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March 29, 2014, 02:53:17 AM
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I want to know, this money is still hope on other platforms?

NXT:NXT-9KQF-4JBZ-XFEH-9H2NB
NTXCoin - 20%Free+75%IPO Next Exchange System address:13725504716929486253
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Last edit: March 29, 2014, 06:18:10 AM by youngcave
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好吧,我错了,既然是三方,那第三方也要发表了哈哈
NXT-E:bittrex第一时间就关闭FAC交易了,polo也只是被砸了一波,就关闭FAC的提现和交易了。我们群主昨晚九点左右就提醒你们FAC出现分叉了,但是一直到四小时后出现砸盘,你们没有任何反应。
The dev:发个币都能把币发丢的你们,是凭的什么这么快速的解决假币的问题的?我好像记得一开始丢失的币,你们花了一星期才找到的吧。这次神奇出现的几百万,你们花几小时就找到了?
Users: 我们的币在哪里?免费发的币,免费收回了哈哈。


 Shocked 你们群主? 群主是币的作者吗? 我们也只能听官方的吧。  当时我们检查过,和 blockchain 一致。
另一个NXT群的,叫米拉,不要猜币的作者了,是不是中国人跟这件事没影响,不要再丢中国人的脸了。什么官方?作者不是官方,你们才是官方。米拉当时跟虎牙说的是出现分叉,你们就应该查验下是不是真的,当时就该关闭交易
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March 29, 2014, 02:56:21 AM
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Oh,shit! I lost all my FAC,buy from nxt-e .you guys Embarrassed
they do nohing but blaming the dev and took our coins  Undecided
the dev should be blamed.the fork should be choice by system free,not by the checkpoints of dev
You know there was a attacked and bought the insane cheap fake FAC and you wanna that came true?  Go fuck yourself greedy shit
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March 29, 2014, 02:59:53 AM
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poloniex玩得真绝,直接把我的 61238个faircoin变成0了,而且没有任何解释,我正发邮件问poloniex
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March 29, 2014, 03:37:42 AM
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There is some problem with sync.?
I am using these nodes could any member with complete sync. wallet verify with this?
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addnode=54.84.156.138
addnode=109.87.249.86
addnode=223.78.212.148
addnode=89.166.1.11
addnode=80.112.144.84:7711
addnode=82.139.127.205:7711
addnode=24.178.30.102:7711
addnode=98.214.5.223:7711
addnode=95.85.50.188:7711
addnode=94.212.24.127:7711
addnode=88.127.170.75:7711
Thanks in advance.

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March 29, 2014, 03:42:41 AM
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There is some problem with sync.?
I am using these nodes could any member with complete sync. wallet verify with this?
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addnode=54.84.156.138
addnode=109.87.249.86
addnode=223.78.212.148
addnode=89.166.1.11
addnode=80.112.144.84:7711
addnode=82.139.127.205:7711
addnode=24.178.30.102:7711
addnode=98.214.5.223:7711
addnode=95.85.50.188:7711
addnode=94.212.24.127:7711
addnode=88.127.170.75:7711
Thanks in advance.

i had mass nodes on my conf previously, however after the new wallet install was not syncing, i just removed the entire conf and bam.
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March 29, 2014, 03:54:00 AM
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I want to know, this money is still hope on other platforms?

currently #1 in mintpal voting https://www.mintpal.com/voting . come and join to da train before it took off


synced right away, good job!

my nodes atm:

107.170.78.230:46392
193.219.117.63:46392
80.34.35.221:46392
161.53.40.242:46392
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March 29, 2014, 04:15:28 AM
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Looks like Fair coin is becoming more and more popular. I might buy some when it is on Mintpal.

buy on Poloniex now and save, why wait till the mintpal pump?Huh
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March 29, 2014, 04:39:03 AM
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use this addnode alone addnode=54.84.156.138

you dont need more than that. thats the main one.
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March 29, 2014, 05:03:47 AM
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OK, just continue vote on mintpal...
I think the problem will be solved quickly.
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March 29, 2014, 05:43:35 AM
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To nxt-e.com

I deposited some FAC to nxt-e few days ago before all the problems started.
I would like to get the back.
Nxt-e.com how can I can get back my FAC?

Likely, you will loss your real FAC.

They said they won't sync the wallet.  They said they planned to refund those users buying cheap FAKE FAC at the price of  10 satoshi WITH YOUR REAL FAC!!!!

WFT logic!!!!
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March 29, 2014, 05:45:31 AM
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poloniex玩得真绝,直接把我的 61238个faircoin变成0了,而且没有任何解释,我正发邮件问poloniex

You are from NXT-e team, aren't you?
When do you buy your 61238 faircoins or deposit them?
Post your trade history!
And write with English, idiot.
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Again, about NXT-E.

I summarize some of their points:

1. They thought it's the dev who create the fork and sold 15m FAC to cash out.

2. They thought the dev is Chinese scammer. He kept a huge amount of FAC to wait for cash. Funny is all staffs of NXT-E are Chinese.

3. They said they did nothing wrong. They said they were informed too late so it's the dev's fault.  (So Satoshi should pay for those losing their money on Mtgox. Mtgox did nothing wrong!)

4. They said unless the dev paid for the loss or "combine" the fork, otherwise they will stay on the forked blockchain. That means those users who deposit their real coins won't get their coin back.

5. You can see several pages before. There are several Chinese character posts saying FAC is dead and no exchange will accept it. They are from NXT-e working QQ group.

6. Likely,  they will blame me as they think I am another account of the dev.

7. I love their logic. But they don't love ours.
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nxt-e, are you stupid? how do you find the dev is chinese? Do you think chinese dev would distribute most all the coins? maybe you have an excuse that the last 15 m didn,t send out, actually it was done, ok!! DONT get a silly excuse. You are a platform, you should service for customer ok. you would lost your customer and credit if you always want to hold your benefit!
Indeed, they did argue the dev didn't distrubute all the coins.
They said they applied 300K but only got 3000 FAC. And they thought the dev eaten the last part: 15m FAC which was sold the day before yesterday on their platform.

The worst thing is they have no plan to give back the REAL FAC. 
It makes them not only be a non-responsible , but also a terrible SCAMMER!
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March 29, 2014, 06:38:28 AM
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Let us make this crystal clear. Why can't we reopen withdraws and market?

•Simple put, we don't have so many fac in our wallet. Why? It's because we got hacked and your fac got stolen? If it's, we take full responsibility. We even buy fac and give every lost fac back to all you guys. But it isn't. So what has happened? It is because that Faircoin dev team decided to roll back block chain and make some fac void/invalid. In our wallet, the amount is about 5.6 million coins which had more than 6 confirmations before. Most of those coins have been traded with hard working btc. So when they irresponsible decided to invalidate those fac, they also invalidate your hard working btc at the same time. If you think you deserve this, you should ask Fac team give those btc back to you, since they invented, distributed and rolled back the block chain. It is not us who steal from you.

For those who claimed that he is not affected by this nonsense, but actually everyone is affected, including us. We are all victims of this faulty coins. Ask yourself, if you were the one who bought those invalid coins, you would want to be given up and willing to eat your own loss? The answers is definitely NO. We don't want to leave behind any users on our exchange. We need to stick together and fight for this together.

We will wait for FAC team to come with an explanation, solution and compensation plan. If you have any idea or suggestion for us, we are all ears. Please contact us vis Official Support.

Those who blame we react too slow. Let us show you time line. The trades of 5 million coins happened between 2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 and 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113. The first time FAC team contact via our support channel(which we monitor 24/7) is 2014-03-28 01:14:36. It's about 13 hours after the last malicious trade. And he did not even mention about stopping trade or withdraw. He said, I quote:
Can you check if there are any weird deposits in the FAC addresses? Values over a million FAC?

It's believed that the attacker (51% attack) made a 50M transaction for himself and possibly deposited them here and on Poloniex. Mind checking?

Thanks
                        

And we acted right away. We are not monitoring BTT 24/7. FAC team is our registered user and used our support channel to contact us before. Why they did not do the same thing this time? Just PM us on BTT carelessly?

What happens if we open market right now? There will be a huge dump, and the price will crash to the ground. That will hurt every fac investors. We don't want to see FAC hurts our users again before it dies. We still hope FAC team can sort this crisis out.

If FAC team can come up with a plan that can be accepted by all users. We will immediately reopen withdraw and market. But until then, withdraw and market remain closed.


• 让我们把事情理理顺吧。为什么我们不开放提款和交易市场。

简单来说, 我们没有那么多的fac可供提款。为什么呢? 是因为我们交易所被黑, 你们的币被盗吗? 如果是这样的话,我们负全责。我们会去买来所有的fac来赔偿给说有的损失者。但是不是这个情况。 那发生什么事情呢? 是因为FAC的开发团队决定要回滚区块链, 让一些区块不合法。 在我们钱包里面的就意味这将近560万的fac币被认定为不合法的。 这些不合法的币之前都是有超过6个合法确认的。而且大部分已经都和你们辛苦赚来的BTC交易了。 因此当他们不负责任的回滚了区块链的同时, 也意味着那些辛苦赚来的BTC因为买入这些不合法币也随之烟消云散。如果你觉得你不应该得到如此对待, 你应该立即向FAC团队要回那些被他们搞消失的fac或者btc。 因为他们造了这个币,分发了这个币,现在又回滚了。 这些消失的币不是我们偷的或者吃掉了,始作俑者是FAC团队。

那些声称自己没有被这次事件影响的人,请想想,实际上所有人都被这个币给影响了。包括我们。我们都是这个币的受害者。请扪心自问,如果是你们买入了那些被作废的币,你们会想被放弃,然后默默的自认那些损失吗? 答案肯定是不会的。 我们也不想抛下我们平台上的任何人。我们必须要站在一起, 对这次的损失进行抗争。我们一定要求FAC的团队给个合理的说法,解决方法和赔偿。

那些说我们反应慢的人,我们列一个时间线吧。那个砸盘的5百万的交易发生在2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 和 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113之间。FAC官方团队第一次通过我们官方的客服联系我们的时候是2014-03-28 01:14:36。 这个已经是最后一笔恶意交易之后差不多13小时了。而且他甚至没有提到任何关闭交易或者停止提款的事情。 我引用:
你们能查下是否有任何奇怪的存款存入FAC账号吗? 数量超过1百万fac的?
因为我们相信有人采用51%的攻击,存入一笔50M的存款,可能存入这里和Poloniex交易所。介意查看下吗?
谢谢
                        

我们已经立刻做出反应了。我们没有监看BTT论坛24小时。 FAC团队是我们交易所的注册用户, 他们之前就用过我们的客服支持来和我们联系。他们这次为什么不这样做呢? 而只是毫不在意的在BTT上给我们PM?

如果现在我们开放交易市场会发生什么事情吗? 马上就会有巨量的砸盘出现,fac的价格会立刻跌入谷底。 这将损害所有的投资者的利益。我们不愿意看到fac最后以这个损害投资者方式而结束。我们依旧希望FAC团队能解决这次的危机。

如果FAC团队能提出一个被所有用户接受的方案,我们将立即开发提款和交易市场。 但是在那之前, 提款和交易会保持关闭。

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题外话:中国人请看! FAQ:

为什么我们一直说此次问题,99%是官方的阴谋! 我们拥有有全部的证据!


1、为甚NXT-E 坚持说自己没有分叉?
nxt-e有客服支持功能! 用户出现问题就会留言我们就会处理! 从 27日 - 28 日官方所谓的分叉期间  我们平台没有用户抱怨存取款问题,这意味着所有人均和我们保持同步,如果是币分叉了,我们会所有人都在同一个分叉上吗?

2、所谓的米拉通知Huya的事情是怎么一回事?
米拉在QQ上给虎牙的留言:
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米拉 2014/3/28 3:51:21
虎牙,刚在nxt-e平台上买到的fac,网上有人说是孤块, 钱包分叉了。 如果抛售的人提款抛了,买的人损失就大了。
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首先我们不说凌晨4:00 给中国区客服留言的事情是否是恶意的!我们只说明以下 2:00

1、FAC从未让米拉作为联络官,难道任何一个用户让我们处理任何币的分叉,我们都会相应?我们只会听从官方,以前是这样,以后也是!
2、我们收到(注意是6个确认以后)FAC最后一笔错误存款的时间是:2014/3/28 03:01 ,早于米拉的通知!

3、为什么你们坚持是FAC官方团队策划的此次事件?

1、我们认定之前的存款是有效的,它来自于官方团队的某个地址,原因是:如果黑客篡改交易数据实施51%攻击,它并不能凭空变出巨量存款,而是需要先伪造交易记录,从其他账号转账到自己的账号(注意!没有其他方法) FAC足够分散,最大的账户就是 nxt-e和 polo 但是我们并没有被黑。 那么黑客如何在短时间内(FAC确认较慢)伪造巨量的交易记录而在blockchain 下没有任何痕迹? 因此,巨量存款一定是合法的!

4、FAC官方有动机吗? 以下是我们自己的分析!
1、FAC创始阶段有1500万丢掉了(鬼才信他们不备份钱包)后来声称又找到了。合理的分析是:是团队成员之间产生分裂。
2、由于受到27日媒体坏消息的影响,决定去卖掉,其后又后悔了(卖掉就没有事业,群就要结算)于是谎称是分叉。
3、FAC团队从开始到现在,伴随着谎言成长! NXT-E 的信用大家都看的见,我们的承诺没有一条失言!

5、我们该做什么?
米拉曾经在QQ说交易所是菜市场。没错,我们就是菜市场, FAC团队是小贩,生活中,你们在菜市场买到假货是如何处理的? 菜市场只能以下架的方式惩罚小贩,它损害大家的利益,NXT-E绝不能姑息坏人的牟利! 因为他们已经没有底线,此次事件可以再做N次。

最后想说的:

FAC的团队是中国已经确定无疑:
1、他们的中文网站做的很好!他们的工作时间是中国时间。域名fair-coin.net 是通过万网进行注册的。(查询方式:http://www.net.cn/)
2、他们用大量的马甲在BTT里混淆视听,把舆论引到 NXT-E。
3、NXT-E选择在第一时间通报所有用户是我们的责任。,NXT-E我们绝对不姑息骗子。
4、我(客服)也是中国人,我为中国骗子感到寒心,是你们丢了中国人的脸。
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March 29, 2014, 06:54:40 AM
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So....I bought .1 BTC worth of FAC an hour before this BS started.

Is this coin dead or what?Huh??



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Again, about NXT-E.

I summarize some of their points:

1. They thought it's the dev who create the fork and sold 15m FAC to cash out.

2. They thought the dev is Chinese scammer. He kept a huge amount of FAC to wait for cash. Funny is all staffs of NXT-E are Chinese.

3. They said they did nothing wrong. They said they were informed too late so it's the dev's fault.  (So Satoshi should pay for those losing their money on Mtgox. Mtgox did nothing wrong!)

4. They said unless the dev paid for the loss or "combine" the fork, otherwise they will stay on the forked blockchain. That means those users who deposit their real coins won't get their coin back.

5. You can see several pages before. There are several Chinese character posts saying FAC is dead and no exchange will accept it. They are from NXT-e working QQ group.

6. Likely,  they will blame me as they think I am another account of the dev.

7. I love their logic. But they don't love ours.
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Wtf? They were notified too late?

I put up a question as soon as the fork happened and even sent msgs in the trollbox. No one answered.

Hi y3804, do you have evidence to prove it?
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March 29, 2014, 07:08:53 AM
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fair-coin must to be dead.

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March 29, 2014, 07:13:01 AM
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Let us make this crystal clear. Why can't we reopen withdraws and market?

•Simple put, we don't have so many fac in our wallet. Why? It's because we got hacked and your fac got stolen? If it's, we take full responsibility. We even buy fac and give every lost fac back to all you guys. But it isn't. So what has happened? It is because that Faircoin dev team decided to roll back block chain and make some fac void/invalid. In our wallet, the amount is about 5.6 million coins which had more than 6 confirmations before. Most of those coins have been traded with hard working btc. So when they irresponsible decided to invalidate those fac, they also invalidate your hard working btc at the same time. If you think you deserve this, you should ask Fac team give those btc back to you, since they invented, distributed and rolled back the block chain. It is not us who steal from you.

For those who claimed that he is not affected by this nonsense, but actually everyone is affected, including us. We are all victims of this faulty coins. Ask yourself, if you were the one who bought those invalid coins, you would want to be given up and willing to eat your own loss? The answers is definitely NO. We don't want to leave behind any users on our exchange. We need to stick together and fight for this together.

We will wait for FAC team to come with an explanation, solution and compensation plan. If you have any idea or suggestion for us, we are all ears. Please contact us vis Official Support.

Those who blame we react too slow. Let us show you time line. The trades of 5 million coins happened between 2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 and 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113. The first time FAC team contact via our support channel(which we monitor 24/7) is 2014-03-28 01:14:36. It's about 13 hours after the last malicious trade. And he did not even mention about stopping trade or withdraw. He said, I quote:
Can you check if there are any weird deposits in the FAC addresses? Values over a million FAC?

It's believed that the attacker (51% attack) made a 50M transaction for himself and possibly deposited them here and on Poloniex. Mind checking?

Thanks
                        

And we acted right away. We are not monitoring BTT 24/7. FAC team is our registered user and used our support channel to contact us before. Why they did not do the same thing this time? Just PM us on BTT carelessly?

What happens if we open market right now? There will be a huge dump, and the price will crash to the ground. That will hurt every fac investors. We don't want to see FAC hurts our users again before it dies. We still hope FAC team can sort this crisis out.

If FAC team can come up with a plan that can be accepted by all users. We will immediately reopen withdraw and market. But until then, withdraw and market remain closed.


• 让我们把事情理理顺吧。为什么我们不开放提款和交易市场。

简单来说, 我们没有那么多的fac可供提款。为什么呢? 是因为我们交易所被黑, 你们的币被盗吗? 如果是这样的话,我们负全责。我们会去买来所有的fac来赔偿给说有的损失者。但是不是这个情况。 那发生什么事情呢? 是因为FAC的开发团队决定要回滚区块链, 让一些区块不合法。 在我们钱包里面的就意味这将近560万的fac币被认定为不合法的。 这些不合法的币之前都是有超过6个合法确认的。而且大部分已经都和你们辛苦赚来的BTC交易了。 因此当他们不负责任的回滚了区块链的同时, 也意味着那些辛苦赚来的BTC因为买入这些不合法币也随之烟消云散。如果你觉得你不应该得到如此对待, 你应该立即向FAC团队要回那些被他们搞消失的fac或者btc。 因为他们造了这个币,分发了这个币,现在又回滚了。 这些消失的币不是我们偷的或者吃掉了,始作俑者是FAC团队。

那些声称自己没有被这次事件影响的人,请想想,实际上所有人都被这个币给影响了。包括我们。我们都是这个币的受害者。请扪心自问,如果是你们买入了那些被作废的币,你们会想被放弃,然后默默的自认那些损失吗? 答案肯定是不会的。 我们也不想抛下我们平台上的任何人。我们必须要站在一起, 对这次的损失进行抗争。我们一定要求FAC的团队给个合理的说法,解决方法和赔偿。

那些说我们反应慢的人,我们列一个时间线吧。那个砸盘的5百万的交易发生在2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 和 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113之间。FAC官方团队第一次通过我们官方的客服联系我们的时候是2014-03-28 01:14:36。 这个已经是最后一笔恶意交易之后差不多13小时了。而且他甚至没有提到任何关闭交易或者停止提款的事情。 我引用:
你们能查下是否有任何奇怪的存款存入FAC账号吗? 数量超过1百万fac的?
因为我们相信有人采用51%的攻击,存入一笔50M的存款,可能存入这里和Poloniex交易所。介意查看下吗?
谢谢
                        

我们已经立刻做出反应了。我们没有监看BTT论坛24小时。 FAC团队是我们交易所的注册用户, 他们之前就用过我们的客服支持来和我们联系。他们这次为什么不这样做呢? 而只是毫不在意的在BTT上给我们PM?

如果现在我们开放交易市场会发生什么事情吗? 马上就会有巨量的砸盘出现,fac的价格会立刻跌入谷底。 这将损害所有的投资者的利益。我们不愿意看到fac最后以这个损害投资者方式而结束。我们依旧希望FAC团队能解决这次的危机。

如果FAC团队能提出一个被所有用户接受的方案,我们将立即开发提款和交易市场。 但是在那之前, 提款和交易会保持关闭。

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题外话:中国人请看! FAQ:

为什么我们一直说此次问题,99%是官方的阴谋! 我们拥有有全部的证据!


1、为甚NXT-E 坚持说自己没有分叉?
nxt-e有客服支持功能! 用户出现问题就会留言我们就会处理! 从 27日 - 28 日官方所谓的分叉期间  我们平台没有用户抱怨存取款问题,这意味着所有人均和我们保持同步,如果是币分叉了,我们会所有人都在同一个分叉上吗?

2、所谓的米拉通知Huya的事情是怎么一回事?
米拉在QQ上给虎牙的留言:
===============================================================
米拉 2014/3/28 3:51:21
虎牙,刚在nxt-e平台上买到的fac,网上有人说是孤块, 钱包分叉了。 如果抛售的人提款抛了,买的人损失就大了。
===============================================================
首先我们不说凌晨4:00 给中国区客服留言的事情是否是恶意的!我们只说明以下 2:00

1、FAC从未让米拉作为联络官,难道任何一个用户让我们处理任何币的分叉,我们都会相应?我们只会听从官方,以前是这样,以后也是!
2、我们收到(注意是6个确认以后)FAC最后一笔错误存款的时间是:2014/3/28 03:01 ,早于米拉的通知!

3、为什么你们坚持是FAC官方团队策划的此次事件?

1、我们认定之前的存款是有效的,它来自于官方团队的某个地址,原因是:如果黑客篡改交易数据实施51%攻击,它并不能凭空变出巨量存款,而是需要先伪造交易记录,从其他账号转账到自己的账号(注意!没有其他方法) FAC足够分散,最大的账户就是 nxt-e和 polo 但是我们并没有被黑。 那么黑客如何在短时间内(FAC确认较慢)伪造巨量的交易记录而在blockchain 下没有任何痕迹? 因此,巨量存款一定是合法的!

4、FAC官方有动机吗? 以下是我们自己的分析!
1、FAC创始阶段有1500万丢掉了(鬼才信他们不备份钱包)后来声称又找到了。合理的分析是:是团队成员之间产生分裂。
2、由于受到27日媒体坏消息的影响,决定去卖掉,其后又后悔了(卖掉就没有事业,群就要结算)于是谎称是分叉。
3、FAC团队从开始到现在,伴随着谎言成长! NXT-E 的信用大家都看的见,我们的承诺没有一条失言!

5、我们该做什么?
米拉曾经在QQ说交易所是菜市场。没错,我们就是菜市场, FAC团队是小贩,生活中,你们在菜市场买到假货是如何处理的? 菜市场只能以下架的方式惩罚小贩,它损害大家的利益,NXT-E绝不能姑息坏人的牟利! 因为他们已经没有底线,此次事件可以再做N次。

最后想说的:

FAC的团队是中国已经确定无疑:
1、他们的中文网站做的很好!他们的工作时间是中国时间。域名fair-coin.net 是通过万网进行注册的。(查询方式:http://www.net.cn/)
2、他们用大量的马甲在BTT里混淆视听,把舆论引到 NXT-E。
3、NXT-E选择在第一时间通报所有用户是我们的责任。,NXT-E我们绝对不姑息骗子。
4、我(客服)也是中国人,我为中国骗子感到寒心,是你们丢了中国人的脸。
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March 29, 2014, 07:15:18 AM
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Let us make this crystal clear. Why can't we reopen withdraws and market?

•Simple put, we don't have so many fac in our wallet. Why? It's because we got hacked and your fac got stolen? If it's, we take full responsibility. We even buy fac and give every lost fac back to all you guys. But it isn't. So what has happened? It is because that Faircoin dev team decided to roll back block chain and make some fac void/invalid. In our wallet, the amount is about 5.6 million coins which had more than 6 confirmations before. Most of those coins have been traded with hard working btc. So when they irresponsible decided to invalidate those fac, they also invalidate your hard working btc at the same time. If you think you deserve this, you should ask Fac team give those btc back to you, since they invented, distributed and rolled back the block chain. It is not us who steal from you.

For those who claimed that he is not affected by this nonsense, but actually everyone is affected, including us. We are all victims of this faulty coins. Ask yourself, if you were the one who bought those invalid coins, you would want to be given up and willing to eat your own loss? The answers is definitely NO. We don't want to leave behind any users on our exchange. We need to stick together and fight for this together.

We will wait for FAC team to come with an explanation, solution and compensation plan. If you have any idea or suggestion for us, we are all ears. Please contact us vis Official Support.

Those who blame we react too slow. Let us show you time line. The trades of 5 million coins happened between 2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 and 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113. The first time FAC team contact via our support channel(which we monitor 24/7) is 2014-03-28 01:14:36. It's about 13 hours after the last malicious trade. And he did not even mention about stopping trade or withdraw. He said, I quote:
Can you check if there are any weird deposits in the FAC addresses? Values over a million FAC?

It's believed that the attacker (51% attack) made a 50M transaction for himself and possibly deposited them here and on Poloniex. Mind checking?

Thanks
                        

And we acted right away. We are not monitoring BTT 24/7. FAC team is our registered user and used our support channel to contact us before. Why they did not do the same thing this time? Just PM us on BTT carelessly?

What happens if we open market right now? There will be a huge dump, and the price will crash to the ground. That will hurt every fac investors. We don't want to see FAC hurts our users again before it dies. We still hope FAC team can sort this crisis out.

If FAC team can come up with a plan that can be accepted by all users. We will immediately reopen withdraw and market. But until then, withdraw and market remain closed.


• 让我们把事情理理顺吧。为什么我们不开放提款和交易市场。

简单来说, 我们没有那么多的fac可供提款。为什么呢? 是因为我们交易所被黑, 你们的币被盗吗? 如果是这样的话,我们负全责。我们会去买来所有的fac来赔偿给说有的损失者。但是不是这个情况。 那发生什么事情呢? 是因为FAC的开发团队决定要回滚区块链, 让一些区块不合法。 在我们钱包里面的就意味这将近560万的fac币被认定为不合法的。 这些不合法的币之前都是有超过6个合法确认的。而且大部分已经都和你们辛苦赚来的BTC交易了。 因此当他们不负责任的回滚了区块链的同时, 也意味着那些辛苦赚来的BTC因为买入这些不合法币也随之烟消云散。如果你觉得你不应该得到如此对待, 你应该立即向FAC团队要回那些被他们搞消失的fac或者btc。 因为他们造了这个币,分发了这个币,现在又回滚了。 这些消失的币不是我们偷的或者吃掉了,始作俑者是FAC团队。

那些声称自己没有被这次事件影响的人,请想想,实际上所有人都被这个币给影响了。包括我们。我们都是这个币的受害者。请扪心自问,如果是你们买入了那些被作废的币,你们会想被放弃,然后默默的自认那些损失吗? 答案肯定是不会的。 我们也不想抛下我们平台上的任何人。我们必须要站在一起, 对这次的损失进行抗争。我们一定要求FAC的团队给个合理的说法,解决方法和赔偿。

那些说我们反应慢的人,我们列一个时间线吧。那个砸盘的5百万的交易发生在2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 和 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113之间。FAC官方团队第一次通过我们官方的客服联系我们的时候是2014-03-28 01:14:36。 这个已经是最后一笔恶意交易之后差不多13小时了。而且他甚至没有提到任何关闭交易或者停止提款的事情。 我引用:
你们能查下是否有任何奇怪的存款存入FAC账号吗? 数量超过1百万fac的?
因为我们相信有人采用51%的攻击,存入一笔50M的存款,可能存入这里和Poloniex交易所。介意查看下吗?
谢谢
                        

我们已经立刻做出反应了。我们没有监看BTT论坛24小时。 FAC团队是我们交易所的注册用户, 他们之前就用过我们的客服支持来和我们联系。他们这次为什么不这样做呢? 而只是毫不在意的在BTT上给我们PM?

如果现在我们开放交易市场会发生什么事情吗? 马上就会有巨量的砸盘出现,fac的价格会立刻跌入谷底。 这将损害所有的投资者的利益。我们不愿意看到fac最后以这个损害投资者方式而结束。我们依旧希望FAC团队能解决这次的危机。

如果FAC团队能提出一个被所有用户接受的方案,我们将立即开发提款和交易市场。 但是在那之前, 提款和交易会保持关闭。

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
题外话:中国人请看! FAQ:

为什么我们一直说此次问题,99%是官方的阴谋! 我们拥有有全部的证据!


1、为甚NXT-E 坚持说自己没有分叉?
nxt-e有客服支持功能! 用户出现问题就会留言我们就会处理! 从 27日 - 28 日官方所谓的分叉期间  我们平台没有用户抱怨存取款问题,这意味着所有人均和我们保持同步,如果是币分叉了,我们会所有人都在同一个分叉上吗?

2、所谓的米拉通知Huya的事情是怎么一回事?
米拉在QQ上给虎牙的留言:
===============================================================
米拉 2014/3/28 3:51:21
虎牙,刚在nxt-e平台上买到的fac,网上有人说是孤块, 钱包分叉了。 如果抛售的人提款抛了,买的人损失就大了。
===============================================================
首先我们不说凌晨4:00 给中国区客服留言的事情是否是恶意的!我们只说明以下 2:00

1、FAC从未让米拉作为联络官,难道任何一个用户让我们处理任何币的分叉,我们都会相应?我们只会听从官方,以前是这样,以后也是!
2、我们收到(注意是6个确认以后)FAC最后一笔错误存款的时间是:2014/3/28 03:01 ,早于米拉的通知!

3、为什么你们坚持是FAC官方团队策划的此次事件?

1、我们认定之前的存款是有效的,它来自于官方团队的某个地址,原因是:如果黑客篡改交易数据实施51%攻击,它并不能凭空变出巨量存款,而是需要先伪造交易记录,从其他账号转账到自己的账号(注意!没有其他方法) FAC足够分散,最大的账户就是 nxt-e和 polo 但是我们并没有被黑。 那么黑客如何在短时间内(FAC确认较慢)伪造巨量的交易记录而在blockchain 下没有任何痕迹? 因此,巨量存款一定是合法的!

4、FAC官方有动机吗? 以下是我们自己的分析!
1、FAC创始阶段有1500万丢掉了(鬼才信他们不备份钱包)后来声称又找到了。合理的分析是:是团队成员之间产生分裂。
2、由于受到27日媒体坏消息的影响,决定去卖掉,其后又后悔了(卖掉就没有事业,群就要结算)于是谎称是分叉。
3、FAC团队从开始到现在,伴随着谎言成长! NXT-E 的信用大家都看的见,我们的承诺没有一条失言!

5、我们该做什么?
米拉曾经在QQ说交易所是菜市场。没错,我们就是菜市场, FAC团队是小贩,生活中,你们在菜市场买到假货是如何处理的? 菜市场只能以下架的方式惩罚小贩,它损害大家的利益,NXT-E绝不能姑息坏人的牟利! 因为他们已经没有底线,此次事件可以再做N次。

最后想说的:

FAC的团队是中国已经确定无疑:
1、他们的中文网站做的很好!他们的工作时间是中国时间。域名fair-coin.net 是通过万网进行注册的。(查询方式:http://www.net.cn/)
2、他们用大量的马甲在BTT里混淆视听,把舆论引到 NXT-E。
3、NXT-E选择在第一时间通报所有用户是我们的责任。,NXT-E我们绝对不姑息骗子。
4、我(客服)也是中国人,我为中国骗子感到寒心,是你们丢了中国人的脸。
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傻逼东西,你真他妈的丢脸丢到家了,fac的中国的,呵呵,我笑了
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March 29, 2014, 07:19:09 AM
 #4220

Let us make this crystal clear. Why can't we reopen withdraws and market?

•Simple put, we don't have so many fac in our wallet. Why? It's because we got hacked and your fac got stolen? If it's, we take full responsibility. We even buy fac and give every lost fac back to all you guys. But it isn't. So what has happened? It is because that Faircoin dev team decided to roll back block chain and make some fac void/invalid. In our wallet, the amount is about 5.6 million coins which had more than 6 confirmations before. Most of those coins have been traded with hard working btc. So when they irresponsible decided to invalidate those fac, they also invalidate your hard working btc at the same time. If you think you deserve this, you should ask Fac team give those btc back to you, since they invented, distributed and rolled back the block chain. It is not us who steal from you.

For those who claimed that he is not affected by this nonsense, but actually everyone is affected, including us. We are all victims of this faulty coins. Ask yourself, if you were the one who bought those invalid coins, you would want to be given up and willing to eat your own loss? The answers is definitely NO. We don't want to leave behind any users on our exchange. We need to stick together and fight for this together.

We will wait for FAC team to come with an explanation, solution and compensation plan. If you have any idea or suggestion for us, we are all ears. Please contact us vis Official Support.

Those who blame we react too slow. Let us show you time line. The trades of 5 million coins happened between 2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 and 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113. The first time FAC team contact via our support channel(which we monitor 24/7) is 2014-03-28 01:14:36. It's about 13 hours after the last malicious trade. And he did not even mention about stopping trade or withdraw. He said, I quote:
Can you check if there are any weird deposits in the FAC addresses? Values over a million FAC?

It's believed that the attacker (51% attack) made a 50M transaction for himself and possibly deposited them here and on Poloniex. Mind checking?

Thanks
                        

And we acted right away. We are not monitoring BTT 24/7. FAC team is our registered user and used our support channel to contact us before. Why they did not do the same thing this time? Just PM us on BTT carelessly?

What happens if we open market right now? There will be a huge dump, and the price will crash to the ground. That will hurt every fac investors. We don't want to see FAC hurts our users again before it dies. We still hope FAC team can sort this crisis out.

If FAC team can come up with a plan that can be accepted by all users. We will immediately reopen withdraw and market. But until then, withdraw and market remain closed.


• 让我们把事情理理顺吧。为什么我们不开放提款和交易市场。

简单来说, 我们没有那么多的fac可供提款。为什么呢? 是因为我们交易所被黑, 你们的币被盗吗? 如果是这样的话,我们负全责。我们会去买来所有的fac来赔偿给说有的损失者。但是不是这个情况。 那发生什么事情呢? 是因为FAC的开发团队决定要回滚区块链, 让一些区块不合法。 在我们钱包里面的就意味这将近560万的fac币被认定为不合法的。 这些不合法的币之前都是有超过6个合法确认的。而且大部分已经都和你们辛苦赚来的BTC交易了。 因此当他们不负责任的回滚了区块链的同时, 也意味着那些辛苦赚来的BTC因为买入这些不合法币也随之烟消云散。如果你觉得你不应该得到如此对待, 你应该立即向FAC团队要回那些被他们搞消失的fac或者btc。 因为他们造了这个币,分发了这个币,现在又回滚了。 这些消失的币不是我们偷的或者吃掉了,始作俑者是FAC团队。

那些声称自己没有被这次事件影响的人,请想想,实际上所有人都被这个币给影响了。包括我们。我们都是这个币的受害者。请扪心自问,如果是你们买入了那些被作废的币,你们会想被放弃,然后默默的自认那些损失吗? 答案肯定是不会的。 我们也不想抛下我们平台上的任何人。我们必须要站在一起, 对这次的损失进行抗争。我们一定要求FAC的团队给个合理的说法,解决方法和赔偿。

那些说我们反应慢的人,我们列一个时间线吧。那个砸盘的5百万的交易发生在2014-03-27 18:35:53.540 和 2014-03-27 19:32:56.113之间。FAC官方团队第一次通过我们官方的客服联系我们的时候是2014-03-28 01:14:36。 这个已经是最后一笔恶意交易之后差不多13小时了。而且他甚至没有提到任何关闭交易或者停止提款的事情。 我引用:
你们能查下是否有任何奇怪的存款存入FAC账号吗? 数量超过1百万fac的?
因为我们相信有人采用51%的攻击,存入一笔50M的存款,可能存入这里和Poloniex交易所。介意查看下吗?
谢谢
                        

我们已经立刻做出反应了。我们没有监看BTT论坛24小时。 FAC团队是我们交易所的注册用户, 他们之前就用过我们的客服支持来和我们联系。他们这次为什么不这样做呢? 而只是毫不在意的在BTT上给我们PM?

如果现在我们开放交易市场会发生什么事情吗? 马上就会有巨量的砸盘出现,fac的价格会立刻跌入谷底。 这将损害所有的投资者的利益。我们不愿意看到fac最后以这个损害投资者方式而结束。我们依旧希望FAC团队能解决这次的危机。

如果FAC团队能提出一个被所有用户接受的方案,我们将立即开发提款和交易市场。 但是在那之前, 提款和交易会保持关闭。

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题外话:中国人请看! FAQ:

为什么我们一直说此次问题,99%是官方的阴谋! 我们拥有有全部的证据!


1、为甚NXT-E 坚持说自己没有分叉?
nxt-e有客服支持功能! 用户出现问题就会留言我们就会处理! 从 27日 - 28 日官方所谓的分叉期间  我们平台没有用户抱怨存取款问题,这意味着所有人均和我们保持同步,如果是币分叉了,我们会所有人都在同一个分叉上吗?

2、所谓的米拉通知Huya的事情是怎么一回事?
米拉在QQ上给虎牙的留言:
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米拉 2014/3/28 3:51:21
虎牙,刚在nxt-e平台上买到的fac,网上有人说是孤块, 钱包分叉了。 如果抛售的人提款抛了,买的人损失就大了。
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首先我们不说凌晨4:00 给中国区客服留言的事情是否是恶意的!我们只说明以下 2:00

1、FAC从未让米拉作为联络官,难道任何一个用户让我们处理任何币的分叉,我们都会相应?我们只会听从官方,以前是这样,以后也是!
2、我们收到(注意是6个确认以后)FAC最后一笔错误存款的时间是:2014/3/28 03:01 ,早于米拉的通知!

3、为什么你们坚持是FAC官方团队策划的此次事件?

1、我们认定之前的存款是有效的,它来自于官方团队的某个地址,原因是:如果黑客篡改交易数据实施51%攻击,它并不能凭空变出巨量存款,而是需要先伪造交易记录,从其他账号转账到自己的账号(注意!没有其他方法) FAC足够分散,最大的账户就是 nxt-e和 polo 但是我们并没有被黑。 那么黑客如何在短时间内(FAC确认较慢)伪造巨量的交易记录而在blockchain 下没有任何痕迹? 因此,巨量存款一定是合法的!

4、FAC官方有动机吗? 以下是我们自己的分析!
1、FAC创始阶段有1500万丢掉了(鬼才信他们不备份钱包)后来声称又找到了。合理的分析是:是团队成员之间产生分裂。
2、由于受到27日媒体坏消息的影响,决定去卖掉,其后又后悔了(卖掉就没有事业,群就要结算)于是谎称是分叉。
3、FAC团队从开始到现在,伴随着谎言成长! NXT-E 的信用大家都看的见,我们的承诺没有一条失言!

5、我们该做什么?
米拉曾经在QQ说交易所是菜市场。没错,我们就是菜市场, FAC团队是小贩,生活中,你们在菜市场买到假货是如何处理的? 菜市场只能以下架的方式惩罚小贩,它损害大家的利益,NXT-E绝不能姑息坏人的牟利! 因为他们已经没有底线,此次事件可以再做N次。

最后想说的:

FAC的团队是中国已经确定无疑:
1、他们的中文网站做的很好!他们的工作时间是中国时间。域名fair-coin.net 是通过万网进行注册的。(查询方式:http://www.net.cn/)
2、他们用大量的马甲在BTT里混淆视听,把舆论引到 NXT-E。
3、NXT-E选择在第一时间通报所有用户是我们的责任。,NXT-E我们绝对不姑息骗子。
4、我(客服)也是中国人,我为中国骗子感到寒心,是你们丢了中国人的脸。
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A long notice, and even longer in Chinese.

Let's summarize your "old" points:
1. Evil "Chinese" dev played all of us, including users and NXT-E.

2. NXT-E is a victim.

3. NXT-E will cancel the FAC trade, maybe forever.  What about the REAL FAC deposit before? NXT-E don't mention.

4. NXT-E will punish the cheater (the evil Chinese dev!). (but I don't know how actually. Maybe by eating all the REAL FAC and dump them on Poloniex? Likely!)

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All in all , NXT-E owner is a genius with god-like logic.
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