acquiring a token, that token should represent my stake.
Regardless now I've got 1 stake.

This fuck has 350x the amount I do and most likely 10x the amount most other people have (even 35 is stretching it).
And we don't even know how many thousand the developer is taking for himself because this is not transparent at all.

How is this fair again?



Dude, stop being mad. I'll send you 10 stakes if you want.

Now, the reason why you're mad is because you're a fucking idiot. Why? It's obvious that you don't understand the security protocols behind the stake process.

I found 3 main checks in their protocol:

1. Token is unique to IP. Token can therefore only be used on the registered IP address.
2. Token is unique to session cookie. If you use the same cookie to generate different tokens on different IP addresses, it won't work. It will produce invalid tokens (at least for me)
3. Only one token is valid at any given time for any registered IP address. You can't 'save' them and use them later.

Of course, if you reset your token, the previous one becomes invalid, as there's only one valid for IP. If you were 'saving' them instead of using them.. sorry bud, you're an idiot

Also, devs did the best to save their coin.

1. 2x Captcha protection (Google captcha + sweetCaptcha)
2. Proxy detection (this was hard for me)
3. One hour delay
4. Registered token only works on registered IP and unique session cookie.

How I did it:

VPN (access to 200 private gateways with unblocked servers) + rasdial, fiddler2, autohotkey, scripts, and lots of time on my hands to enter those damn captchas. It took me about 24 hours of work for the first 150 tokens, then 5 hours for the last 200ish.
I have developed a script so complex I can consistenly register more than 3 addresses/minute (100/hour). Everything is automated but the damn Google recaptcha. SweetCaptcha can be bypassed using image detection
Unfortunately I was gone for the most part today and when I came back it was already 46kish/49k, so couldn't make it

Using scripts should be considered cheating.
The whole reason people are made to wait an hour before the token becomes valid is to prevent the use of scripts. (bots)
Devs, since this person admitted they are using scripts and other deceptive methods can we please remove their stake?

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March 09, 2014, 05:59:08 AM
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Anyone received some coins yet?
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March 09, 2014, 06:00:53 AM
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From the site:
"What's stopping me from entering multiple addresses, or writing a script that does that?
Registering multiple addresses is not a problem in itself, as long as you don't have an advatange over others.
Ultimately, we can't be sure we can stop a hacker with enough ability and motivation. But by placing protections and not revealing them ahead of time we can level the playing field for a fixed and short amount of time."

This implies that faircoin did not want people to use scripts.  They admit they cannot catch everyone so they are placing protections in so that they can catch some of the cheaters.

Since a previous poster admitted to using a script they should have their stake invalidated if possible - if you can somehow figure that out.

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March 09, 2014, 06:02:56 AM
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"I have developed a script so complex I can consistenly register more than 3 addresses/minute (100/hour). Everything is automated but the damn Google recaptcha. SweetCaptcha can be bypassed using image detection"

If this is allowed then the coin is definitely not fair.

The whole situation allows for cheaters and unfair things.

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March 09, 2014, 06:09:50 AM
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all i know is, after this 2 days i wouldn't want an ice cream, orangejuice, and cigar for a long time...
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March 09, 2014, 06:16:41 AM
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"I have developed a script so complex I can consistenly register more than 3 addresses/minute (100/hour). Everything is automated but the damn Google recaptcha. SweetCaptcha can be bypassed using image detection"

If this is allowed then the coin is definitely not fair.

The whole situation allows for cheaters and unfair things.

They tried to prevent such happenings, but they knew they couldn't catch them all. The person who made the script is beyond reprehensible, but the system allowed for such a thing to happen. This person did have to at least do one thing manually - Google captcha. He admitted such. There will always be people like him that feel they need to take advantage of systems that are put into place. One can only hope that karma is a real thing and that it catches up to these folks.

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March 09, 2014, 06:17:22 AM
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all i know is, after this 2 days i wouldn't want an ice cream, orangejuice, and cigar for a long time...

What about putting your eye back into its socket?  Wink

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