[VMC] Unofficial Virtual Mining Corporation Discussion

[magzy]

not sure what you did wrong but I got my refund in less than 2 weeks time from first contact.

What he did wrong was ask for a refund before his wire transfer had cleared the bank.  This caused his refund request to be rejected as the order had not been paid.  Then, when his wire transfer cleared the bank it was not marked as accepted on his account, most likely due to his refund request above.  Now, it took another month for his payment to be accepted on his account.  Now, his refund request most likely was in limbo due to it being reject above.  Now, when that was cleared up his refund request was on the bottom of the stack.  Now, that is where it is now as we are waiting to start refunds again within the next week or so.  That being said, since he complained the the Missouri Attorney General office, we had to pull his refund from the stack and respond to the Attorney Generals office.  Therefore his refund is the very bottom of the stack.   

You're so full of shit @ken

[magzy]

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not sure what you did wrong but I got my refund in less than 2 weeks time from first contact.

What he did wrong was ask for a refund before his wire transfer had cleared the bank.  This caused his refund request to be rejected as the order had not been paid.  Then, when his wire transfer cleared the bank it was not marked as accepted on his account, most likely due to his refund request above.  Now, it took another month for his payment to be accepted on his account.  Now, his refund request most likely was in limbo due to it being reject above.  Now, when that was cleared up his refund request was on the bottom of the stack.  Now, that is where it is now as we are waiting to start refunds again within the next week or so.  That being said, since he complained the the Missouri Attorney General office, we had to pull his refund from the stack and respond to the Attorney Generals office.  Therefore his refund is the very bottom of the stack.  

Ken, you are surely joking when you say I'm at the bottom of the list for refunds right? Given your website is in tatters there is no actual process to follow. You can just refund it via BTC in 2 minutes ( you have my BTC address)  or you can pluck out my order reference number and write the check?

If you read the Attorney generals letter I posted it specifically states that they are prevented under law to act on behalf of a private Citizen, therefore they could never have contacted you specifically on my behalf. You're just using this as a reason to say I'm at the 'bottom of the list'.

All you're really doing is painting yourself as a man with no integrity whatsoever.

I look forward to my refund Ken

[magzy]

It would appear that this company is insolvent and doesn't have the money to refund pre order customers.

Instead is selling cards that will not ROI to fund the refunds and said writer is at the bottom of the list for complaining to the attorney Generals office that I have been scammed.

The whole setup is a ponzi scheme. Robbing peter to pay paul.

I should just shut up, let him sell more cards to unsuspecting customers so he can get more money to pay me back.

Then again, I would be complicit in fraud

[magzy]

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Lolling at Bargraphics resuming his shilling duties, if there ever is a reckoning, i bet that's where many of your remaining bitcoins went!

And to whatever idiot children are still cheering this endeavour on and on, none of this hardware will mine more bitcoin than you could buy with dollars right now

I wish ken and all the investors the very best in their vision for BTC but to engage in blatant meandering of customers pre-order money is tantamount to stealing (see my email thread with VMC above)

I have refrained from contacting the police over VMC's fraud  thus far.

My bank has advised me to file a police complaint.

Says that if I want to file a complaint with them (and effort to reverse the wire transfer funds from their Bank of America account) I have to have a case number.

Given that I'm not in the US I have to file a complaint with the Australian Federal Police who in turn will contact the FBI (it being a federal matter as opposed to a state one)

There are also some free trade obligations that have to be satisfied as well but haven't looked too far into this.

With a crime reference number in both australia and the US the bank counterparties can then enter a dialoge to recover funds.

Members and shareholders, at which point should I contact the police and register a crime has taken place in order to get my money back from VMC?

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[VinceSamios]

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

[magzy]

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

Just want my promised money back. That's all I ask.

[VinceSamios]

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

Just want my promised money back. That's all I ask.

Sort it out with Ken - you've admitted you cocked up the order initially - you know it was under pre-order terms - so frankly at this stage I think you're being unreasonable.

[magzy]

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

Just want my promised money back. That's all I ask.

Sort it out with Ken - you've admitted you cocked up the order initially - you know it was under pre-order terms - so frankly at this stage I think you're being unreasonable.

Ken says next week he will refund me.(this is the usual story)

Will have to wait and see what happens then.

I didn't cock up the order. There was no one three to process it for a month.  And then I've been ignored for 4 months. It's only by'trolling' that I have got any traction you idiot.

Stop shilling for ken you fool.

[VinceSamios]

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

Just want my promised money back. That's all I ask.

Sort it out with Ken - you've admitted you cocked up the order initially - you know it was under pre-order terms - so frankly at this stage I think you're being unreasonable.

Ken says next week he will refund me.(this is the usual story)

Will have to wait and see what happens then.

I didn't cock up the order. There was no one three to process it for a month.  And then I've been ignored for 4 months. It's only by'trolling' that I have got any traction you idiot.

Stop shilling for ken you fool.

Now I'm a shill too? lol - see when you throw tantrums like this you just lose peoples respect and if you had a message, it just gets lost.

[magzy]

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

Just want my promised money back. That's all I ask.

Sort it out with Ken - you've admitted you cocked up the order initially - you know it was under pre-order terms - so frankly at this stage I think you're being unreasonable.

Ken says next week he will refund me.(this is the usual story)

Will have to wait and see what happens then.

I didn't cock up the order. There was no one three to process it for a month.  And then I've been ignored for 4 months. It's only by'trolling' that I have got any traction you idiot.

Stop shilling for ken you fool.

Now I'm a shill too? lol - see when you throw tantrums like this you just lose peoples respect and if you had a message, it just gets lost.

Calm down. Let's see what happens next week with the promised refund.

[magzy]

It seems the moderators of Active mining
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.0

and VMC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206488.0

systematicaly went through my posts and deleted them all.

I will be updating this thread throughout the day to repost those deleted posts in the interests of transparency and maybe shed some light on information the VMC mods would rather you didn't see.

When my refund is given I will go through my post history and enter a note to say "this debt has been settled"

[magzy]

Ken promises the refunds will start next week.
Let's see him produce the goods.

Msg here if you are in the same boat and want resolution

[magzy]

Is there any info on refunds that weren't transferred to product? I've seen the user magzy on the forum talking about how much of a bad experience was had with VMC. Are there many refund requests? Negative feedback from customers hurts much worse when a company is new and trying to get a footing in the industry.

Ken has promised that the refunds will arrive next week so I'm happy this is going to be fulfilled.


I've been in contact with ken on PM's over the last 3 months after getting nothing from CS and he has replied to most of my requests with the following:

January 30, 2014, 02:25:51 AM
We have a back log in refunds and are processing those as fast as we can.  If you have requested a refund from customer support then it is being worked on.

February 05, 2014, 01:11:34 AM »
That should have been processed, please contact customer service and tell them it has been 7 weeks.

February 05, 2014, 11:04:02 PM »
We had a little problem in December with BTC processing, so all Bitcoin refunds have to be checked, so that may be the hold up.  I will look into why you refund has not be sent.

February 27, 2014, 07:13:29 PM »
Virtual Mining is currently processing and confirming pre-order refund requests.

March 10, 2014, 12:10:40 AM »
Refund to you ASAP.

March 11, 2014, 01:28:16 AM »
I have just hired a new customer service rep.

March 17, 2014, 03:57:11 PM »
Refunds will be processed in 2-4 weeks.

April 01, 2014, 07:29:34 PM »
Me:Ken, Given that refunds will never be processed, I'll take this deal to accept product from you instead of a refund.
Ken: I don't think so, we will just send you a refund.

April 07, 2014, 02:26:10 PM »
We will be issuing you a check soon.

...next week. Lets see if he continues to take the piss.

[magzy]

not sure what you did wrong but I got my refund in less than 2 weeks time from first contact.

What he did wrong was ask for a refund before his wire transfer had cleared the bank.  This caused his refund request to be rejected as the order had not been paid.  Then, when his wire transfer cleared the bank it was not marked as accepted on his account, most likely due to his refund request above.  Now, it took another month for his payment to be accepted on his account.  Now, his refund request most likely was in limbo due to it being reject above.  Now, when that was cleared up his refund request was on the bottom of the stack.  Now, that is where it is now as we are waiting to start refunds again within the next week or so.  That being said, since he complained the the Missouri Attorney General office, we had to pull his refund from the stack and respond to the Attorney Generals office.  Therefore his refund is the very bottom of the stack.   

Just continue your Bullshit Kenneth:

January 30, 2014, 02:25:51 AM
We have a back log in refunds and are processing those as fast as we can.  If you have requested a refund from customer support then it is being worked on.

February 05, 2014, 01:11:34 AM »
That should have been processed, please contact customer service and tell them it has been 7 weeks.

February 05, 2014, 11:04:02 PM »
We had a little problem in December with BTC processing, so all Bitcoin refunds have to be checked, so that may be the hold up.  I will look into why you refund has not be sent.

February 27, 2014, 07:13:29 PM »
Virtual Mining is currently processing and confirming pre-order refund requests.

March 10, 2014, 12:10:40 AM »
Refund to you ASAP.

March 11, 2014, 01:28:16 AM »
I have just hired a new customer service rep.

March 17, 2014, 03:57:11 PM »
Refunds will be processed in 2-4 weeks.

April 01, 2014, 07:29:34 PM »
Me:Ken, Given that refunds will never be processed, I'll take this deal to accept product from you instead of a refund.
Ken: I don't think so, we will just send you a refund.

April 07, 2014, 02:26:10 PM »
We will be issuing you a check soon.

[magzy]

It seems that only one person has confirmed receipt of a prospector board Bargraphics.

anyone else actually got a board from VMC? or is the 40 or so cards sold a complete fabrication?

[magzy]

There's currently 15 outstanding complaints to the office of attorney general regarding refunds (none of which have been resolved)
http://www.consumer.ago.mo.gov/search/complaintSearch.cgi (search for virtual mining)

[magzy]

There's currently 15 outstanding complaints to the office of attorney general regarding refunds (none of which have been resolved)
http://www.consumer.ago.mo.gov/search/complaintSearch.cgi (search for virtual mining)

Interesting. There might be a few duplicates but still that's significant.

The most disgusting part is basically forcing waiting customers to buy the overpriced Prospector, as refunds seem to be hopeless.

The prospector will never ROI either.

The most disgusting part is the BS promises. There's another part of the company that has a mining farm with investors but the investors are not allowed access to their shares. Unbelievable.

[magzy]

Why is VMC taking no action to recover the alleged $250,000 + lost to MT GOX?

This is the class action lawsuit filed.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox (http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox)

Unless the Gox $250k was another lie?

as asking for it in court would be a felony.

[magzy]

Why is VMC taking no action to recover the alleged $250,000 + lost to MT GOX?

This is the class action lawsuit filed.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox (http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox)

Unless the Gox $250k was another lie?

as asking for it in court would be a felony.

This was a mistake as I didn't know the class action law rules. The above suit is just one person.

[magzy]

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@DeadwoodDan If you are going to call someone a scammer then please provide proof

Is refusal to give a refund for the last 4 months proof enough?